Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-06 Thread RW
On Thursday 05 October 2006 02:39, backyard wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu Compiler
 Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
 FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
 programmers out there can point me to some decent
 books/online resources for learning the basics and
 more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
 useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to be
 the standard gnats supports.

When I did an ADA course, Barnes's Programming in Ada 95 was the standard 
text. That was about 8 years ago, but it's gone to a second edition since 
then.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Ada-2nd-John-Barnes/dp/0201342936/
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-06 Thread backyard


--- RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 05 October 2006 02:39, backyard wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
 Compiler
  Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
  FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
  programmers out there can point me to some decent
  books/online resources for learning the basics and
  more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
  useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
 be
  the standard gnats supports.
 
 When I did an ADA course, Barnes's Programming in
 Ada 95 was the standard 
 text. That was about 8 years ago, but it's gone to a
 second edition since 
 then.
 

Thanks, Although it seems to get mixed reviews...
Everyone says it isn't for beginners and some flat out
blast the book. The biggest problem they say is it
reads like a specification manual. I write specs at
work so thats not a big deal to me, and nothing is
more fun then looking through the IBC or NEC...

I understand the basics of object oriented
programming, classes, constructors, destructors but
the syntax and semantics keeps me from writing C++
now...

Does the book read like a specification manual or a
tutorial? Honestly I would almost prefer the
specification manual, I hate getting talked down
too... But on the other hand incomprehensible specs
aren't too good either.

-brian
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Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread backyard
Hello All,

I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu Compiler
Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
programmers out there can point me to some decent
books/online resources for learning the basics and
more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to be
the standard gnats supports.

 I would also be interested in resources that describe
integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate of a
term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly be
for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get that
far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
libraries for any of the above.

I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything and
a search online would comes up with millions of books
that may or may not be useful. 

I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't even
seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...

thanks,

-brian


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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu Compiler
 Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
 FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
 programmers out there can point me to some decent
 books/online resources for learning the basics and
 more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
 useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to be
 the standard gnats supports.

  I would also be interested in resources that describe
 integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate of a
 term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly be
 for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
 whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get that
 far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
 crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
 libraries for any of the above.

 I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything and
 a search online would comes up with millions of books
 that may or may not be useful.

 I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't even
 seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...

I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on bind is the best one. 
Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple of days. They even get 
them that fast up here in Alaska.

Beech
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread backyard


--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
 Compiler
  Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
  FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
  programmers out there can point me to some decent
  books/online resources for learning the basics and
  more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
  useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
 be
  the standard gnats supports.
 
   I would also be interested in resources that
 describe
  integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate
 of a
  term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly
 be
  for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
  whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get
 that
  far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
  crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
  libraries for any of the above.
 
  I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything
 and
  a search online would comes up with millions of
 books
  that may or may not be useful.
 
  I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't
 even
  seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
 
 I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on
 bind is the best one. 
 Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple
 of days. They even get 
 them that fast up here in Alaska.
 
 Beech

thanks, thats the one I was looking for and certain
I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I had
no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight which
is what took me hours to find last time amungst the
books on bind...

the luck of the irish is a lie...

does that book cover running bind within a jail? or
just the general configuration of the service?

-brian

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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
 --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
   Hello All,
  
   I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
 
  Compiler
 
   Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
   FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
   programmers out there can point me to some decent
   books/online resources for learning the basics and
   more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
   useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
 
  be
 
   the standard gnats supports.
  
I would also be interested in resources that
 
  describe
 
   integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate
 
  of a
 
   term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly
 
  be
 
   for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
   whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get
 
  that
 
   far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
   crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
   libraries for any of the above.
  
   I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything
 
  and
 
   a search online would comes up with millions of
 
  books
 
   that may or may not be useful.
  
   I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't
 
  even
 
   seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
 
  I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on
  bind is the best one.
  Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple
  of days. They even get
  them that fast up here in Alaska.
 
  Beech

 thanks, thats the one I was looking for and certain
 I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I had
 no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight which
 is what took me hours to find last time amungst the
 books on bind...

 the luck of the irish is a lie...

 does that book cover running bind within a jail? or
 just the general configuration of the service?

I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the office so I can't say for sure. 
However, the book  is VERY detailed about all aspects of bind. It really is a 
must read for anyone serious about running nameservers. For example, it shows 
you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve your entire inside lan, 
but outside it will only resolve the servers you choose. It's also is very 
detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.

