Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 06:52 pm, Bsd Neophyte wrote: --- Jim Durham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'pw' has different arguments based on the first argument. If you say 'pw useradd' then -M is not valid. You'll see this if you carefully read the man page. i have, this is why i noted that there was no -M option for the useradd argument under pw apparently, the -M under vanilla useradd indicates that a home directory is not to be created. i was not, and still am not sure if there was a specific argument that allows for this. from the looks if it i guess there isn't. Hmmm... I just looked at my script to create users here and the argument -m is used. Experimenting shows that -m causes a home directory to be created, whereas the lack of -m causes the user to be added but no home directory created. The current man page for 'pw' does not show -m as an arg for 'pw useradd'. This is apparently wrong. It works as described below under the '-m' arg description with 'pw useradd'. -Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-19 10:06:50 -0400: The current man page for 'pw' does not show -m as an arg for 'pw useradd'. it does: SYNOPSIS pw [-V etcdir] useradd [name|uid] [-C config] [-q] [-n name] [-u uid] [-c comment] [-d dir] [-e date] [-p date] [-g group] [-G grouplist] [-m] [-k dir] [-w method] [-s shell] [-o] [-L class] [-h fd] [-N] [-P] [-Y] ... -m This option instructs pw to attempt to create the user's home directory. While primarily useful when adding a new -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.7-RC 4:16PM up 1 day, 23:31, 26 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:25:51PM -0700, Bsd Neophyte wrote: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ That's the Linux useradd command: you can see the man page at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=useraddapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Red+Hat+Linux%2Fi386+7.3format=html The flags mean: -c Samba ODC for MYDOMAIN Real (GCOS) name for account -M Don't create home dir for account, even if default is to do so. -s /bin/falseUse /bin/false as shell -n Add group of same name as user to be default group for account PERSEUS$ Username for account. As I remember, the trailing $ sign is significant for Samba when acting as a domain controller. In the BSD idiom, the equivalent would be something like: pw useradd -n 'PERSEUS$' -c Samba ODC for MYDOMAIN -d /nonexistent \ -s /sbin/nologin except that pw will complain that '$' is not a valid character in a username. Off hand the only way I can think of to get round that is to create the account without the '$' and then use vipw(8) to add it after the fact: # pw useradd -n 'PERSEUS' -c Samba ODC for MYDOMAIN -d /nonexistent \ -s /sbin/nologin # vipw # vi /etc/group # id 'PERSEUS$' uid=1002(PERSEUS$) gid=1002(PERSEUS$) groups=1002(PERSEUS$) Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On 2002-09-17 16:25, Bsd Neophyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm setting up samba on my FreeBSD box. the goal is to make it a PDC. i'm following the directions from Samba Unleased by SAMS. in the instructions, there's mention that each machine needs to have a user account on the server. it gives the following command to setup a machine account: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ There is no useradd command in FreeBSD. You probably want to use pw(8) for adding users, but then it's probably the -m option that you are supposed to use (to create the user's HOME directory too). The -m option of pw(8) has to be combined with a -d /home/dir option though, otherwise pw(8) won't know where to create the user's home directory. i'm assuming i need to use pw useradd. when i try i get an error. Quite probably, yes. In any case, the instructions of the book are apparently written with the Linux way of doing things in mind (I think useradd is a Linuxism, originating in the SysV roots of Linux). Try reading the manpage of pw(8) on FreeBSD and guessing which options you want to use, by reading the text of the Samba book and not the exact command line. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:05:14 +0300 Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002-09-17 16:25, Bsd Neophyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm setting up samba on my FreeBSD box. the goal is to make it a PDC. i'm following the directions from Samba Unleased by SAMS. in the instructions, there's mention that each machine needs to have a user account on the server. it gives the following command to setup a machine account: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ There is no useradd command in FreeBSD. You probably want to use pw(8) for adding users, but then it's probably the -m option that you are supposed to use (to create the user's HOME directory too). The -m option of pw(8) has to be combined with a -d /home/dir option though, otherwise pw(8) won't know where to create the user's home directory. What are the drawbacks of using the `adduser -s` command? Above, you say, There is no useradd command in FreeBSD. Yet you don't mention the similar, but transposed, `adduser` command. I've always used the `adduser -s` command. Should I not be using this utility? Thanks, Nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
(fwd) Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
