Re: Problems With xorg 7.3 After A Port Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Aryeh Friedman
nVidia's driver does not honor -ignoreABI On 9/15/07, P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Some drivers (3rd party) have not updated either (nVidia's comes to mind) On some gentoo linux mailing list I have found this # startx -- -ignoreABI

Re: Problems With xorg 7.3 After A Port Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread P.U.Kruppa
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: nVidia's driver does not honor -ignoreABI Sorry. At least it honored my S3Virge. Uli. On 9/15/07, P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Some drivers (3rd party) have not updated either (nVidia's comes

Re: Problems With xorg 7.3 After A Port Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I was able to do a straight portupgrade with the test patch On 9/15/07, Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aryeh Friedman wrote: One solution then until it is fixed is to use the test version of the port (look in the freebsd-x11 archives [monday I think]) and there is a URL for

Re: Problems With xorg 7.3 After A Port Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Aryeh Friedman
it sure doesn't do it on my geForce 8400 gs. On 9/15/07, P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Aryeh Friedman wrote: nVidia's driver does not honor -ignoreABI Sorry. At least it honored my S3Virge. Uli. On 9/15/07, P.U.Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat,

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:17:58AM +, Pollywog wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007 01:01:03 Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my [Backspace keys] are not interpretered correctly. Instead of erasing characters and backing up

Re: Problems With xorg 7.3 After A Port Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Francois Ranchin
According to Aryeh Friedman : it sure doesn't do it on my geForce 8400 gs. it does well with a 8500 GT. You have to change the file /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers (in fact /usr/local/share/examples/xdm/Xservers due to an other problem) to have : :0 local /usr/local/bin/X -br -ignoreABI :0

RE: /dev/random question

2007-09-15 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
/dev/urandom is a hack. In a perfect world, the /dev/random device would be able to return a string of random numbers as fast as you wanted, and there would not have been a need for /dev/urandom Since FreeBSD tries to be close to perfect ;-) it uses a better random driver that can produce

What to use for conio?

2007-09-15 Thread Lars Eighner
What I really want to do: capture keypresses (including function keys) from a (virtual) terminal without their echoing or without having to enter a new line (i.e. hit return). Why I do not want to use (n)curses: to use keypad in ncurses, I have to initscr() and ncurses will then blank the

Re: What to use for conio?

2007-09-15 Thread cpghost
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:11:54 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I really want to do: capture keypresses (including function keys) from a (virtual) terminal without their echoing or without having to enter a new line (i.e. hit return). Why I do not want to use (n)curses:

Re: mount_ntfs as normal user

2007-09-15 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
On Friday 14 of September 2007 22:02:06 Mel wrote: The ls didn't list a setuid (you would see -r-sr-x-r-x), I would expect it to for this behavior to occur. I have no idea how this is possible and would see it as security risk if you're not the only user of the machine. Yes, of course. Ok.

Re: mount_ntfs as normal user

2007-09-15 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
Maybe somebody else have this same behavior as I have with ntfs? I install FreeBSD 6.2 on my second machine and then I have this same problem with ntfs. This was a clean install, so I suppose that problem with ntfs is, or ... I dont known what is wrong. I don't known it is important, but on

Re: http://www.freebsd.org site unreachable

2007-09-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
There is a kind of redundancy. The FreeBSD website is mirrored in many countries. I hardly have problems with www.nl.freebsd.org. I wonder why so many people still use the main site, while there are a lot of mirror sites. i don't know :) ___

Re: http://www.freebsd.org site unreachable

2007-09-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I've confirmed (through a friend) in England it's not accessible either. I'm surprised they wouldn't have redundancies to prevent this from happening. Round robin DNS with collocation at least. There is a kind of redundancy. The FreeBSD website is mirrored in many countries. I hardly have

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my [Backspace keys] are not interpretered correctly. Instead of erasing characters and backing up one byte and clearing that character my

Re: What to use for conio?

2007-09-15 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:11:54AM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: What I really want to do: capture keypresses (including function keys) from a (virtual) terminal without their echoing or without having to enter a new line (i.e. hit return). man newterm man filter -- Thomas E. Dickey

Concurrency limit warning in Postfix leads to server lock

2007-09-15 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
I have dilemma with one of our 5.4 server mail gateways. About 2-3 times a month now the server SMTP and related services stop responding. I find myself not able to login, just sits there after entering user name. I have to reset the server and the only thing I can find with an 'egrep

Re: Concurrency limit warning in Postfix leads to server lock

2007-09-15 Thread Bill Moran
Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have dilemma with one of our 5.4 server mail gateways. About 2-3 times a month now the server SMTP and related services stop responding. I find myself not able to login, just sits there after entering user name. I have to reset the server and the

xfce4/gnome + compiz - slow launch.

