Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-19 Thread Xian
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 10:19, Xian wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
   I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work
   locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with
   XFree86.
  
   I start X with just xterm for testing:
  
startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
  
   and then type
  
ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
 
  Hello Xian,
 
  sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
  problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?
 
   in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
  
   Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
   window managers work locally.
  
   Any help much appreciated.
   --
   /Xian
 
  Good luck,
  -cpghost.

 -Y does work on my main machine to test it

  startx /usr/bin/ssh -Y anothe.machine twm -- :1

 I will mostly be using this from college as I take a FreeSBIE CD with me
 and us that instead of whatever M$ windowz happens to be on the machine.
 I'll have a good look into what -Y really dose today.

 Thanks :D

I'm not quite sure what -Y does after reading the ssh man page. I see that it 
give the X client more access to your server in some way but not what way. I 
am running the X server from a FreeSBIE machine, and connecting to my home 
machine to run KDE. Is this secure enough?

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-19 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:43:27 +
Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all
 work locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem
 with XFree86.
 
 I start X with just xterm for testing:
 
  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
 
 and then type
 
  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
 
 in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
 
 Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
 window managers work locally.
 
 Any help much appreciated.

Not sure of what it would be, but the freebsd x11 mailing list would
probally be useful. Also trying a xorg specific list may be useful.

Best of luck.
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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-18 Thread Xian
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
  I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work
  locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with
  XFree86.
 
  I start X with just xterm for testing:
 
   startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
 
  and then type
 
   ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

 Hello Xian,

 sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
 problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

  in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
 
  Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
  window managers work locally.
 
  Any help much appreciated.
  --
  /Xian

 Good luck,
 -cpghost.

-Y does work on my main machine to test it

 startx /usr/bin/ssh -Y anothe.machine twm -- :1

I will mostly be using this from college as I take a FreeSBIE CD with me and 
us that instead of whatever M$ windowz happens to be on the machine. I'll 
have a good look into what -Y really dose today.

Thanks :D

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A snooze button is a poor substitute for no alarm clock at all
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window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Xian
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:

 startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

and then type

 ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.

Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
-- 
/Xian

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Xian wrote:
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:
startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
and then type
ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
 




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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
 I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
 locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
 
 I start X with just xterm for testing:
 
  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
 
 and then type
 
  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

Hello Xian,

sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

 in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
 
 Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
 managers work locally.
 
 Any help much appreciated.
 -- 
 /Xian

Good luck,
-cpghost.

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
 I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
 locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
 
 I start X with just xterm for testing:
 
  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
 
 and then type
 
  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

Hello Xian,

sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

Several conditions have to be met to forward X11 using ssh/openssh:

  1.  The sshd_config file on the machine you're connecting to has to have
  ``X11Forwarding yes'' set.

  2.  On the client machine, the ssh_config file needs ``ForwardX11 yes''
  or the ssh command must use the ``-X'' option.

  3.  On newer versions of openssh, the client ssh_config must have
  ``ForwardX11Trusted yes''.

Bill
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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
Kris Maglione wrote:
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Oh, you're trying to run twm. I guess that's not what's running, then.


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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello Xian,

 sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
 problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

If you use this in a multiuser environment, please also read about the 
securtity considerations of options ForwardX11 and ForwardX11Trusted in 
'man 5 ssh_config' . 

Cheers,
ch

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