Re: Evolution without gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 03 November 2003 04:54, Chris wrote: > I too opted for Kmail. Does what I need it to do, filters, uses encryption > - I wish tho it had the calendaring that Outlook has. You'll probably like Kontact then, version 0.8 of which will be part of KDE 3.2. Kontact ties KMail and KOrganizer into a single window and lots of work has been done on making them interact in a meaninful way. The 0.8 version number reflects that it isn't quite finished yet, but a standalone version of Kontact after KDE 3.2 is released, hopefully around Christmas time. - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/plLTF8Iu1zN5WiwRAltCAJ0Srvx52ZcSywnMA/HEwqXv0EGuiACgg1O8 Z6P273L+EEzuIE155eW1YYo= =FuL0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Monday 03 November 2003 05:42, C. Ulrich wrote: > hated having to wait and wait for the ENTIRE KDE SUBSYSTEM to start up "Entire KDE subsystem" is somewhat misleading. kdeinit will be launched which will want to run kbuildsycoca to check for any modified .desktop files, and so on (though this shouldn't take long as this is cached). You can speed this up by putting "kdeinit&" into your .xinitrc or whatever you use to start X, this will mean that kdeinit is started when you run start X, at the expense of a bit of memory. > just so I could launch one little app. Does KDE still operate this way? Yep. - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C KDE/Qt/C++/PHP Developer: http://www.kde.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/plJ1F8Iu1zN5WiwRAieKAJ9pW14zclUiFZQ6WLETd6O6eYF1VwCcCnwH VWMnPhT1NNqz1TwyTBU/Q7U= =sR/I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
Notice that everyone praising Evolution or Kmail used their mailer of choice to compose the message in question, but: Harald Schmalzbauer: > User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 > Well, even this incredible slow thunderbird was better than evolution IMHO. Scratch one vote for Thunderbird (leaving 0). Sebastian Smoller: > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 > so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution > right ? thats bad :( But not so bad that you haven't done it on your other systems, right? And then there's Parv, suggestor of mutt, whose mail contains no agent/mailer header. IIRC, mutt defaults to adding "X-Mail-Agent: mutt" but I'm sure it can be configured to put anything else, or nothing at all--and I doubt many modern mutt users leave the defaults alone. So I'll assume he's using mutt. To answer Parv's question, why not use mutt? Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but for me, it's because, despite the advertising, mutt is not nearly ELM-like enough--at least not after spending so many years using ELM, much of that over 300 baud connections, so that any deviation throws off my finger-memory. It'd be easier for me to switch to dvorak than mutt. And the fact that more than half the keystrokes are only documented in the manual, outside the software, doesn't help. I really did try, because I realized that otherwise I'd have to go to a graphical MUA or I'd be stuck with elm for life (which means no MIME, no security, no online IMAP...). Eventually, I decided to go to a graphical MUA. And, a few years later, Evolution 1.4 came out, and now I have one I can use happily. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 22:54, Chris wrote: > Evolution is slick. I loved it - but the fact remains that it is bloated and > runs horrid if you happen to save messages, and they are in the k's. The secret to get Evolution to run decent is to use the maildir format instead of mbox for all message folders. I have around 2200 folders with a total of 1.7 GB in the ~/evolution folder, and Evolution performs great. I believe that during startup it reindexes the mbox files, that's why it takes so long. If you use the maildir format, you save that time. For the most part, I'm very happy with Evolution. Cheers, Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sunday 02 November 2003 11:42 pm, C. Ulrich wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 18:50, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > (I love pine and kmail for GUI) > > I used to use kmail quite a while back and loved it. I eventually quit > using it and went to Mozilla mail because I ran the GNOME desktop and > hated having to wait and wait for the ENTIRE KDE SUBSYSTEM to start up > just so I could launch one little app. Does KDE still operate this way? > I think Evolution is slick, but I'm beginning to tire of GNOME's > our-way-or-the-highway interface design philosophy. Evolution is slick. I loved it - but the fact remains that it is bloated and runs horrid if you happen to