Re: perl, rrdtool issue

2012-11-15 Thread Olivier Nicole
Actually I did portupgrade -rf, and still have the issue with that bsdpan-RRDp-0.99.0. And because of that my munin isn't working, I'm getting email like: Can't locate Munin/Common/Defaults.pm in @INC (@INC contains: It seems that you need to reinstall Munin, not RRDtool. And from the error

Re: 'device' representation in the filesystem questions

2012-11-15 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/14/12 23:38, Robert Bonomi wrote: it appears that FreeBSD, at least 8.0 and later: a) no longer uses 'raw' devices for anything b) no longer uses 'block' devices for anything c) randomly assigns device 'major' numbers d) doesn't use device 'minor' numbers for anything.

Light word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-15 Thread Leslie Jensen
Hello I mainly use LibreOffice and it works for me. My problem now is that the build time for LibreOffice on a little older hardware is very long. Is there an alternative to writer that does not take that long to build? If I can get an alternative to Calc also it's a plus but not a big

Re: Light word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-15 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:06:56 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hello I mainly use LibreOffice and it works for me. My problem now is that the build time for LibreOffice on a little older hardware is very long. Why not use the binary install method (pkg_add -r)? The default options should

Re: Light word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-15 Thread Leslie Jensen
Polytropon skrev 2012-11-15 10:12: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:06:56 +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hello I mainly use LibreOffice and it works for me. My problem now is that the build time for LibreOffice on a little older hardware is very long. Why not use the binary install method (pkg_add

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Thomas Mueller
I think that's pretty much standard behaviour. The solution appears to be to wake it up with the following incantation: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/da0 count=0 That's what works here. See the thread starting with http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-February/212109.html

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 15 November 2012 02:06:02 Warren Block wrote: true /dev/da0 is a little shorter and safer.  The search keywords for this are GEOM retaste or retasting. Thanks Warren. I wasn't aware of that option, it's certainly much neater and less prone to typing errors. -- Mike Clarke

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:43:42 +, Mike Clarke wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2012 02:06:02 Warren Block wrote: true /dev/da0 is a little shorter and safer.  The search keywords for this are GEOM retaste or retasting. Thanks Warren. I wasn't aware of that option, it's certainly

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211142231420.58...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: ... Given these facts, I am more than a little surpised to learn (or rather just to realize) that the good old traditional fdisk and bsdlabel

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211142250370.58...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I'm looking at the examples section of the gpart(8) man page. May I assume that if I just want to merely ``try out'' GPT... you know... taking

Shut-down when access to NFS share is gone

2012-11-15 Thread Leslie Jensen
I managed to shut down a machine with an NFS share before the connected client was shut down. Now this client won't shut down. It stands at : All buffers synced. I suspect it's waiting for the NFS server in order to disconnect. Is there any time-out I must wait for? Will it help to bring

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Chris Whitehouse
In messagealpine.bsf.2.00.1211142250370.58...@wonkity.com, In general, you create a partition scheme first. This can be MBR, GPT, or others. (But use GPT.) Unless you want to dual boot with WinXP in which case use MBR still? Chris ___

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/15/12 12:41, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211142250370.58...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I'm looking at the examples section of the gpart(8) man page. May I assume that if I just want to

Re: high performance server design approach

2012-11-15 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 08:23:38AM -0200, Friedrich Locke wrote: 0) To have a single process accepting incoming connection on port 80 and send the new socket fd to one of the http server in a round-roubin manner, DJB's publicfile does something rather similar. http://cr.yp.to/publicfile.html

Re: Shut-down when access to NFS share is gone

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: I managed to shut down a machine with an NFS share before the connected client was shut down. Now this client won't shut down. It stands at : All buffers synced. I suspect it's waiting for the NFS server in order to

Re: Shut-down when access to NFS share is gone

2012-11-15 Thread Leslie Jensen
Thank you :-) I'll study it closer. /Leslie 2012-11-15 15:15, Adam Vande More skrev: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: I managed to shut down a machine with an NFS share before the connected client was shut down. Now this client won't shut down. It

Re: Light word processor plus the occasional spreadsheet

2012-11-15 Thread Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:06:56AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: Is there an alternative to writer that does not take that long to build? Maybe wordgrinder? http://wordgrinder.sourceforge.net/ Never tried it on FreeBSD (mostly because I refuse to install Lua) but it never takes long to build if

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Thomas Mueller wrote: I think that's pretty much standard behaviour. The solution appears to be to wake it up with the following incantation: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/da0 count=0 That's what works here. See the thread starting with

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Chris Whitehouse wrote: In messagealpine.bsf.2.00.1211142250370.58...@wonkity.com, In general, you create a partition scheme first. This can be MBR, GPT, or others. (But use GPT.) Unless you want to dual boot with WinXP in which case use MBR still? Yes. The same