2007-09-15 Thread Dmitry
After installing compiz-fusion, xfce4 or gnome is launching very slow. Looks like some timeout, xfdesktop is quite slow. Even when I don't start compiz, this happens, but I don't start xfwm4 or metacity, so there are no conflicts between WMs. When I logout and save current sessions with pidgin,

linux-firefox dies after xorg update

2007-09-15 Thread beni
Hi, After updating xorg to 7.3 (and adding a new ServerFlags section to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to put ignoreABI to on to get kdm back), now my linux-firefox does not start any more. It dies with the following error : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/beni]$ linux-firefox /home/beni/.gtkrc-2.0:12:

Re: nVidia driver with Xorg 7.3?

2007-09-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Scott I. Remick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone tried the current nVidia-driver with the new X.org 7.3? I heard that there was a general (non-FreeBSD-specific) incompatibility, but

Re: nVidia driver with Xorg 7.3?

2007-09-15 Thread beni
On Saturday 15 September 2007 14:56:17 Lowell Gilbert wrote: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Florent Thoumie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Scott I. Remick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone tried the current nVidia-driver with the new X.org 7.3? I heard that

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On 9/14/07, Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm about to purchase a new system for myself. It will dual-boot Windows XP, which will be primarily used for gaming, and FreeBSD 7.0 for everything else. I wanted to ask if

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Garrett Cooper
Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my [Backspace keys] are not interpretered correctly. Instead of erasing characters and backing up one byte and clearing that

Re: dsniff installation failure

2007-09-15 Thread Alain G. Fabry
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 08:32:53PM +0200, Mel wrote: On Friday 14 September 2007 15:37:29 Alain G. Fabry wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install dsniff and get the following error message during install. Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, just updated the ports collection What can I do to get dsniff

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
Maxim Khitrov wrote: On 9/14/07, Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm about to purchase a new system for myself. It will dual-boot Windows XP, which will be primarily used for gaming, and FreeBSD 7.0 for everything else. I

Re: linux-firefox dies after xorg update

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 02:51:08PM +, beni wrote: Hi, After updating xorg to 7.3 (and adding a new ServerFlags section to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to put ignoreABI to on to get kdm back), now my linux-firefox does not start any more. It dies with the following error : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: mount_ntfs as normal user

2007-09-15 Thread Andriy Babiy
Maybe somebody else have this same behavior as I have with ntfs? I install FreeBSD 6.2 on my second machine and then I have this same problem with ntfs. This was a clean install, so I suppose that problem with ntfs is, or ... I dont known what is wrong. I don't known it is

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Garrett Cooper
Kris Kennaway wrote: Maxim Khitrov wrote: On 9/14/07, Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm about to purchase a new system for myself. It will dual-boot Windows XP, which will be primarily used for gaming, and FreeBSD 7.0 for

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my [Backspace keys] are not interpretered correctly. Instead of

ntpd time server

2007-09-15 Thread jhall
Is it possible to use ntpd as a client as well as a server? I have my firewall setup to get updates from the Internet which it does without any problem. However, I am not seeing any clients syncrhonizing with the firewall. The firewall ntp.conf files contains the following. server

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Mel
On Saturday 15 September 2007 22:28:22 Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my [Backspace

Re: ntpd time server

2007-09-15 Thread David Kelly
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:46:09PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to use ntpd as a client as well as a server? Of course. Your server is a client of its own ntpd. I have my firewall setup to get updates from the Internet which it does without any problem. However, I am not

How to add rule with pfctl...

2007-09-15 Thread Agus
Hi list, I am trying to figure out how to add a firewall rule with pfctl... This is what i'm trying to do... I've got SEC that matches certain pattern and takes the IP from that and want to trigger a firewall rule to block that IP Then after a couple of hours SEC will trigger the command to

Xorg 7.3 Works Fine Now - But .. A Few More Questions

2007-09-15 Thread Tim Daneliuk
The patches we've been waiting for apparently made the ports tree and we have joy on Xorg 7.3. I do have a couple of questions about stuff that was happening prior to this (and still is). When I to a portupgrade, I always see some grumbling about xorg-macros no longer being in he ports tree.

