Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
On Thursday 26 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On > > > > Wednesday 25 > > > > April 2007, L Goodwin said: > > > > Will someone please lead me in the right > > > > direction towards > > > > > > resolving the following network issue? > > > > > > > > I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that > > > > consists of a router > > > > > > and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP > > > > Pro and the other > > > > > > Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the > > > > Internet via a cable > > > > > > modem that goes through the router. The router > > > > is set up to be > > > > > > the DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a > > > > non-unique IP > > > > > > address. > > > > > > > > Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, > > > > everybody was getting > > > > > > along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically > > > > assigned to the > > > > > > pc's). > > > > > > > > I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, > > > > selected "Configure > > > > > > additional network interfaces" from the > > > > sysinstall menu, selected > > > > > > "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast > > > > Ethernet card" from > > > > > > the top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts > > > > to try to > > > > > > configure IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network > > > > Configuration > > > > > > dialog contained the following values (which I > > > > did not alter): > > > > Host: dhcppc0 > > > > Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) > > > > IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > > > Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) > > > > Configuration for Interface fxp0: > > > > IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 > > > > Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > > > Extra options: (blank) > > > > > > > > Note that the Host field does not match the > > > > hostname of the > > > > > > FreeBSD box, which is named "SERVER" (real > > > > creative, huh?). I > > > > > > guess I should have changed the Host field to > > > > "SERVER", eh? > > > > > > Then I got the following console messages on the > > > > FreeBSD server: > > > > 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp > > > > 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using > > > > > > my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 > > > > 14:07:05 dhcpp0 > > > > > > kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP > > > > address > > > > > > xxx.xxx.x.xx!" > > > > > > > > I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and > > > > found that the > > > > > > FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as > > > > the Windows XP box > > > > > > (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the > > > > FreeBSD box being > > > > > > assigned a non-unique IP address? > > > > > > 1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up > > > > properly. > > > > > 2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a > > > > static ip. The > > > > > box could be hard coded to an ip address and your > > > > dhcp server > > > > > thinks the lease is free. > > > > > > Other than that you need to supply more info. > > > > > > Beech > > > > > > On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > > > I'll double-check the things you listed. If you > > > > can tell me what > > > > > additional info I need to supply and where to get > > > > it, I'll be happy > > > > > to oblige. Thanks... > > > > On the XP box what does the output of 'ipconfig > > /all' tell you about the DHCP lease? > > Lease Obtained: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:36:42 AM > Lease Expires: Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:36:42 AM > (also says "Dhcp Enabled: Yes" and "Autoconfiguration > enabled: Yes") > Given these settings, I don't think I need to run > ipconfig /renew on this system... > > Note: I wasn't able to get on the Vista box to get > current ipconfig /all output. An older printout shows > "DHCP Enabled: No", but it was enabled last time I > checked. I'll check again. > > > On the FreeBSD box what is in /etc/rc.conf? > > I had a feeling I'd find something like this, but did > not know where to look): > -- > hostname="SERVER" (this is the hostname I want to use) > ipv6_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > samba_enable="YES" > > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- > # Wed Apr 25 13:38:08 2007 > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" > ipv6_enable="YES" > hostname="dhcppc0." > -- > Note that there are two each of the ipv6_enable and > hostname entries. > I assume I should remove one of each. I want to use > hostname "SERVER". If I delete this one, will it > work?: > hostname="dhcppc0." > Please advise as to what to change. > Delete any duplicates that you don't want. You should only have one entry for hostname=, same for ifconfig_fxp0=. > > On your router what is the DHCP range set to? and > > how long do the leases last before they expire? > > > > > > And from the other post it's not possible to > > "accidentally" make the FreeBSD box a DHCP server. > > You would have to install the isc-dhcpd > > port, th
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
--- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On > Wednesday 25 > April 2007, L Goodwin said: > > > Will someone please lead me in the right > direction towards > > > resolving the following network issue? > > > > > > I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that > consists of a router > > > and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP > Pro and the other > > > Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the > Internet via a cable > > > modem that goes through the router. The router > is set up to be > > > the DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a > non-unique IP > > > address. > > > > > > Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, > everybody was getting > > > along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically > assigned to the > > > pc's). > > > > > > I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, > selected "Configure > > > additional network interfaces" from the > sysinstall menu, selected > > > "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast > Ethernet card" from > > > the top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts > to try to > > > configure IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network > Configuration > > > dialog contained the following values (which I > did not alter): > > > > > > Host: dhcppc0 > > > Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) > > > IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > > Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) > > > Configuration for Interface fxp0: > > > IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 > > > Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > > Extra options: (blank) > > > > > > Note that the Host field does not match the > hostname of the > > > FreeBSD box, which is named "SERVER" (real > creative, huh?). I > > > guess I should have changed the Host field to > "SERVER", eh? > > > > > > Then I got the following console messages on the > FreeBSD server: > > > > > > 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp > 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using > > > my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 > 14:07:05 dhcpp0 > > > kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP > address > > > xxx.xxx.x.xx!" > > > > > > I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and > found that the > > > FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as > the Windows XP box > > > (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the > FreeBSD box being > > > assigned a non-unique IP address? > > > > 1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up > properly. > > > > 2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a > static ip. The > > box could be hard coded to an ip address and your > dhcp server > > thinks the lease is free. > > > > Other than that you need to supply more info. > > > > Beech > > > On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > > I'll double-check the things you listed. If you > can tell me what > > additional info I need to supply and where to get > it, I'll be happy > > to oblige. Thanks... > > > > On the XP box what does the output of 'ipconfig > /all' tell you about the DHCP lease? Lease Obtained: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:36:42 AM Lease Expires: Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:36:42 AM (also says "Dhcp Enabled: Yes" and "Autoconfiguration enabled: Yes") Given these settings, I don't think I need to run ipconfig /renew on this system... Note: I wasn't able to get on the Vista box to get current ipconfig /all output. An older printout shows "DHCP Enabled: No", but it was enabled last time I checked. I'll check again. > On the FreeBSD box what is in /etc/rc.conf? I had a feeling I'd find something like this, but did not know where to look): -- hostname="SERVER" (this is the hostname I want to use) ipv6_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" samba_enable="YES" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Wed Apr 25 13:38:08 2007 ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" ipv6_enable="YES" hostname="dhcppc0." -- Note that there are two each of the ipv6_enable and hostname entries. I assume I should remove one of each. I want to use hostname "SERVER". If I delete this one, will it work?: hostname="dhcppc0." Please advise as to what to change. > On your router what is the DHCP range set to? and > how long do the leases last before they expire? > > And from the other post it's not possible to > "accidentally" make the FreeBSD box a DHCP server. > You would have to install the isc-dhcpd > port, then configure and start it. In any case, I verified that it's not installed. > If all of the above looks ok, go to /var/db and > delete anything that says "dhclient.leases" then > restart your machine and see if you get a new IP. Found dbclient.leases.fxp0 containing 2 "lease {...}" entries and moved it to $HOME (will delete once it's all working). I was surprised to find that the entries were for the Vista system (not the XP box). I'll verify that DHCP is enabled on the Vista box. One more question: When using DHCP, do I need to do anything to enable all hosts on the LAN to know each other by hostname (i.e., do I need
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
> Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > > Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards > > resolving the following network issue? > > > > I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router > > and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other > > Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable > > modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be > > the DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP > > address. > > > > Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting > > along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the > > pc's). > > > > I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure > > additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected > > "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from > > the top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to > > configure IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration > > dialog contained the following values (which I did not alter): > > > > Host: dhcppc0 > > Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) > > IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) > > Configuration for Interface fxp0: > > IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 > > Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > Extra options: (blank) > > > > Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the > > FreeBSD box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I > > guess I should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh? > > > > Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server: > > > > 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using > > my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 > > kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address > > xxx.xxx.x.xx!" > > > > I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the > > FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box > > (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being > > assigned a non-unique IP address? > > 1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up properly. > > 2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a static ip. The > box could be hard coded to an ip address and your dhcp server > thinks the lease is free. > > Other than that you need to supply more info. > > Beech > On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > I'll double-check the things you listed. If you can tell me what > additional info I need to supply and where to get it, I'll be happy > to oblige. Thanks... > First off, please don't top post. It makes the conversation hard to follow. On the XP box what does the output of 'ipconfig /all' tell you about the DHCP lease? On the FreeBSD box what is in /etc/rc.conf? On your router what is the DHCP range set to? and how long do the leases last before they expire? And from the other post it's not possible to "accidentally" make the FreeBSD box a DHCP server. You would have to install the isc-dhcpd port, then configure and start it. If all of the above looks ok, go to /var/db and delete anything that says "dhclient.leases" then restart your machine and see if you get a new IP. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
I'll double-check the things you listed. If you can tell me what additional info I need to supply and where to get it, I'll be happy to oblige. Thanks... Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards > resolving the following network issue? > > I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router > and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other > Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable > modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be the > DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP address. > > Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting > along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the > pc's). > > I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure > additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected > "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the > top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to configure > IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration dialog > contained the following values (which I did not alter): > > Host: dhcppc0 > Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) > IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) > Configuration for Interface fxp0: > IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 > Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > Extra options: (blank) > > Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD > box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I > should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh? > > Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server: > > 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using > my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 > kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address > xxx.xxx.x.xx!" > > I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the > FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box > (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being > assigned a non-unique IP address? 1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up properly. 2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a static ip. The box could be hard coded to an ip address and your dhcp server thinks the lease is free. Other than that you need to supply more info. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --- - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