One disk shown as two in gsmartcontrol

2012-11-15 Thread Leslie Jensen
I'm configuring smartd on a newly installed system, 9.1-RC3 The message below is in my /var/log/messages Nov 15 14:39:49 blj01 kernel: ada0: Maxtor 6B300S0 BANC1G10 ATA-7 SATA 1.x dev ice Nov 15 14:39:49 blj01 kernel: ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA, UDMA5, PIO 8192 bytes) Nov 15

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In your tutorial document, you say: Create a boot partition to hold the loader, size of 512K. How big is that thing (gpart boot loader), actually? Half a megabyte seems rather a bit large-ish, certainly relative to ye olde MBR loader, which

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211142231420.58...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: ... Given these facts, I am more than a little surpised to learn (or rather just to realize)

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: Is there a recommended way to automate the GEOM re-tasting so SD cards can be accessed without further interaction (by simply using the correct mount command)? Not AFAIK. Could depend on hardware also; some card readers might not need it.

Re: One disk shown as two in gsmartcontrol

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote: I'm configuring smartd on a newly installed system, 9.1-RC3 The message below is in my /var/log/messages Nov 15 14:39:49 blj01 kernel: ada0: Maxtor 6B300S0 BANC1G10 ATA-7 SATA 1.x dev ice Nov 15 14:39:49 blj01 kernel: ada0: 150.000MB/s transfers

Re: 9.1 permissions in the / directory

2012-11-15 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:12:59PM -0500, Joseph Mays wrote: Have a recently set up 9.1 RC1 system. Someone (not me, just sayin') did a chmod 600 in the / directory. Needless to say this caused numerous problems. I tried to change them back as best I could by comparing them to an older

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Mike Clarke wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2012 19:43:30 Fernando Apesteguía wrote: If I boot the system and plug the SD card in, the green led doesn't even switch on and there is only a /dev/da0

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, November 15, 2012 a las 05:57:45PM +0100, Fernando Apesteguía escribió: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Mike Clarke wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2012 19:43:30 Fernando Apesteguía wrote: If I boot the

9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-15 Thread Gary Aitken
Trying to rebuild ports, I'm consistently getting the following: ahcich1 Timeout on slot 13 port 0 ^ slot varies g_vfs_done() ada0p6 [WRITE(offset=38838571008 length=4096)]error=6 /usr got error 6 while accessing filesyustem cpuid=0 panic:

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.orgwrote: Error 6 is ENXIO, device not configured; not sure exactly what that means. This machine has: 16G mem 0.5G swap 2G /tmp 4G /var Is any of that likely to be related to the problem? Given an addr in

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-15 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:30:43 -0600 Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you have bad hardware. Drive, cable, controller etc. Probably wouldn't hurt to do a fsck either. *After* identifying and fixing the hardware problem, otherwise you may make things worse. --

ale0: could not disable Tx/Rx MAC(0x00000004)!

2012-11-15 Thread Julien Cigar
Hello, I got the following problem today: 66nneewwnnffss sseerrvveerr 119922..116688..00..225544:://hhoommee//mmaaggee:: nnoto t rreespsopnonddiinngg newnfs server 192.168.0.254:/home/mage: not responding ale0: could not disable Tx/Rx MAC(0x0004)! ale0: link state changed to DOWN

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message 50a4f2c8.5040...@qeng-ho.org, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: On 11/15/12 12:41, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: -b is the beginning block of a partition. 34 is a magic value, the size of a standard GPT partition table. It probably wouldn't have hurt anything to mention that

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211150828040.62...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In your tutorial document, you say: Create a boot partition to hold the loader, size of 512K. How big is that thing (gpart boot loader),

Re: Advanced Format Drive ? GPT ?

2012-11-15 Thread Al Plant
Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I'm looking at the examples section of the gpart(8) man page. May I assume that if I just want to merely ``try out'' GPT... you know... taking it out on the road for a first time test run... that I can just do the first five

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211150844350.62...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: Well, given that newfs has been ``fixed'' so that its defaults will Do The Right Thing with the latest generation of (4KB block) disks, I for one

WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hello, from a freshly installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I did a freebsd-update to bring it to the latest patch level. After: # freebsd-update fetch I got this message: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net wrote: Where can I find more information on the planned lifecycles of the current and upcoming releases? Are there any? http://www.freebsd.org/security/ Scroll down about halfway. 9.0 is a regular release, EOL is January

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.netwrote: Hello, from a freshly installed FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE I did a freebsd-update to bring it to the latest patch level. After: # freebsd-update fetch I got this message: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211150828040.62...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In your tutorial document, you say: Create a boot partition to hold the loader, size of

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hi, On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:35:52 -0800 Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/security/ Scroll down about halfway. 9.0 is a regular release, EOL is January 31, 2013. Alternate releases are extended releases, so 9.1 will have a 2 year support span. Thanks for