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Josh Carroll
In general, if you are running a multi-process or multi-threaded workload, FreeBSD 7 will be able to make good use of 8 CPU cores. Over the past 2 years we have done extensive benchmarking and optimizations that have resulted in *huge* performance improvements on many common workloads on

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0200, Mel wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007 22:28:22 Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
Josh Carroll wrote: In general, if you are running a multi-process or multi-threaded workload, FreeBSD 7 will be able to make good use of 8 CPU cores. Over the past 2 years we have done extensive benchmarking and optimizations that have resulted in *huge* performance improvements on many common

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Josh Carroll
Yes, 4BSD is still the default, although you definitely want to use ULE for performance reasons (NB: only on 7, dont use ULE on 6). I don't know whether the release engineers plan to change that default, but I will check. Great, thanks for the info. Good to know, I'll be sure to use ULE when

Re: How to add rule with pfctl...

2007-09-15 Thread Mel
On Saturday 15 September 2007 23:18:17 Agus wrote: I am trying to figure out how to add a firewall rule with pfctl... This is what i'm trying to do... I've got SEC that matches certain pattern and takes the IP from that and want to trigger a firewall rule to block that IP Then after a

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
Josh Carroll wrote: Yes, 4BSD is still the default, although you definitely want to use ULE for performance reasons (NB: only on 7, dont use ULE on 6). I don't know whether the release engineers plan to change that default, but I will check. Great, thanks for the info. Good to know, I'll be

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Mel
On Saturday 15 September 2007 23:24:54 Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0200, Mel wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007 22:28:22 Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Josh Carroll
That's good to know. You should be using libthr for threaded performance though :) That benchmark is probably almost all userland though, so performance may not suffer much from libpthread. Oh I wasn't sure if libthr was the preferred thread library for 6.2 also (I'd heard that was the case

Xorg errs after updating ports

2007-09-15 Thread E. J. Cerejo
I'm running FBSD 6.stable and I just updated my ports using portupgrade and everything went fine. Most of the xorg ports got updated but now I get this error everytime I try to startx: Release Date: 5 September 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE

Problem Building xorg-dmx After The 7.3 Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Seen during a portsupgrade (does not appear to affect my configuration, but noted here for benefit of the maintainers if they've not yet seen this): cc -DHAVE_DMX_CONFIG_H -DHAVE_DIX_CONFIG_H -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs

Re: Building a new workstation - dual or quad-core CPU for FreeBSD 7?

2007-09-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
Josh Carroll wrote: That's good to know. You should be using libthr for threaded performance though :) That benchmark is probably almost all userland though, so performance may not suffer much from libpthread. Oh I wasn't sure if libthr was the preferred thread library for 6.2 also (I'd

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Keladis
On 9/16/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes when I ssh from a remote server and edit a file with vi, my

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:28:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Trying to use stty failed... . What terminal emulator are you using? It may be that, as was the case with me when I was using aterm, I needed to use stty *and* needed to change a configuration in the aterm makefile. It's

Re: Xorg 7.3 Works Fine Now - But .. A Few More Questions

2007-09-15 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Did you bumb the driver versions? as far as this goes this seems to be almost universal interms of everyone is stuck with vesa On 9/15/07, Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patches we've been waiting for apparently made the ports tree and we have joy on Xorg 7.3. I do have a couple

ATI 9200SE and TV-out

2007-09-15 Thread nollan
Hi List! I've been trying to configure my ATI 9200SE Card for tv-out, I don't seem to get it to work. The problem is that somehow the driver (tried vesa, ati and radeon drivers) can't recognise the second output. Is there anyway I can modify the source for these drivers to recognize the

Re: /dev/random question

2007-09-15 Thread RW
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:44:10 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since FreeBSD tries to be close to perfect ;-) it uses a better random driver that can produce random numbers as fast as you want them. The symlink is there only as a crutch for older UNIX code that was written when

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:12:04PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 01:28:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Trying to use stty failed... . What terminal emulator are you using? It may be that, as was the case with me when I was using aterm, I needed to use stty *and*

Re: remote [ssh] Backspace] key gives me ^?

2007-09-15 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 07:46:53AM +1000, Chris Keladis wrote: On 9/16/07, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:58:52AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 06:01:03PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Sometimes

The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-08-26 - 2007-09-15

2007-09-15 Thread Dan Langille
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the