After exchanging a couple of private messages with [EMAIL PROTECTED] he mentioned that the following post made a couple of things more clear to him/her, and asked me to forward it to the list too. - Giorgos - Forwarded message - Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:42:03 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M? To: Robert Backhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2002-09-18 05:25, Robert Backhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ According to this reference - -c is the comment -M Do not create a home directory -s The shell (Generally, we use /sbin/nologin) -n Do not create a group for the user `PERSEUS$' - appears to be the login name, which I would have to say sounds unusual. That's alright. The usernames of special things in the Windows world end in '$' characters. Silly and misleading, but still a fact. for me, it's a toss-up whether I create this with the adduser(8) script, or `directly' using vipw(8). As I do not need the group and home dir that adduser creates, it's vipw. The -n option seems rather weird, since the user *has* to belong to an existing group. The minimal set of commands to add a new user who will have 'users' as her primary group name, is in FreeBSD: # pw groupadd users # pw useradd -g users keramida -c 'Giorgos Keramidas' \ -d /home/keramida -m -k /usr/share/skel -s /usr/local/bin/bash The first one creates a 'users' group if it doesn't exist. The second one creates a new user, whose username is 'keramida'. The rest of the options are, well, optional and are indicative of how I call pw(8) in my system, but you can tweak those to suit your preference. The manpage of pw(8) should be of great aid in understanding what each option does. An equivalent of your sample command for Samba would be: # pw useradd -g sambausers 'PERSEUS$' -s /bin/false \ -c 'Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' Someone has noted that pw(8) will now allow the use of '$' in usernames, but you can always use: # pw useradd -g sambausers 'PERSEUS' -s /bin/false \ -c 'Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' and then use vipw(8) to change the username to 'PERSEUS$'. And as I use vi for all my editing, that's no problem either. For the viphobic out there, is there an emacspw? Sure. vipw(8) respects EDITOR and VISUAL when found in the user environment. You could, for instance, use something like: # export EDITOR='emacs' # vipw to make vipw(8) fire up Emacs as the editor, instead of vi(1). - Giorgos - End forwarded message - To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On Tuesday 17 September 2002 07:25 pm, Bsd Neophyte wrote: i'm setting up samba on my FreeBSD box. the goal is to make it a PDC. i'm following the directions from Samba Unleased by SAMS. in the instructions, there's mention that each machine needs to have a user account on the server. it gives the following command to setup a machine account: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ now, I don't know what the -M stands for when you add a user. i'm assuming i need to use pw useradd. when i try i get an error. the man page for pw shows a -M, but it's only used for the groupadd option. i would like to know what i should use instead of the -M. any and all help will be appreciated. 'pw' has different arguments based on the first argument. If you say 'pw useradd' then -M is not valid. You'll see this if you carefully read the man page. What I think you want is -g groupname . IE; for group 'staff, it would be 'pw useradd username -g staff -y /dev/null -s /bin/false' . I'm not sure this works right with machine accounts, where the last character of the user name is '$'. I've never tried it. I just run 'vipw' and add the line. username$:I:4055:3000::0:0:Machine Foobo:/dev/null:/bin/false Then you run 'smbpasswd -a -m username' . -jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
On 2002-09-18 08:01, Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:05:14 +0300
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no useradd command in FreeBSD. You probably want to use
pw(8) for adding users, but then it's probably the -m option that you
are supposed to use (to create the user's HOME directory too).
What are the drawbacks of using the `adduser -s` command? Above, you
say, There is no useradd command in FreeBSD. Yet you don't mention
the similar, but transposed, `adduser` command. I've always used the
`adduser -s` command. Should I not be using this utility?
I like commands that can be scripted, without requiring any user
intervention from the terminal. So far, I've used pw(8) with great
results, but this is clearly a matter of preference.
--
Giorgos Keramidas % keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org}
FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p20 #14: Tue Sep 17 15:23:24 EEST 2002
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Re: what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
--- Jim Durham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'pw' has different arguments based on the first argument. If you say 'pw useradd' then -M is not valid. You'll see this if you carefully read the man page. i have, this is why i noted that there was no -M option for the useradd argument under pw apparently, the -M under vanilla useradd indicates that a home directory is not to be created. i was not, and still am not sure if there was a specific argument that allows for this. from the looks if it i guess there isn't. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
what is the freebsd version for useradd -M?
i'm setting up samba on my FreeBSD box. the goal is to make it a PDC. i'm following the directions from Samba Unleased by SAMS. in the instructions, there's mention that each machine needs to have a user account on the server. it gives the following command to setup a machine account: useradd -c Samba ODC fir MYDOMAIN' -M -s /bin/false -n PERSEUS$ now, I don't know what the -M stands for when you add a user. i'm assuming i need to use pw useradd. when i try i get an error. the man page for pw shows a -M, but it's only used for the groupadd option. i would like to know what i should use instead of the -M. any and all help will be appreciated. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
