Did Microsoft give up?
Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Did Microsoft give up?
Hi, NetOpsCenter wrote: Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? they use this just as another form of outsourcing. As long as they get the work done and still can charge for their programs, why not? Isn't Microsoft doing some kind of open source stuff since some time? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up?
Super massive cross-post activate! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NetOpsCenter Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; LUAU; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; San Diego's BSD Users Group Subject: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up? Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ SDBUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sdbug.org/mailman/listinfo/sdbug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Did Microsoft give up?
I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? yes. look at linux as an example. this will make windows even slower, even more buggy - thats exactly what hardware producers like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Did Microsoft give up?
Why do you think hardware producers will like that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:09 PM To: NetOpsCenter Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; San Diego's BSD Users Group; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; LUAU Subject: Re: Did Microsoft give up? I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? yes. look at linux as an example. this will make windows even slower, even more buggy - thats exactly what hardware producers like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [LUAU] Did Microsoft give up?
On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:20 AM, NetOpsCenter wrote: Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? No. Its more get the EU off our backs and control the message. here are the key, tangible actions Microsoft details in their announcement: * Ensuring open connections to Microsoft’s high-volume products, where high-volume means: Windows Vista (including the .NET Framework), Windows Server 2008, SQL Server 2008, Office 2007, Exchange Server 2007, and Office SharePoint Server 2007, and future versions of all these products. Note that you'll need 'new software' to get the open connections. * Documenting how Microsoft supports industry standards and extensions * Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document formats * Launching the Open Source Interoperability Initiative * Expanding industry outreach and dialogue. Looking deeper into the announcement, much of what Microsoft’s doing is providing a more accessible platform for third-party developers to tap into their ecosystem of multi-billion dollar software franchises. For example, the company is launching APIs for Word, Excel, and Powerpoint, and publishing tens of thousands of pieces of documentation to its MSDN site. They're playing the same game with a new mask. They'll license their patented protocols to all comers at low, reasonable rates. They have stated that they won't sue open source developers that make products that connect to theirs. They have also stated that they won't sue open source developers or non-commercial distributors of software that uses their protocols. If you're RedHat, or a company that uses Debian or Ubuntu, you still have to license their patents. They did not vet' Open Source as a development process. They did not vet Free Software in any way, shape or form. Don't believe anything you see on TV. Here is the actual PR from MSFT: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-21ExpandInteroperabilityPR.mspx?rss_fdn=Press%20Releases Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Did Microsoft give up?
Why do you think hardware producers will like that? slowest system, and frequent new versions even slower, requiring constant buying new hardware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: Did Microsoft give up?
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Why do you think hardware producers will like that? slowest system, and frequent new versions even slower, requiring constant buying new hardware Much the same reason IBM like[ds] JCL on main frames. Every time somebody messed it up, it required more computer time on their iron. The army of ``systems engineers'' required to feed the beasts also benefit from the unnecessary complexity. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should therefore be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated. If the doctrine be admitted, rulers have only to declare war and they are screened at once from scrutiny ... In war, then, as in peace, assert the freedom of speech and of the press. Cling to this as the bulwark of all our rights and privileges. -- William Ellery Channing ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Did Microsoft give up?
NetOpsCenter 48799160 %m: Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. God. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? Yes. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]