RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Peter Schuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:02 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Chris; Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 The people complaining about hardware

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Schuller
The people complaining about hardware compatibility need to pull their heads out. If they are buying brand new systems they are utter fools if they don't check out in advance what works and what doesen't. It's not like there's a shortage of experienced people on this list who could tell

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Simon Dircks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:27 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Peter Losher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-08 Thread Al Plant
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Simon Dircks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:27 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Peter Losher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Ted Mittelstaedt

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Peter Losher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:18 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Yeah, ISC just hates FreeBSD... rolls eyes

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-07 Thread Simon Dircks
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Losher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:18 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Yeah, ISC just hates FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
* I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC configuration but have not yet found the cause. It's called Anti-FreeBSD bias. You won't find anything. If this is true, please try to explain to me the following: - ISC hosts 5 Netra 1s that comprise most of our sparc64 package

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-04 Thread Chris
On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Device drivers and hardware are a cooperative effort. The ideal is a well-written device driver and well-designed hardware. Unfortunately the reality of it appears to be that it costs a LOT more money to hire good silicon designers

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-03 Thread Peter Losher
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: My beef with the DNS tests was that ISC ran out and bought the hardware FIRST, -then- they started testing. This is directly contrary to every bit of advice ever given in the computer industry for the last 50 years - you select the software FIRST, -then- you buy the

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:21 PM To: Adrian Chadd Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 On 01/03/2008, Adrian Chadd

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Chris wrote: Ironically the latest server I got last night has a intel pro 1000 a rarity :) I am just giving feedback as when I speak to people in the datacentre and hosting business the biggest gripe with freebsd is hardware compatability, as I adore freebsd I ignore

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 02:20:58AM +, Chris wrote: On 01/03/2008, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well as it does in other operating systems just because its

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Oliver Herold
] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver Herold wrote: Hi, I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago, http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is this something

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 10:44 AM 2/29/2008, Chris wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the operating system properly when I think its

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 29/02/2008, Tom Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 15:44 +, Chris wrote: On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:45 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Sam Leffler; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Oliver Herold; Kris Kennaway; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 A weakness

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Tom Evans
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 15:44 +, Chris wrote: On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Fred C
On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Chris wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the operating system properly when I think its

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 01/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well as it does in other operating systems just because its cheaper its not an excuse for buggy performance. There is also other good network cards apart from intel pro 1000. I

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 01/03/2008, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/2008, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well as it does in other operating systems just because its cheaper its not an excuse for buggy performance. There is also

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
Adrian Chadd wrote: (Sorry for top posting.) Its not actually -that- bad an idea to compare different applications. It sets the bar for how far the entire system {hardware, OS, application, network} can be pushed. If nsd beats bind9 by say 5 or 10% over all, then its nothing to write home

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
in FreeBSD 7 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:57 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 * I am trying

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Sam Leffler
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver Herold wrote: Hi, I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread O. Hartmann
Kris Kennaway wrote: [SCHNIPP] * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. will this patch also be available for 7.0? Regards, Oliver ___

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
O. Hartmann wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: [SCHNIPP] * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. will this patch also be available for 7.0? If you mean will it be merged to RELENG_7, absolutely. If you mean

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver Herold wrote: Hi

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Oliver Herold
Hi, I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago, http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is this something verified only for the state of development back in August 2007? --Oliver -- QOTD: Ludwig Boltzmann, who

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
Oliver Herold wrote: Hi, I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago, http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is this something verified only for the state of development back in August 2007? I have been trying to

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Chris
* 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. Kris can you say anything more about interrupt workload bugs on ULE? On all my 7.0 servers I now am using ULE even on the UP ones as it was said there is slight

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
Chris wrote: * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. Kris can you say anything more about interrupt workload bugs on ULE? On all my 7.0 servers I now am using ULE even on the UP ones as it was said there is