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1211151456450.66...@wonkity.com, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: It wouldn't hurt to add the above info to your tutorial page. The problem with that sort of detail is that too much of it obscures the point, which in this case is just trying to show the right

Re: 9.0 crash, ssd or filesystem problem?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: Trying to rebuild ports, I'm consistently getting the following: ahcich1 Timeout on slot 13 port 0 ^ slot varies g_vfs_done() ada0p6 [WRITE(offset=38838571008 length=4096)]error=6 That seems familiar, maybe others have

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Warren, In the EXAMPLES section of the gpart(8) man page, they do this: /sbin/gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr ad0 In your document however, you first create an explicit (special) partition named gpboot and then you do this instead: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 da0

Re: Advanced Format Drive ? GPT ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Al Plant wrote: I looked over the GPT sample and have a question. In the fstab entries, something that uses msdosfs, (thumb drive maybe). Can you enter it directly in the fstab after the basic partitions and other /dev have been entered in the initial setup? Short

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Doug Hardie
On 15 November 2012, at 14:46, Matthias Petermann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:35:52 -0800 Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/security/ Scroll down about halfway. 9.0 is a regular release, EOL is January 31, 2013. Alternate releases are

Re: Texlive

2012-11-15 Thread Aldis Berjoza
15.11.2012, 23:45, Belgacem Jellali belgacem.jell...@gmail.com: Salut J'aime beaucoup FreeBSD, mais je ne peux pas l'utiliser au quotidien car j'ai besoin de TexLive2012 et les ports FreeBSD ne le fournissent pas. Y-a-t'il un moyen pour installer TexLive2012? si oui, je ne supprimerai

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:46:53 +0100 Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net wrote: Thanks for the clearification. One technical thing: is it possible, to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0 to 9.1 with the freebsd-update utility? Yes, it is. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565|

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
(This stuff would probably be a lot less confiusing if I actually knew what I was doing, but...) OK, Warren, I've just done the following steps. The first two I drew from the manpage examples, and then followed those up with two commands from your tutorial. /sbin/gpart create -s GPT ada0

eGalax USB touch panel on ExoPC Slate vs. FreeBSD and X11

2012-11-15 Thread Bill Paul
Okay. I have my doubts that anyone will be able to answer this question but I'm going to try anyway. I have an ExoPC Slate tablet with FreeBSD 9.0 freshly installed on it, and it has the following touch screen device: ugen0.2: eGalax Inc. at usbus0 ums0: eGalax Inc. USB TouchController, class

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Andreas == Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net writes: Andreas On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:46:53 +0100 Andreas Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net wrote: Thanks for the clearification. One technical thing: is it possible, to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0 to 9.1 with the freebsd-update utility? Andreas

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
NEVERMIND! It took me awhile, but I think I've finally got the hang of this gpart/GPT stuff... well... mostly anyway (but see below). I understand now that /boot/mbr is a regular sort of MBR, with regular sort of MBR bootstrap code, whereas /boot/pbmr is the ``protected'' MBR record that says,

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Doug Hardie
On 15 November 2012, at 17:04, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Andreas == Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net writes: Andreas On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:46:53 +0100 Andreas Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net wrote: Thanks for the clearification. One technical thing: is it possible, to upgrade from

How close is 9.1 to release?

2012-11-15 Thread Brett Glass
Have begun getting warnings from freebsd-update that 9.0 is close to its EOL, but the successor release (9.1) is not even out yet... which means that there's no way to gauge its stability or quality by watching for reported problems. How's 9.1-RELEASE coming? Any showstoppers? --Brett Glass

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Shane Ambler
On 16/11/2012 02:25, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: Is there a recommended way to automate the GEOM re-tasting so SD cards can be accessed without further interaction (by simply using the correct mount command)? Not AFAIK. Could depend on hardware also; some card

Re: Advanced Format Drive ?

2012-11-15 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I think that I have only two final questions: 1) I can't remember now if the ``guided'' partitioning approach that is offered to folks who are installing FreeBSD 9.x itself offers a GPT option or not. Does it? (If not, and if MBR is really now

Re: Mounting SD card.

2012-11-15 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:25:28 +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: On 16/11/2012 02:25, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: Is there a recommended way to automate the GEOM re-tasting so SD cards can be accessed without further interaction (by simply using the correct mount

Re: Texlive

2012-11-15 Thread Sabine Baer
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:44:54PM +0100, Belgacem Jellali wrote: Salut J'aime beaucoup FreeBSD, mais je ne peux pas l'utiliser au quotidien car j'ai besoin de TexLive2012 et les ports FreeBSD ne le fournissent pas. Y-a-t'il un moyen pour installer TexLive2012? si oui, je ne supprimerai

Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.

2012-11-15 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hi Andreas, do I understand it right - the default behaviour of freebsd-update will be to update a 9.0 system to 9.1 when it becomes available? So this is a rolling procedure? I ask this because I could not find a parameter etc. in the man page which may influent this, e.g. to