save messages, and they are in the k's. I too opted for Kmail. Does what I need it to do, filters, uses encryption - I wish tho it had the calendaring that Outlook has. > > Charles Ulrich -- Best regards, Chris __ PGP Fingerprint = D976 2575 D0B4 E4B0 45CC AA09 0F93 FF80 C01B C363 PGP Mail encouraged / preferred - keys available on common key servers __ 01010010011101100011011001010111001001011000 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 18:50, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > (I love pine and kmail for GUI) I used to use kmail quite a while back and loved it. I eventually quit using it and went to Mozilla mail because I ran the GNOME desktop and hated having to wait and wait for the ENTIRE KDE SUBSYSTEM to start up just so I could launch one little app. Does KDE still operate this way? I think Evolution is slick, but I'm beginning to tire of GNOME's our-way-or-the-highway interface design philosophy. Charles Ulrich -- http://bityard.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:50, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > Well, even this incredible slow thunderbird was better than evolution IMHO. I have a pretty complicated setup--multiple identities, even more IMAP mailboxes, mailing lists that I want to filter into separate folders and auto-purge, a Palm to sync with, etc. If you don't need all this, something simpler should work fine. However, if you need something complicated, I don't think anything can match Evolution 1.4--including Outlook Express, Outlook, and Eudora, and Thunderbird and kmail (and especially including Evolution 1.2). For example, it's the only one that handles filtering IMAP properly (the kmail people refuse to accept a patch to add this)--although the vfolders feature means you might not need to anyway. It's the only one that handles error conditions like mail servers that occasionally go down for hours on end, running out of disk space, incomplete Palm sync'ing, etc. properly. In short, it does everything I need, and it just works. Plus, even on the slowest machine I have (PPro 200), it's still (just barely) usable (at least with a light Gtk 2 theme, running under fvwm2). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Monday 03 November 2003 00:21, parv wrote: > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > wrote sebastian ssmoller thusly... *SNIP* > Would it be too doggedly of me to suggest to use mutt instead? I mean > just look at it... > > # cd /usr3/ports/mail/mutt > # make pretty-print-build-depends-list > This port requires package(s) "autoconf-2.13.000227_5 automake-1.4.5_9 > docbook-1.2_1 docbook-241_2 docbook-3.0_2 docbook-3.1_2 docbook-4.0_2 > docbook-4.1_2 expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 iso8879-1986_2 jade-1.2.1_5 > libiconv-1.9.1_3 linuxdoc-1.1_1 m4-1.4_1 sgmlformat-1.7_2 xmlcatmgr-1.1" to > build. Well, even this incredible slow thunderbird was better than evolution IMHO. (Brings me to the question why under Win it responds reasonably but under FreeBSD you need lots of Baldrian-Mass (Mass= one bavarian beer unit, the big one and Baldrian is a homeopathic tranquilization drug) if you try to read more than 10 Mails/hour) But that's another subject. (I love pine and kmail for GUI) -Harry > > > - Parv pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: Evolution without gnome
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote sebastian ssmoller thusly... > > so to be more precise: > > $ cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution > $ make pretty-print-build-depends-list > > This port requires package(s) "ORBit2-2.8.2 > XFree86-fontEncodings-4.3.0 XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0 > XFree86-libraries-4.3.0_6 Xft-2.1.2 atk-1.4.1 ... some more dependencies... > startup-notification-0.5_1 tcl-8.3.5_2 tiff-3.6.0 tk-8.3.5_2 > xmlcatmgr-1.1" to build. > > so do i really have to install e.g.: > gconf2-2.4.0.1 > gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 > gnomepanel-2.4.1 > gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 > ... > > and i guess the deps of these ports too ... Would it be too doggedly of me to suggest to use mutt instead? I mean just look at it... # cd /usr3/ports/mail/mutt # make pretty-print-build-depends-list This port requires package(s) "autoconf-2.13.000227_5 automake-1.4.5_9 docbook-1.2_1 docbook-241_2 docbook-3.0_2 docbook-3.1_2 docbook-4.0_2 docbook-4.1_2 expat-1.95.6_1 gettext-0.12.1 iso8879-1986_2 jade-1.2.1_5 libiconv-1.9.1_3 linuxdoc-1.1_1 m4-1.4_1 sgmlformat-1.7_2 xmlcatmgr-1.1" to build. - Parv -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:25, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:26, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:06, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:06, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution > > > > right ? thats bad :( ... i wonder if all these dependencies are really > > > > necessary ... > > > > > > Everything Evo ropes in (except for gnomepilot2) is a required > > > dependency (basically libgnomeui and all of its dependencies, gtkhtml3, > > > gal2, and libsoup). > > > > so to be more precise: > > > > $ cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution > > $ make pretty-print-build-depends-list > > > > This port requires package(s) "ORBit2-2.8.2 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.3.0 > > XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0 XFree86-libraries-4.3.0_6 Xft-2.1.2 atk-1.4.1 > > bison-1.75_1 docbook-sk-4.1.2 docbook-xml-4.2_1 docbook-xsl-1.62.3 > > esound-0.2.32_1 expat-1.95.6_1 fontconfig-2.2.90_3 freetype2-2.1.5_1 > > gail-1.4.1 gal2-1.99.10 gconf2-2.4.0.1 gettext-0.12.1 glib-2.2.3 > > gmake-3.80_1 gnome-icon-theme-1.0.9 gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 > > gnomehier-1.0_10 gnomemimedata-2.4.0 gnomepanel-2.4.1 gnomepilot2-2.0.10 > > gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 gtk-2.2.4_1 gtkhtml3-3.0.9 imake-4.3.0_1 > > intltool-0.27.2 jpeg-6b_1 libIDL-0.8.2 libart_lgpl2-2.3.16 > > libaudiofile-0.2.4 libbonobo-2.4.1 libbonoboui-2.4.0 libglade2-2.0.1_1 > > libgnome-2.4.0 libgnomecanvas-2.4.0 libgnomeprint-2.4.0 > > libgnomeprintui-2.4.0 libgnomeui-2.4.0.1_1 libiconv-1.9.1_3 > > libsoup-1.99.26 libwnck-2.4.0.1 libxml2-2.5.11 libxslt-1.0.33 linc-1.0.3 > > m4-1.4_1 pango-1.2.5 perl-5.6.1_14 pilot-link-0.11.7_2 pkgconfig-0.15.0 > > png-1.2.5_2 popt-1.6.4_1 py23-expat-2.3.2_2 python-2.3.2 > > scrollkeeper-0.3.12_2,1 sdocbook-xml-4.1.2.5_1 > > startup-notification-0.5_1 tcl-8.3.5_2 tiff-3.6.0 tk-8.3.5_2 > > xmlcatmgr-1.1" to build. > > > > so do i really have to install e.g.: > > gconf2-2.4.0.1 > > gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 > > gnomepanel-2.4.1 > > gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 > > ... > > > > and i guess the deps of these ports too ... > > No. Please re-read my previous emails. If you define -DWITHOUT_PILOT, > you will not have to build gnomepilot2, and thus not have to build > gnomepanel or gnomedesktop. > you are right ... now i understand what you mean :) i overread that gnomepilot2 depends on gnome-panel and not evo thx for ur help seb > Joe > > > > > seb > > > > (...) > > > > ___ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:26, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:06, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:06, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > > hi, > > > so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution > > > right ? thats bad :( ... i wonder if all these dependencies are really > > > necessary ... > > > > Everything Evo ropes in (except for gnomepilot2) is a required > > dependency (basically libgnomeui and all of its dependencies, gtkhtml3, > > gal2, and libsoup). > > so to be more precise: > > $ cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution > $ make pretty-print-build-depends-list > > This port requires package(s) "ORBit2-2.8.2 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.3.0 > XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0 XFree86-libraries-4.3.0_6 Xft-2.1.2 atk-1.4.1 > bison-1.75_1 docbook-sk-4.1.2 docbook-xml-4.2_1 docbook-xsl-1.62.3 > esound-0.2.32_1 expat-1.95.6_1 fontconfig-2.2.90_3 freetype2-2.1.5_1 > gail-1.4.1 gal2-1.99.10 gconf2-2.4.0.1 gettext-0.12.1 glib-2.2.3 > gmake-3.80_1 gnome-icon-theme-1.0.9 gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 > gnomehier-1.0_10 gnomemimedata-2.4.0 gnomepanel-2.4.1 gnomepilot2-2.0.10 > gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 gtk-2.2.4_1 gtkhtml3-3.0.9 imake-4.3.0_1 > intltool-0.27.2 jpeg-6b_1 libIDL-0.8.2 libart_lgpl2-2.3.16 > libaudiofile-0.2.4 libbonobo-2.4.1 libbonoboui-2.4.0 libglade2-2.0.1_1 > libgnome-2.4.0 libgnomecanvas-2.4.0 libgnomeprint-2.4.0 > libgnomeprintui-2.4.0 libgnomeui-2.4.0.1_1 libiconv-1.9.1_3 > libsoup-1.99.26 libwnck-2.4.0.1 libxml2-2.5.11 libxslt-1.0.33 linc-1.0.3 > m4-1.4_1 pango-1.2.5 perl-5.6.1_14 pilot-link-0.11.7_2 pkgconfig-0.15.0 > png-1.2.5_2 popt-1.6.4_1 py23-expat-2.3.2_2 python-2.3.2 > scrollkeeper-0.3.12_2,1 sdocbook-xml-4.1.2.5_1 > startup-notification-0.5_1 tcl-8.3.5_2 tiff-3.6.0 tk-8.3.5_2 > xmlcatmgr-1.1" to build. > > so do i really have to install e.g.: > gconf2-2.4.0.1 > gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 > gnomepanel-2.4.1 > gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 > ... > > and i guess the deps of these ports too ... No. Please re-read my previous emails. If you define -DWITHOUT_PILOT, you will not have to