I'm pretty sure the XP box is configured correctly for DHCP (no static IP), but will check it again. By "check the lease information in the DSL modem", do you mean to see if the CM IP Address "Expires" date is earlier than current date? I unplugged both the modem and the router today before connecting the new FreeBSD box, so I assume that they are both "current". I'll investigate/try all of the things you listed and see if anything turns up. I'll also check to see if /etc/rc.conf contains the following entry: ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" Is there any way that the NIC on FreeBSD box could get configured multiple times (e.g., multiple entries in config files), and if so, could this cause this? If the FreeBSD system were configured as a DHCP server (in addition to the router, which definitely is), what would you expect to happen? It shouldn't be, but what if it were? Thank you! Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/26/07, L Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards resolving the following network issue? 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP address? Have you checked the network properties (tcp-ip settings) for the XP machine to make sure it's being assigned a dynamic IP address? Have you tried running ipconfig /renew on the XP machine? Have you checked the lease information in the DSL modem? A DHCP server will not hand out the same IP address twice. The only time I've seen something like this happen is when the DHCP lease times out for an IP and windows doesn't renew the lease on the IP, the IP is put into the free-ip's pool and handed out when the DHCP feels up to it... So if the XP machine is setup for DHCP, it got the IP via dhcp, it probably didn't renew the lease on the IP. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
On Wednesday 25 April 2007, L Goodwin said: > Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards > resolving the following network issue? > > I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router > and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other > Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable > modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be the > DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP address. > > Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting > along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the > pc's). > > I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure > additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected > "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the > top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to configure > IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration dialog > contained the following values (which I did not alter): > > Host: dhcppc0 > Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) > IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) > Configuration for Interface fxp0: > IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 > Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > Extra options: (blank) > > Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD > box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I > should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh? > > Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server: > > 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using > my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 > kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address > xxx.xxx.x.xx!" > > I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the > FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box > (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being > assigned a non-unique IP address? 1. Check that your router's dhcp server is set up properly. 2. Check that the windows box is not set up with a static ip. The box could be hard coded to an ip address and your dhcp server thinks the lease is free. Other than that you need to supply more info. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
On 4/26/07, L Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards resolving the following network issue? 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP address? Have you checked the network properties (tcp-ip settings) for the XP machine to make sure it's being assigned a dynamic IP address? Have you tried running ipconfig /renew on the XP machine? Have you checked the lease information in the DSL modem? A DHCP server will not hand out the same IP address twice. The only time I've seen something like this happen is when the DHCP lease times out for an IP and windows doesn't renew the lease on the IP, the IP is put into the free-ip's pool and handed out when the DHCP feels up to it... So if the XP machine is setup for DHCP, it got the IP via dhcp, it probably didn't renew the lease on the IP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
DHCP/NIC IP address contention issues
Will someone please lead me in the right direction towards resolving the following network issue? I just added a FreeBSD server to a LAN that consists of a router and 2 pc's, one of which is running Windows XP Pro and the other Windows Vista. The lan is connected to the Internet via a cable modem that goes through the router. The router is set up to be the DHCP server. Now it is being assigned a non-unique IP address. Before adding the FreeBSD box to the mix, everybody was getting along fine (unique IP addresses were dynamically assigned to the pc's). I connected the FreeBSD box to the router, selected "Configure additional network interfaces" from the sysinstall menu, selected "fxp0 Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet card" from the top of the list and clicked "OK" to prompts to try to configure IPv6 and DCHP. When done, the Network Configuration dialog contained the following values (which I did not alter): Host: dhcppc0 Domain: (the cable provider's domain name) IPv4 Gateway: 192.168.1.1 Name server: (IP address of ISP's name server) Configuration for Interface fxp0: IPv4 Address: 192.168.1.33 Netmask: 255.255.255.0 Extra options: (blank) Note that the Host field does not match the hostname of the FreeBSD box, which is named "SERVER" (real creative, huh?). I guess I should have changed the Host field to "SERVER", eh? Then I got the following console messages on the FreeBSD server: 1) "Apr 25 13:33:19 SERVER kernel: arp 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" 2) "dhcppc0# Apr 25 14:07:05 dhcpp0 kernel: arp: 00:40:f4:47:fb:8e is using my IP address xxx.xxx.x.xx!" I ran "ipconfig /all" on both Windows boxes and found that the FreeBSD box is assigned the same IP address as the Windows XP box (which had that IP address FIRST). Why is the FreeBSD box being assigned a non-unique IP address? Thanks! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"