x11-wm/olvwm
Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? Best regards, Fred This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
fr...@getnet.com wrote: Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? Better ask on po...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, fr...@getnet.com wrote: Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well. Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see it go from the FreeBSD ports collection. % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile is no more available I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available distfile, which fortunately is still with us: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z There are also two patches there: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO. Best regards, Fred Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, fr...@getnet.com wrote: Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well. Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see it go from the FreeBSD ports collection. % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile is no more available I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available distfile, which fortunately is still with us: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z There are also two patches there: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO. They'll be in what what people call the Attic I suppose. man cvs tells how to extract to particular dates. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 07:09:11PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO. I completely agree. That's happened to me before, I spent so much time getting things set up the way I like it for it all to be in vain. We're only users of the distribution afterall. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
On 24 May 2011 18:09, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, fr...@getnet.com wrote: Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well. Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see it go from the FreeBSD ports collection. % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile is no more available I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available distfile, which fortunately is still with us: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z There are also two patches there: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO. I don't understand your comment on silence -- they've been deprecated for a while now. I'll take a look at resurrecting and hosting it tomorrow, if people are interested. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: x11-wm/olvwm
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 May 2011 18:09, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, fr...@getnet.com wrote: Hello, I have updated ports and when reinstalling I found x11-wm/olvwm which I was using was gone from the ports tree. Why? I noticed that too, and was bit by that change as well. Since I love the olvwm look and feel, I'm sad to see it go from the FreeBSD ports collection. % grep olvwm /usr/ports/MOVED x11-wm/olvwm||2011-05-01|Has expired: Upstream disapear and distfile is no more available I think we could resurrect this port, using the last available distfile, which fortunately is still with us: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.tar.Z There are also two patches there: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch01.Z ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/olvwm4.Patch02.Z Unfortunately, I don't know where the old port files have gone. We *REALLY* should consider moving dead ports to a separate subdirectory hierarchy (such as /usr/ports/.deadports or some such), so people interested in resurrecting old ports could have a look. Just letting then disappear silently is rude und unnecessary, but that's just IMHO. I don't understand your comment on silence -- they've been deprecated for a while now. I'll take a look at resurrecting and hosting it tomorrow, if people are interested. I grabbed the source and took a look at it. At the end of the README there is the following line: Bugs may be reported to Scott Oaks (scott.o...@east.sun.com), who will try to fix bugs whenever he can. Looks to be the old maintainer from the Sun days. The tarball that I grabbed doesn't have the LEGAL_NOTICE file, so it's not clear to me which Sun license it is under. It seems that the port depends on the olgx library which also seems to be deprecated. On xwinman.org, this wm's development activity is listed as LOW. So, all of this leads me to point out the following: FOSS is a volunteer thing. If a maintainer evaporates and the port gets old, it is taken out of the ports tree. It's not gone, you can still get everything if you pull the old ports tree from a specific data as was mentioned in another reply. But, if someone writes FOSS, they don't _have_ to maintain it. If you really like it, and it has been abandoned, by all means, pick it up, dust it off, and start updating the code. As a user of FOSS, you are not entitled to updates from the maintainers. You are, however, a beneficiary of the maintainer's volunteering their time and effort to provide you with updates. That aside. If you don't have time to maintain it, then look for an alternative. I would suggest looking at xwinman.org and see if there is another wm that has a High development activity that has a similar look and feel to the one that you want. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