build gnomepilot2, and thus not have to build gnomepanel or gnomedesktop. Joe > > seb > > (...) > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 20:06, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:06, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > hi, > > so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution > > right ? thats bad :( ... i wonder if all these dependencies are really > > necessary ... > > Everything Evo ropes in (except for gnomepilot2) is a required > dependency (basically libgnomeui and all of its dependencies, gtkhtml3, > gal2, and libsoup). so to be more precise: $ cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution $ make pretty-print-build-depends-list This port requires package(s) "ORBit2-2.8.2 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.3.0 XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0 XFree86-libraries-4.3.0_6 Xft-2.1.2 atk-1.4.1 bison-1.75_1 docbook-sk-4.1.2 docbook-xml-4.2_1 docbook-xsl-1.62.3 esound-0.2.32_1 expat-1.95.6_1 fontconfig-2.2.90_3 freetype2-2.1.5_1 gail-1.4.1 gal2-1.99.10 gconf2-2.4.0.1 gettext-0.12.1 glib-2.2.3 gmake-3.80_1 gnome-icon-theme-1.0.9 gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 gnomehier-1.0_10 gnomemimedata-2.4.0 gnomepanel-2.4.1 gnomepilot2-2.0.10 gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 gtk-2.2.4_1 gtkhtml3-3.0.9 imake-4.3.0_1 intltool-0.27.2 jpeg-6b_1 libIDL-0.8.2 libart_lgpl2-2.3.16 libaudiofile-0.2.4 libbonobo-2.4.1 libbonoboui-2.4.0 libglade2-2.0.1_1 libgnome-2.4.0 libgnomecanvas-2.4.0 libgnomeprint-2.4.0 libgnomeprintui-2.4.0 libgnomeui-2.4.0.1_1 libiconv-1.9.1_3 libsoup-1.99.26 libwnck-2.4.0.1 libxml2-2.5.11 libxslt-1.0.33 linc-1.0.3 m4-1.4_1 pango-1.2.5 perl-5.6.1_14 pilot-link-0.11.7_2 pkgconfig-0.15.0 png-1.2.5_2 popt-1.6.4_1 py23-expat-2.3.2_2 python-2.3.2 scrollkeeper-0.3.12_2,1 sdocbook-xml-4.1.2.5_1 startup-notification-0.5_1 tcl-8.3.5_2 tiff-3.6.0 tk-8.3.5_2 xmlcatmgr-1.1" to build. so do i really have to install e.g.: gconf2-2.4.0.1 gnomevfs2-2.4.1_1 gnomepanel-2.4.1 gnomedesktop-2.4.1.1_1 ... and i guess the deps of these ports too ... seb (...) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:06, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > hi, > so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution > right ? thats bad :( ... i wonder if all these dependencies are really > necessary ... Everything Evo ropes in (except for gnomepilot2) is a required dependency (basically libgnomeui and all of its dependencies, gtkhtml3, gal2, and libsoup). Joe > > anyway: thx for ur help > seb > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 18:38, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 13:17, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > > On Sunday 02 November 2003 19:00, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > > > > > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > > > > > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > > > > > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > > > > > > > > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > > > > > gnome-desktop, ..., please? > > > > > > > > It doesn't. However, it does optionally depend on gnomepilot2 which > > > > depends on gnomepanel. You can build Evo with -DWITHOUT_PILOT to remove > > > > that dependency. > > > > > > > > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed ( > > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > > > I don't think so! > > > > Of course there is. Read what I wrote previously. The GNOME Desktop > > itself consists of the actual gnomedesktop port, and everything that > > depends on it. Evolution does not depend on this port. Evolution does, > > however, depend on the GNOME Development Suite which is quite different > > that the whole desktop. > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? > > > > > > > > Of course. Just launch it under another desktop. > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > seb > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution without gnome
