Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Bernard El-Hagin
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  On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
   Hello,
   
 When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
   anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
   do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
   using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
   to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.
  
  There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
  
  
  Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
  in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
  default and others don't. That's my real problem.
 
 Yes it does.  The last paragraph states:
 
 Anti-aliasing should be enabled the next time the X server is started.
 However, programs must know how to take advantage of it. At present, the
 Qt toolkit does, so the entire KDE environment can use anti-aliased
 fonts (see Section 5.7.3.2 on KDE for details). Gtk+ and GNOME can also
 be made to use anti-aliasing via the ``Font'' capplet (see Section
 5.7.1.3 for details). By default, Mozilla 1.2 and greater will
 automatically use anti-aliasing. To disable this, rebuild Mozilla with
 the -DWITHOUT_XFT flag.
 
 So, do you have gVim built with gtk+-2 support, and have you done what
 section 5.7.3.2 tells you for KDE/Qt apps (i.e. set QT_XFT to true)?
 
 
 I don't use KDE nor Gnome, but as I understand it any application which
 is built with either Qt or Gtk+-2 support should be capable of using
 anti-aliased fonts. What I'm asking is how do I:

Yes, per the cross-referenced sections in the above paragraph, you may
have to do some additional setting of variables if you do not use the
respective desktops.

 
 
 1. find out before building an application whether it will be built with
 support for either of those,

As things are right now, looking at the ports' Makefiles is your best
bet.


OK, that's what I was looking for. Thanks.


 2. make sure that such support is added if it's not there by default
 (which I should be able to establish in step 1).

Once you figure out the variable to set, you can add it to make.conf or
pkgtools.conf (or both).


Does this mean that the name of the variable governing the AA fonts will
be the same for any application which can use them? That's cool.


Thanks for your help.


Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-04 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:58, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
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 On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:41, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:17, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
Hello,

  When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.
   
   There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:
   
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
   
   
   Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
   in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
   default and others don't. That's my real problem.
  
  Yes it does.  The last paragraph states:
  
  Anti-aliasing should be enabled the next time the X server is started.
  However, programs must know how to take advantage of it. At present, the
  Qt toolkit does, so the entire KDE environment can use anti-aliased
  fonts (see Section 5.7.3.2 on KDE for details). Gtk+ and GNOME can also
  be made to use anti-aliasing via the ``Font'' capplet (see Section
  5.7.1.3 for details). By default, Mozilla 1.2 and greater will
  automatically use anti-aliasing. To disable this, rebuild Mozilla with
  the -DWITHOUT_XFT flag.
  
  So, do you have gVim built with gtk+-2 support, and have you done what
  section 5.7.3.2 tells you for KDE/Qt apps (i.e. set QT_XFT to true)?
  
  
  I don't use KDE nor Gnome, but as I understand it any application which
  is built with either Qt or Gtk+-2 support should be capable of using
  anti-aliased fonts. What I'm asking is how do I:
 
 Yes, per the cross-referenced sections in the above paragraph, you may
 have to do some additional setting of variables if you do not use the
 respective desktops.
 
  
  
  1. find out before building an application whether it will be built with
  support for either of those,
 
 As things are right now, looking at the ports' Makefiles is your best
 bet.
 
 
 OK, that's what I was looking for. Thanks.
 
 
  2. make sure that such support is added if it's not there by default
  (which I should be able to establish in step 1).
 
 Once you figure out the variable to set, you can add it to make.conf or
 pkgtools.conf (or both).
 
 
 Does this mean that the name of the variable governing the AA fonts will
 be the same for any application which can use them? That's cool.

No.  WITH[OUT]_XFT is what some ports use, but some ports will use AA as
long as they're built with a supporting toolkit (e.g. vim).  In those
cases, you have to set the make variable to enable the port to build
with that toolkit (e.g. WITH_GTK2).

Joe

 
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Bernard
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Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Bernard El-Hagin


Hello,

  When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.


Thanks.


Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
 Hello,
 
   When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
 anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
 do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
 using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
 to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.

There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html

Joe

 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Bernard El-Hagin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
 Hello,
 
   When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
 anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
 do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
 using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
 to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.

There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html


Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
default and others don't. That's my real problem.


Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:17, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
  Hello,
  
When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
  anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
  do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
  using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
  to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.
 
