CVSup Tags and release status
I am fairly new to FreeBSD and I was recently reading about CVSup for updating packages and such, but I beleive the information I was reading is out-dated: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? Any help with either issue would be appreciated. Thanks, Travis To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
Hi, On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:55:01PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. FreeBSD 5.0-STABLE may not be as stable as you hope :-) Have a read of: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/early-adopter.html for details on the FreeBSD release process. Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? From the above url: FreeBSD 5.0 will be based on the CURRENT branch. This will be the first release from this branch in over two years (the last was FreeBSD 4.0, in March 2000). At some point after the release of FreeBSD 5.0, a ``5-STABLE'' branch will be created in the FreeBSD CVS repository with the branch tag RELENG_5. The past two stable branches (3-STABLE and 4-STABLE) were created immediately after their respective ``dot-oh'' releases (3.0 and 4.0, respectively). In hindsight, this practice did not give sufficient time for either CURRENT or the new STABLE branches to stabilize after the new branches were created. Therefore, the release engineering team will only create the 5-STABLE branch in the CVS repository after they have found a relatively stable state to use as its basis. It is likely that there will be multiple releases in the 5.X series before this happens; we estimate that the 5-STABLE branch will be created sometime after 5.1-RELEASE or 5.2-RELEASE. cheers sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:55:01PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. There's no such thing as stable packages, because the ports collection is not branched. Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? No, but anyway the point is that Nvidia doesn't support 5.0-anything. The driver will probably work if you remove the warning, but you're on your own support-wise. Kris msg20099/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:55:01PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. There's no such thing as stable packages, because the ports collection is not branched. So what tag should I use for FreeBSD-STABLE, as the handbook refers to it? Is RELENG_4 still correct? Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? No, but anyway the point is that Nvidia doesn't support 5.0-anything. The driver will probably work if you remove the warning, but you're on your own support-wise. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:55:01 -0500, Travis Troyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am fairly new to FreeBSD and I was recently reading about CVSup for updating packages and such, but I beleive the information I was reading is out-dated: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. If you are fairly new, you will be happier with 4-STABLE. Now that 5.0 has been released in a -STABLE but by no means have all the kinks been worked out version, yes, RELENG_5_0 is the tag for security and other critical version 5 fixes, as RELENG_4_7 is for version 4. Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? 5.0 *or* -CURRENT is what the forward slash in between means. Semantics aside, -CURRENT isn't that far removed from 5.0-Release at this point anyway. I think I did see some messages in this list about altering a few lines somewhere to run the nVidia driver with 5.0/-CURRENT. But 5.0 or - CURRENT is what you should run if you feel you have the knowledge to help yourself when you encounter problems, and to help the project as well by filing PRs and/or submitting patches. If you want the latest version that mostly just works, 4-STABLE is where you should be. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
On Friday 21 February 2003 04:10 am, Travis Troyer wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:55:01PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. That is referring to critical security fixes relating to that release only. RELENG_5_0 is a release branch. Basically release branches were recently added that allow security fixes to go into each of them, so old releases still get security fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I yes but remember 5.0 is a release from the current branch and is still for early adopters only. make sure to read that page too. installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. There's no such thing as stable packages, because the ports collection is not branched. So what tag should I use for FreeBSD-STABLE, as the handbook refers to it? Is RELENG_4 still correct? In a word yes. You'll want to read the handbook section that explains the difference between -current and -stable: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html this is also good to explain all the tags: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html and finally these help explain releases: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/schedule.html the last two are pretty illustrative of the amount of work that goes into putting together the kind of solid OS releases we've come to count on. The recent release of 5.0-rel from the -current branch adds a little extra confusion since releases are normally from the -stable branch. Eventually 5 will have a 5-stable branch. For a while there was a 3-stable and 4-stable at the same time, so I imagine it will be similiar this time. Releases are essentilly specific points along one of the development branches where there was a code freeze for a while to do some additional stability fixes, test releases (release candidates) made to help facilitate that, and then the release is declared. That makes these more stable and conservative than, the -stable or -current development branches. If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? nope, as explained above, you'd be running 5.0 release. (see the output of uname -a ) Hope that helped clear up a few things. I think you'll reallize you've found something pretty cool in FreeBSD. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:10:54PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: There's no such thing as stable packages, because the ports collection is not branched. So what tag should I use for FreeBSD-STABLE, as the handbook refers to it? Is RELENG_4 still correct? I'm not sure you took my point. The ports collection does not exist in current and stable versions; there's just one ports collection for all (supported) FreeBSD branches. RELENG_4 is the tag that refers to the 4.x-STABLE _source_ tree. Kris msg20111/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CVSup Tags and release status
Basically, there are 2 kinds of major upgrades you can do to your whole FreeBSD system : (1) The operating system itself (also called the base system) In this case, TAG = RELENG_4 refers to the stable branch (FreeBSD 4.X and up to but not including 5.X) TAG = . refers to whatever the current branch is (in the meantime, it's FreeBSD 5.0 Release) TAG = RELENG_5 which is basically the same as TAG =. as of now since there is no stable branch for 5.X releases yet. (2) All other software besides the OS, i.e. the ports, such as xfree86, openoffice, KDE, GNOME, mplayer, XMMS, etc. In this case, the only relevant tag is TAG = . (which is always current) OS + Ports = your entire FreeBSD system. At least that's how I understand the system myself, hope that helps. From: Travis Troyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVSup Tags and release status Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:10:54 -0500 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:55:01PM -0500, Travis Troyer wrote: This says that RELENG_4 is for FreeBSD-STABLE and that RELENG_5_0 is used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. Is this still the case now that 5.0 is the current release version? I installed FreeBSD using the 5.0-Release ISO and want the most current, but stable packages, so I'm not sure which tag to use. There's no such thing as stable packages, because the ports collection is not branched. So what tag should I use for FreeBSD-STABLE, as the handbook refers to it? Is RELENG_4 still correct? Also, I'm trying to install NVidia's geforce driver, which says it is for FreeBSD -STABLE version 4.7 or later. When I try to compile it, it says that This driver does not support FreeBSD 5.0/-CURRENT! If I installed FreeBSD from the 5.0-Release ISO, wouldn't I be running 5.0-Stable and not 5.0-Current? No, but anyway the point is that Nvidia doesn't support 5.0-anything. The driver will probably work if you remove the warning, but you're on your own support-wise. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
