FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Modulok
List,

Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

1) FreeBSD friendly.
2) Isn't a portable skillet?
3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.

Every laptop I've used in the past has had terrible overheating
problems. If one places a 'laptop' in their lap, it overheats,
possibly burning the legs of the operator with prolonged use. I want a
laptop, not a laptop attached to a desk or a board with fans in it, or
the need to hunt down a desk so I can set my laptop on the desktop,
effectively creating a desktop. I want to be able to set the laptop on
top of my lap. (Hard to imagine.)

The last laptop I had was a gateway, which when held by the corner
would creak and sag and overheated constantly. The Toshiba was
sturdier, but had equally atrocious ventilation and overheating
problems.

I was originally thinking about a thinkpad, like a T20 or T30, but
word on the street is that thinkpads overheat too?

Does such a thing exist?
-Modulok-
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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Lednev

Modulok пишет:

List,

Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

1) FreeBSD friendly.
2) Isn't a portable skillet?
3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.


I'd go for IBM T4x one. Mine is T42, no problems with onboard devices or 
overheating. These ones sold on ebay for about 400 USD, I don't know 
whether its too expensive or not.

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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 06:04:37AM -0700, Modulok wrote:

 Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
 inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:
 
 1) FreeBSD friendly.
 2) Isn't a portable skillet?
 3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.

I would also recommend the IBM Thinkpad T41 or T42 (not T43p).

bye,
Uwe

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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Conner Finlay
For something more portable, check out the ThinkPad X40 series. I love
my little X40.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Uwe Laverenz u...@laverenz.de wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 06:04:37AM -0700, Modulok wrote:

 Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
 inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

 1) FreeBSD friendly.
 2) Isn't a portable skillet?
 3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.

 I would also recommend the IBM Thinkpad T41 or T42 (not T43p).

 bye,
 Uwe

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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Steven Kreuzer


On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Modulok wrote:


List,

Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

1) FreeBSD friendly.
2) Isn't a portable skillet?
3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging  
plastic.


It hasn't been released yet, but iX systems is working on a BSD laptop
called the INVINCIBOOK that seems to meet all your requirements.

http://www.ixsystems.com/virtuemart/5.html

--
Steven Kreuzer
http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer

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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:54:49 -0500, Steven Kreuzer skreu...@exit2shell.com 
wrote:
 It hasn't been released yet, but iX systems is working on a BSD laptop
 called the INVINCIBOOK that seems to meet all your requirements.
 
 http://www.ixsystems.com/virtuemart/5.html

Hey, looks nice, but at a first glance I miss a trackpoint (which
I personally prefer over a glidepad) and a third mouse button (which
is essential). Furthermore, the keyboard seems to have those
unfriendly MICROS~1 advertising keys. :-)

Specifications look very well, so it may be well to say that such
a device can be in use for several years. It's intended to run
PC-BSD 1.x / FreeBSD 6.x, so there's a good chance that it will
work with a 7.x FreeBSD, too.

But too expensive (in my opinion)...



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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread George Hartzell
Uwe Laverenz writes:
  On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 06:04:37AM -0700, Modulok wrote:
  
   Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
   inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:
   
   1) FreeBSD friendly.
   2) Isn't a portable skillet?
   3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging 
   plastic.
  
  I would also recommend the IBM Thinkpad T41 or T42 (not T43p).

I'll chime in to say that my T42p works well.

g.
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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:
 List,

 Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
 inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

 1) FreeBSD friendly.
 2) Isn't a portable skillet?
 3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.


My dell inspiron 9400 works quite well, except for
1. Card reader
2. Suspend/resume

It does get a bit warm, but not more than when I am running windows.
Battery time was also pretty much the same

It's no longer in production, but i believe the replacements are the
inspiron 1720 and the xps 1730

I am not sure if the newer 4965 802.11n wifi chipset that are
currently available would be supported, but you could opt for the 3945
-- 
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http://lisphacker.org
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Re: FreeBSD-friendly laptop suggestions, but wait there's more...

2009-01-08 Thread eculp

Quoting Gautham Ganapathy gaut...@lisphacker.org:


On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote:

List,

Does anyone know of a laptop, preferably an older model so it's
inexpensive, (It doesn't have to be very fast.), that is:

As I mentioned in another thread, I just bought a Lenovo S10 with Atom  
processor 512k cache and 1G memory, 10+ screen, feels very solid, best  
scratch pad I've ever used and cost 399 dls.


I haven't put unix on it.  I'm probably going to buy another.  I gave  
this one to my wife for her iTunes and iPhone (cheaper than MAC :( )  
and while setting it up I was very pleasantly surprised at how solid  
it was and with great performance under XP that comes with it.


ed


1) FreeBSD friendly.
2) Isn't a portable skillet?
3) Is physically sturdy. Not bulletproof, but not creaking, sagging plastic.



My dell inspiron 9400 works quite well, except for
1. Card reader
2. Suspend/resume

It does get a bit warm, but not more than when I am running windows.
Battery time was also pretty much the same

It's no longer in production, but i believe the replacements are the
inspiron 1720 and the xps 1730

I am not sure if the newer 4965 802.11n wifi chipset that are
currently available would be supported, but you could opt for the 3945
--
Gautham Ganapathy
http://lisphacker.org
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