Re: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot

2008-06-06 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Jim Stapleton wrote:

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Stapleton wrote:

My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are
typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors
still bring notebooks as they provide quick  easy access to many
things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their
cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite
connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a
wireless hotspot.
- Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open.
- Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover
some of the cost.

For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the
charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first
thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using
battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig
sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal.


With that background info, my questions are:
1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to
go? Or would you all recommend something else? What?
2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards
available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers?
3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless
adaptor, How good/bad is/was it?

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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This particular wheel has already been invented several ways :)

http://psand.net/

https://en.wiki.aktivix.org/SquatTelecoms


Well, my dad wants to provide something for cheaper than hiring a
third-party vendor to come out into the middle of nowhere and do this
(amongst other things, since he's out there, he doesn't have to use
hundreds of miles of gas + extra man hours).


I think it is worth contacting psands to see if they will help with 
info, or you could go to a festival they are at and talk to them.




As for the second, that seems to be 'how to get an ISP', which he
already has researched, he is more looking to /be/ the ISP.


plus a bunch more about technology...




To keep power down you probably want to opt for a dedicated wireless router
box not a computer (unless you are also saving bandwidth with squid etc).
And to generate electricity use wind or solar.


Do you know of a wireless router that can provide individual user
authentication, without requiring a complex setup? Some places may not
want to pay for the internet connection, so he'll need to 'rent out'
connection bandwidth to other vendors.


Sorry I don't know a specific model. I'm sure you already know it just 
means search engines and reading detailed specs.


Out of curiosity what country are you in and what sort of festivals will 
you be providing the service at? I believe psands support events where 
they like what they are doing in addition to their commercial services.


This is getting a bit OT so email me off list if you like.

Chris



Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot

2008-06-05 Thread Jim Stapleton
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim Stapleton wrote:

 My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are
 typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors
 still bring notebooks as they provide quick  easy access to many
 things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their
 cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite
 connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a
 wireless hotspot.
 - Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open.
 - Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover
 some of the cost.

 For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the
 charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first
 thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using
 battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig
 sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal.


 With that background info, my questions are:
 1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to
 go? Or would you all recommend something else? What?
 2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards
 available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers?
 3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless
 adaptor, How good/bad is/was it?

 Thanks,
 -Jim Stapleton
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 This particular wheel has already been invented several ways :)

 http://psand.net/

 https://en.wiki.aktivix.org/SquatTelecoms

Well, my dad wants to provide something for cheaper than hiring a
third-party vendor to come out into the middle of nowhere and do this
(amongst other things, since he's out there, he doesn't have to use
hundreds of miles of gas + extra man hours).

As for the second, that seems to be 'how to get an ISP', which he
already has researched, he is more looking to /be/ the ISP.

 To keep power down you probably want to opt for a dedicated wireless router
 box not a computer (unless you are also saving bandwidth with squid etc).
 And to generate electricity use wind or solar.

Do you know of a wireless router that can provide individual user
authentication, without requiring a complex setup? Some places may not
want to pay for the internet connection, so he'll need to 'rent out'
connection bandwidth to other vendors.

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot

2008-06-05 Thread George Hartzell
Jim Stapleton writes:
  [...]
  Do you know of a wireless router that can provide individual user
  authentication, without requiring a complex setup? Some places may not
  want to pay for the internet connection, so he'll need to 'rent out'
  connection bandwidth to other vendors.

Nocatsplash might do what you want:

  http://nocat.net/

which can run on a linksys wrt54gl that's running openwrt

  http://openwrt.org/

or ChilliSpot (can also run on openwrt, and others)

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChilliSpot

or Wifidog

  http://dev.wifidog.org/

Googling up places that are discussing those releases should give you
pointers to others.

I haven't run any of them, but have had good luck using openwrt
running on various little wireless routers as openvpn endpoints.

g.
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Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot

2008-05-30 Thread Jim Stapleton
My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are
typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors
still bring notebooks as they provide quick  easy access to many
things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their
cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite
connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a
wireless hotspot.
- Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open.
- Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover
some of the cost.

For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the
charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first
thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using
battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig
sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal.


With that background info, my questions are:
1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to
go? Or would you all recommend something else? What?
2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards
available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers?
3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless
adaptor, How good/bad is/was it?

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Best solution - mobile wifi hotspot

2008-05-30 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Jim Stapleton wrote:

My dad makes instruments and goes to a lot of festivals. They are
typically in the middle of nowhere, without internet. Many vendors
still bring notebooks as they provide quick  easy access to many
things, but there is no internet. For credit cards, many use their
cell phones to make the transaction. My dad wants to get a satellite
connection (pure sattelite, no phone), and set up something to offer a
wireless hotspot.
- Some shows will just pay a flat fee, and have the hotspot open.
- Some shows won't pay a fee, and so he'll want to charge to recover
some of the cost.

For the open hotspots, a simple wireless router will do. For the
charge hotspots, we'd want something a little more flexible. My first
thought was 'FreeBSD can do that!'. The trick is that we will be using
battery power most of the time. Low power is the key. I'm thinknig
sub-20W max power drain worst case, SUB 10-15W is ideal.


With that background info, my questions are:
1) Is building a low power computer based on FreeBSD the right way to
go? Or would you all recommend something else? What?
2) Does anyone have experience with the GeodeNX or VIA C7 boards
available on NewEgg? Heads ups and pointers?
3) Does anyone have experiences with these and a given wireless
adaptor, How good/bad is/was it?

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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This particular wheel has already been invented several ways :)

http://psand.net/

https://en.wiki.aktivix.org/SquatTelecoms

To keep power down you probably want to opt for a dedicated wireless 
router box not a computer (unless you are also saving bandwidth with 
squid etc). And to generate electricity use wind or solar.


Chris
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