Accessibility hardware for the blind

2007-06-01 Thread Tim Kellers

I'm teaching the Open Source Unix certification track at NJIT (using
FreeBSD 6.2) to a group of physically challenged students.  Some of my
current students have extremely low vision and I have several candidates
for the next rotation of the classes that have similar low-vision
problems or are completely sightless.

I need to know if an audio solution exists (in hardware or software)
that will speak monitor output.  I need something that will work
independently of X windows.  I've tried using gnopernicus in both KDE
and Gnome and I've never gotten  its audio component to work. I can turn
on KDE's talking tools, but it only speaks commands and entered text in
specific applications (like Koffice).  I need a screen reader that will
speak the entire screen (and terminal windows).

I haven't found a software solution that addresses all the needs of a
spoken command line environment so I'm looking for a hardware solution
(appliance or device) that will speak the screen, but I haven't found
one, yet.

One of my students was an employee of ATT in their Unix division in NJ
and is considering a job-offer from a consultant who will need him to
administer servers using WebMin and a command line environment, but
screen readers such as JAWS that work under Windows, do a poor job of
interpreting WebMin and will not read the I/O from a terminal window
created by Putty.  So, in addtion to needing something that will speak
console I/O, I need something that will properly interpret a Webmin
environment.  One portion of the course does teach using Lynx as a
browser and Webmin (if one uses the simplest theme) will work in that
environment.

Any ideas, experiences, or recommendations that you have to share would
be very much appreciated.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT


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Re: Accessibility hardware for the blind

2007-06-01 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:04:31 +1000
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:21:58 -0400
 Tim Kellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [...]
  I haven't found a software solution that addresses all the needs of
  a spoken command line environment so I'm looking for a hardware
  solution (appliance or device) that will speak the screen, but I
  haven't found one, yet.
 [...]
 Hi Tim,
 I'm always surprised by the seemingly void for this kind of support
 in OSS. It's not an easy thing to do, and possibly there is a lack of
 standards (what with all the different X toolkits,etc...)...

This is important project (and fully terminal-oriented):

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-adriane/index-en.html

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Accessibility hardware for the blind

2007-06-01 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:21:58 -0400
Tim Kellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to know if an audio solution exists (in hardware or software)
 that will speak monitor output.  I need something that will work
 independently of X windows.  I've tried using gnopernicus in both KDE
 and Gnome and I've never gotten  its audio component to work. I can turn
 on KDE's talking tools, but it only speaks commands and entered text in
 specific applications (like Koffice).  I need a screen reader that will
 speak the entire screen (and terminal windows).
 
 I haven't found a software solution that addresses all the needs of a
 spoken command line environment so I'm looking for a hardware solution
 (appliance or device) that will speak the screen, but I haven't found
 one, yet.
[...]
Hi Tim,
I'm always surprised by the seemingly void for this kind of support in OSS. It's
not an easy thing to do, and possibly there is a lack of standards (what with
all the different X toolkits,etc...)...

There seems to be a FFox extension to read the pages, Fire Fox,
http://www.firevox.clcworld.net/ , which may good enough for webmin.

You may want to check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_reader and, possibly
more to the point, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screen_readers 

Let us know what you come up with :)

Regards,
_
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