Re: ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-19 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Friday, Jul 18, 2003, at 08:34 US/Mountain, Dave [Hawk-Systems] 
wrote:
You are preaching to the choir as we use Perl/PHP to accomplish all 
our server
based programing and scripting. Telling clients however that they need 
to
migrate their code over to Perl/PHP just means we lose them to someone
supporting windows/ASP.

I wonder about the viability of running one of the ASP things on your 
server to support ASP for those dumb people who insist on using it.

You may get the scripting language but don't most developers also take 
advantage of various COM (or whatever they are called now) objects in 
their scripts and these only work under Windows?  What good is the 
scripting language part when the building blocks themselves won't run?

After looking into this a year or so ago that is the conclusion I came 
to at least...

If you make this work for you, post your experience please!

best regards
Chad
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ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-18 Thread Dave [Hawk-Systems]
This may be better posted to the Apache list, but that has been filling up with
windows implementations as of late...

Have recently been inundated with requests for ASP on our FreeBSD/Apache servers
(probably because the Win2K solutions are incredibly unreliable/vulnerability
prone).

What is the latest and most stable solution to providing ASP functionality on
FreeBSD 4.x stable with Apache 1.3x  (currently we are running with SSL, PHP,
etc... in case there are any conflicts that we need to be aware of). I see the
perl port in the ports, anyone with experience with that?

thanks

Dave


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Re: ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-18 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Dave [Hawk-Systems] typed:
 This may be better posted to the Apache list, but that has been filling up with
 windows implementations as of late...
 
 Have recently been inundated with requests for ASP on our FreeBSD/Apache servers
 (probably because the Win2K solutions are incredibly unreliable/vulnerability
 prone).

Isn't asp part of these unreliable/vulnerability prone Win2K solutions?

 What is the latest and most stable solution to providing ASP functionality on
 FreeBSD 4.x stable with Apache 1.3x  (currently we are running with SSL, PHP,
 etc... in case there are any conflicts that we need to be aware of). I see the
 perl port in the ports, anyone with experience with that?

What exactly do you mean by ASP functionality? Anything you can do in asp
that you can't do in php/perl/whatever scripting language?

 thanks
 
 Dave
 
 
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RE: ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-18 Thread Dave [Hawk-Systems]
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:41:56AM -0400, Dave [Hawk-Systems] typed:
 This may be better posted to the Apache list, but that has been
filling up with
 windows implementations as of late...

 Have recently been inundated with requests for ASP on our
FreeBSD/Apache servers
 (probably because the Win2K solutions are incredibly unreliable/vulnerability
 prone).

Isn't asp part of these unreliable/vulnerability prone Win2K solutions?

yes.  its like customers asking for frontpage support on unix because windows is
unreliable.  Logic would indicate that maybe they shouldn't be using frontpage
then, but when everyone with a copy of frontpage is a developer...

 What is the latest and most stable solution to providing ASP functionality on
 FreeBSD 4.x stable with Apache 1.3x  (currently we are running with SSL, PHP,
 etc... in case there are any conflicts that we need to be aware of).
I see the
 perl port in the ports, anyone with experience with that?

What exactly do you mean by ASP functionality? Anything you can do in asp
that you can't do in php/perl/whatever scripting language?

The goal being to allow developers who want to use ASP because they are
incapable of grasping perl/PHP/etc... to develop or migrate sites to our unix
based servers.

You are preaching to the choir as we use Perl/PHP to accomplish all our server
based programing and scripting. Telling clients however that they need to
migrate their code over to Perl/PHP just means we lose them to someone
supporting windows/ASP.

Dave


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Re: ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-18 Thread Mike Maltese
Supposedly this product will work natively on FreeBSD.
http://www.halcyonsoft.com/products.asp?s=1

I belive Chili!Soft ASP has been bought out by Sun and renamed Sun ONE, so
you may want to look into that product. It runs on Linux so it might work
with FreeBSD.


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 This may be better posted to the Apache list, but that has been filling up
with
 windows implementations as of late...

 Have recently been inundated with requests for ASP on our FreeBSD/Apache
servers
 (probably because the Win2K solutions are incredibly
unreliable/vulnerability
 prone).

 What is the latest and most stable solution to providing ASP functionality
on
 FreeBSD 4.x stable with Apache 1.3x  (currently we are running with SSL,
PHP,
 etc... in case there are any conflicts that we need to be aware of). I see
the
 perl port in the ports, anyone with experience with that?

 thanks

 Dave


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RE: ASP on FreeBSD/Apache - most recent, stable and viable solution?

2003-07-18 Thread Dave [Hawk-Systems]


Supposedly this product will work natively on FreeBSD.
http://www.halcyonsoft.com/products.asp?s=1

will check it out

I belive Chili!Soft ASP has been bought out by Sun and renamed Sun ONE, so
you may want to look into that product. It runs on Linux so it might work
with FreeBSD.

Previous attempts to look at chilisoft put me at the same conclusion, and at
$500 per license, and not listing FreeBSD as a supported OS, pretty hefty for
something that may or may not work for our chosen OS.  that being said, if it
works and is stable, $500 would be worth it on a select machine or two.

thanks for the link.

Dave

 This may be better posted to the Apache list, but that has been filling up
with
 windows implementations as of late...

 Have recently been inundated with requests for ASP on our FreeBSD/Apache
servers
 (probably because the Win2K solutions are incredibly
unreliable/vulnerability
 prone).

 What is the latest and most stable solution to providing ASP functionality
on
 FreeBSD 4.x stable with Apache 1.3x  (currently we are running with SSL,
PHP,
 etc... in case there are any conflicts that we need to be aware of). I see
the
 perl port in the ports, anyone with experience with that?

 thanks

 Dave


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