Beech
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread backyard


--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
  --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard
 wrote:
Hello All,
   
I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
  
   Compiler
  
Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an
 i386
FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any
 ADA
programmers out there can point me to some
 decent
books/online resources for learning the basics
 and
more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be
 most
useful if they referenced ADA95 as that
 appears to
  
   be
  
the standard gnats supports.
   
 I would also be interested in resources that
  
   describe
  
integrating (I guess linking is more
 appropriate
  
   of a
  
term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would
 mostly
  
   be
  
for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK,
 or
whatever makes the windows looks nice when I
 get
  
   that
  
far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS
 for
crunching numbers. Unless there exists some
 ADA
libraries for any of the above.
   
I went to Borders today and couldn't find
 anything
  
   and
  
a search online would comes up with millions
 of
  
   books
  
that may or may not be useful.
   
I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I
 couldn't
  
   even
  
seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
  
   I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book
 on
   bind is the best one.
   Borders can order it and get it to you in a
 couple
   of days. They even get
   them that fast up here in Alaska.
  
   Beech
 
  thanks, thats the one I was looking for and
 certain
  I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I
 had
  no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight
 which
  is what took me hours to find last time amungst
 the
  books on bind...
 
  the luck of the irish is a lie...
 
  does that book cover running bind within a jail?
 or
  just the general configuration of the service?
 
 I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the
 office so I can't say for sure. 
 However, the book  is VERY detailed about all
 aspects of bind. It really is a 
 must read for anyone serious about running
 nameservers. For example, it shows 
 you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve
 your entire inside lan, 
 but outside it will only resolve the servers you
 choose. It's also is very 
 detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.
 
 Beech
 -- 

that is one of the things I wanted to know how to do
properly... This is Just O'Rielly; Bind or is it one
of those in a nutshells books. Just want to make sure
before I pick up the wrong one. I trust it covers
version 9? if you don't mind and can remember when you
get back to the office can you send the ISBN just in
case I need to order it.

or a quick search on Amazon came up with
DNS and Bind 5th edition
by Cricket Lui and Paul Albitz
O'Reilly Publishing

is this the one your refering too?


-brian
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 20:20, backyard wrote:
 --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
   --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard
 
  wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
   
Compiler
   
 Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an
 
  i386
 
 FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any
 
  ADA
 
 programmers out there can point me to some
 
  decent
 
 books/online resources for learning the basics
 
  and
 
 more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be
 
  most
 
 useful if they referenced ADA95 as that
 
  appears to
 
be
   
 the standard gnats supports.

  I would also be interested in resources that
   
describe
   
 integrating (I guess linking is more
 
  appropriate
 
of a
   
 term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would
 
  mostly
 
be
   
 for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK,
 
  or
 
 whatever makes the windows looks nice when I
 
  get
 
that
   
 far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS
 
  for
 
 crunching numbers. Unless there exists some
 
  ADA
 
 libraries for any of the above.

 I went to Borders today and couldn't find
 
  anything
 
and
   
 a search online would comes up with millions
 
  of
 
books
   
 that may or may not be useful.

 I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I
 
  couldn't
 
even
   
 seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
   
I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book
 
  on
 
bind is the best one.
Borders can order it and get it to you in a
 
  couple
 
of days. They even get
them that fast up here in Alaska.
   
Beech
  
   thanks, thats the one I was looking for and
 
  certain
 
   I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I
 
  had
 
   no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight
 
  which
 
   is what took me hours to find last time amungst
 
  the
 
   books on bind...
  
   the luck of the irish is a lie...
  
   does that book cover running bind within a jail?
 
  or
 
   just the general configuration of the service?
 
  I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the
  office so I can't say for sure.
  However, the book  is VERY detailed about all
  aspects of bind. It really is a
  must read for anyone serious about running
  nameservers. For example, it shows
  you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve
  your entire inside lan,
  but outside it will only resolve the servers you
  choose. It's also is very
  detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.
 
  Beech
  --

 that is one of the things I wanted to know how to do
 properly... This is Just O'Rielly; Bind or is it one
 of those in a nutshells books. Just want to make sure
 before I pick up the wrong one. I trust it covers
 version 9? if you don't mind and can remember when you
 get back to the office can you send the ISBN just in
 case I need to order it.

 or a quick search on Amazon came up with
 DNS and Bind 5th edition
 by Cricket Lui and Paul Albitz
 O'Reilly Publishing

 is this the one your refering too?

Yes, that's the right book.

Beech

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