Dual booting with OSX without bootcamp

2010-09-10 Thread Vincent Hoffman
 Hi all,
Work has kindly supplied a shiny new macbook pro (6,2) so
I've re-partitioned it (OSX's grow/shrink partitions/filesystems online
is handy) and now have an EFI partition (hidden,) OSX partition, FreeBSD
/ partition, ZFS partition for the rest  and a swap partition. I've
stuck with GPT to avoid reinstalling and the fiddly process that is
installing anything but windows via bootcamp without trashing the
system. FreeBSD was installed by using the DVD with the livefs,
Partitioning of free space done with gpart, and install done with the
shell scripts (in /dist/8.1-RELEASE/{kernel,base,whatever}  adapted from
the instructions here
http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/3/20/installing-freebsd-onto-a-usb-stick
)

The problem is booting it, my initial hope was that rEFIt would just
work, but no joy. Next I looked for an EFI loader for freebsd and found
http://blogs.freebsdish.org/rpaulo/2008/09/03/so-you-want-to-test-the-freebsdi386-efi-boot-loader/
but it still wont quite boot a kernel so no joy. Next came grub2 as this
will boot freebsd and also has EFI support, however the EFI support
doesnt support FreeBSD, so I cant find a way to boot . So currently I
can only boot FreeBSD by booting a grub2 CDROM, tellit it to look at the
config file on my mac partition, then booting freebsd using that, If
anyone has a better suggestion I'd welcome it.
   
Other than that it seems to be working ok, no wireless support as
its a broadcom 43224 which doesn't seem to be supported, however I see
that broadcom have just opensourced their linux drivers (including for
the 43224) so maybe that will open the way to more support in the BSDs
too.  In the mean time I'll try ndiswrapper or just use a usb device, I
may try take it up to 9-CURRENT so i get atp(4) and see if anything else
relevant has been improved.

If anyone else has a simpler way of booting (without needing to use
bootcamp/the fakembr etc as I'm happy to never have to use
fdisk/bsdlabel again ;) then I'd be interested to hear it, I did see if
i could use grub2efi to boot grub2 (non efi), or use rEFIt to boot grub2
(non efi) from a file to avoid the cdrom but no joy.

Vince



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Bootcamp?

2009-11-19 Thread Juan Francisco Millan
Hello i´m a mac user since long ago, i just downloaded Freebsd 7.2 and i will 
install it on a 2800+ amd athlon 64 bits , does freebsd has a boot camp or 
virtual machine,  so i can  install a os x  also?
Thanks

 Juan Francisco Millan
 www.lifante.cl
 Phone: 56-02-5541348
  Fax:  56-02-5569585
 


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RE: Bootcamp?

2009-11-19 Thread David Rawling
Juan wrote:
Hello i´m a mac user since long ago, i just downloaded Freebsd 7.2 and
i will install it on a 2800+ amd athlon 64 bits , does freebsd has a
boot camp or virtual machine,  so i can  install a os x  also?
 
Hi Juan and welcome to the FreeBSD community. You might try VirtualBox,
which is similar to VMWare Workstation but free and part of the ports
tree.

There's probably a package for it - try:

pkg_add -r virtualbox

However, you may struggle to install OS/X - Apple have some reasonable
technical restrictions in place, and a licensing restriction also that
prevents use on non Apple hardware. As a result you probably are not
licensed to, and may not physically be able to, use OS/X on your new PC.

Dave.
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Re: Bootcamp?

2009-11-19 Thread Ed Jobs
On Friday 20 November 2009 02:17, David Rawling wrote:
 Hi Juan and welcome to the FreeBSD community. You might try VirtualBox,
 which is similar to VMWare Workstation but free and part of the ports
 tree.
 
 There's probably a package for it - try:
 
 pkg_add -r virtualbox
 
 However, you may struggle to install OS/X - Apple have some reasonable
 technical restrictions in place, and a licensing restriction also that
 prevents use on non Apple hardware. As a result you probably are not
 licensed to, and may not physically be able to, use OS/X on your new PC.

well, since Juan mentioned bootcamp, i guess he wants to install freebsd on a 
mac. correct me if i am wrong


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Re: Bootcamp?

2009-11-19 Thread Jason

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:18:36AM +0200, Ed Jobs thus spake:

On Friday 20 November 2009 02:17, David Rawling wrote:

Hi Juan and welcome to the FreeBSD community. You might try VirtualBox,
which is similar to VMWare Workstation but free and part of the ports
tree.

There's probably a package for it - try:

pkg_add -r virtualbox

However, you may struggle to install OS/X - Apple have some reasonable
technical restrictions in place, and a licensing restriction also that
prevents use on non Apple hardware. As a result you probably are not
licensed to, and may not physically be able to, use OS/X on your new PC.


well, since Juan mentioned bootcamp, i guess he wants to install freebsd on a
mac. correct me if i am wrong


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understand.


Beyond this, there is a virtualbox installation dmg for MacOSX. It won't
work on a growing file system, for FreeBSD, but will on a hard limit 
file system size for the installation of the virtual machine.

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Re: Bootcamp?

2009-11-19 Thread Ed Jobs
On Friday 20 November 2009 03:35, Matt Szubrycht wrote:
 I am not aware of any emulators/virtual machine software capable of 
running
  OS X, but would be VERY interested in doing that as well.
 

There is a vmware image of OS X Leopard in quite a few bittorrent trackers.

But the really interesting thing is that sun released the 3.1 beta of 
vitrualbox and it is now capable of EFI emulation (Or at least sun claims so). 

So, yes. It's possible to run OS X in a VM

ps. be careful to follow the licence of OS X.

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