hi, so i have to install a lot of gnome stuff to be able to use evolution right ? thats bad :( ... i wonder if all these dependencies are really necessary ... anyway: thx for ur help seb On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 18:38, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 13:17, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > > On Sunday 02 November 2003 19:00, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > > > hi, > > > > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > > > > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > > > > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > > > > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > > > > > > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > > > > gnome-desktop, ..., please? > > > > > > It doesn't. However, it does optionally depend on gnomepilot2 which > > > depends on gnomepanel. You can build Evo with -DWITHOUT_PILOT to remove > > > that dependency. > > > > > > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed ( > > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > > I don't think so! > > Of course there is. Read what I wrote previously. The GNOME Desktop > itself consists of the actual gnomedesktop port, and everything that > depends on it. Evolution does not depend on this port. Evolution does, > however, depend on the GNOME Development Suite which is quite different > that the whole desktop. > > Joe > > > > > > > > > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? > > > > > > Of course. Just launch it under another desktop. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > thx > > > > seb > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 13:17, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: > On Sunday 02 November 2003 19:00, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > > hi, > > > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > > > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > > > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > > > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > > > > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > > > gnome-desktop, ..., please? > > > > It doesn't. However, it does optionally depend on gnomepilot2 which > > depends on gnomepanel. You can build Evo with -DWITHOUT_PILOT to remove > > that dependency. > > > > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed ( > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > I don't think so! Of course there is. Read what I wrote previously. The GNOME Desktop itself consists of the actual gnomedesktop port, and everything that depends on it. Evolution does not depend on this port. Evolution does, however, depend on the GNOME Development Suite which is quite different that the whole desktop. Joe > > > > > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? > > > > Of course. Just launch it under another desktop. > > > > Joe > > > > > thx > > > seb > > > > > > ___ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sunday 02 November 2003 19:00, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > > hi, > > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > > gnome-desktop, ..., please? > > It doesn't. However, it does optionally depend on gnomepilot2 which > depends on gnomepanel. You can build Evo with -DWITHOUT_PILOT to remove > that dependency. > > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed ( ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ I don't think so! > > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? > > Of course. Just launch it under another desktop. > > Joe > > > thx > > seb > > > > ___ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 08:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > hi, > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > gnome-desktop, ..., please? It doesn't. However, it does optionally depend on gnomepilot2 which depends on gnomepanel. You can build Evo with -DWITHOUT_PILOT to remove that dependency. > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed (i > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? Of course. Just launch it under another desktop. Joe > > thx > seb > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution without gnome
On Sunday 02 November 2003 14:46, sebastian ssmoller wrote: > hi, > recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as > desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look > at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on > the whole gnome2 desktop (!) > > can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, > gnome-desktop, ..., please? Well, it's a Outlook clone so perhaps it has to be as bloated ;-) SCNR > > is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed (i > googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? Quiet sure: No -Harry > > thx > seb > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Evolution without gnome
hi, recently i set up a new freebsd current. i want to use xfce4 as desktop/window manager but also evolution as mail client. i had a look at the dependencies of evolution and found out that evolution depends on the whole gnome2 desktop (!) can anyone explain me why evolution depends on things like gnome-panel, gnome-desktop, ..., please? is there any way to use evolution without gnome-desktop installed (i googled a bit but havnt found any useful information yet) ? thx seb ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