 There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
 
 
 Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
 in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
 default and others don't. That's my real problem.

Yes it does.  The last paragraph states:

Anti-aliasing should be enabled the next time the X server is started.
However, programs must know how to take advantage of it. At present, the
Qt toolkit does, so the entire KDE environment can use anti-aliased
fonts (see Section 5.7.3.2 on KDE for details). Gtk+ and GNOME can also
be made to use anti-aliasing via the ``Font'' capplet (see Section
5.7.1.3 for details). By default, Mozilla 1.2 and greater will
automatically use anti-aliasing. To disable this, rebuild Mozilla with
the -DWITHOUT_XFT flag.

So, do you have gVim built with gtk+-2 support, and have you done what
section 5.7.3.2 tells you for KDE/Qt apps (i.e. set QT_XFT to true)?

Joe

 
 
 Cheers,
 Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Bernard El-Hagin
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On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:17, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
  Hello,
  
When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
  anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
  do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
  using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
  to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.
 
 There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
 
 
 Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
 in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
 default and others don't. That's my real problem.

Yes it does.  The last paragraph states:

Anti-aliasing should be enabled the next time the X server is started.
However, programs must know how to take advantage of it. At present, the
Qt toolkit does, so the entire KDE environment can use anti-aliased
fonts (see Section 5.7.3.2 on KDE for details). Gtk+ and GNOME can also
be made to use anti-aliasing via the ``Font'' capplet (see Section
5.7.1.3 for details). By default, Mozilla 1.2 and greater will
automatically use anti-aliasing. To disable this, rebuild Mozilla with
the -DWITHOUT_XFT flag.

So, do you have gVim built with gtk+-2 support, and have you done what
section 5.7.3.2 tells you for KDE/Qt apps (i.e. set QT_XFT to true)?


I don't use KDE nor Gnome, but as I understand it any application which
is built with either Qt or Gtk+-2 support should be capable of using
anti-aliased fonts. What I'm asking is how do I:


1. find out before building an application whether it will be built with
support for either of those,


2. make sure that such support is added if it's not there by default
(which I should be able to establish in step 1).


Thanks.


Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Anti aliased fonts in FBSD

2003-12-03 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:41, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 01:17, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 00:46, Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
   Hello,
   
 When I install some appliactions from ports they have nice
   anti-aliased fonts by default (gaim, for example). Unfortunately others
   do not (most notably gVim and also LinCVS, both of which are capable of
   using them). Where exactly is this governed? How do I tell applications
   to always use anti-aliased fonts? I am running CURRENT.
  
  There's a section on this in the FreeBSD handbook:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
  
  
  Thanks to that section of the handbook I have enabled anti-aliased fonts
  in X, but it doesn't explain why some applications use those fonts by
  default and others don't. That's my real problem.
 
 Yes it does.  The last paragraph states:
 
 Anti-aliasing should be enabled the next time the X server is started.
 However, programs must know how to take advantage of it. At present, the
 Qt toolkit does, so the entire KDE environment can use anti-aliased
 fonts (see Section 5.7.3.2 on KDE for details). Gtk+ and GNOME can also
 be made to use anti-aliasing via the ``Font'' capplet (see Section
 5.7.1.3 for details). By default, Mozilla 1.2 and greater will
 automatically use anti-aliasing. To disable this, rebuild Mozilla with
 the -DWITHOUT_XFT flag.
 
 So, do you have gVim built with gtk+-2 support, and have you done what
 section 5.7.3.2 tells you for KDE/Qt apps (i.e. set QT_XFT to true)?
 
 
 I don't use KDE nor Gnome, but as I understand it any application which
 is built with either Qt or Gtk+-2 support should be capable of using
 anti-aliased fonts. What I'm asking is how do I:

Yes, per the cross-referenced sections in the above paragraph, you may
have to do some additional setting of variables if you do not use the
respective desktops.

 
 
 1. find out before building an application whether it will be built with
 support for either of those,

As things are right now, looking at the ports' Makefiles is your best
bet.

 
 
 2. make sure that such support is added if it's not there by default
 (which I should be able to establish in step 1).

Once you figure out the variable to set, you can add it to make.conf or
pkgtools.conf (or both).

Joe

 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Bernard
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