Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-28 Thread Kalashnikov Ilya
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 13:58 +, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
 
 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
 
 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
 
 Soo-Hyun


read script output!
Not enough space ...  Please set the MC_TMPDIR variable to a
location that has at least 200 MB of free space...
1.  you_prompt$ setenv MC_TMPDIR /path/to/temp/folder/where/enough/space
2.  run script again
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How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
Hi,

I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.

My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)

Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?

Soo-Hyun
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:58 am, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.

 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)

 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?

 Soo-Hyun

The work areas are probably whats killing you. I don't know how you can 
manage them with the  upgrade shell script, you will have to look 
through the script to determine that.  Somehow or another you need to
make sure after each port is updated its work area is being cleaned 
before moving on to the next port.  

One thing you may want to consider is setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp 
in /etc/make.conf this way you can monitor the size of /tmp with du and 
then maybe manually delete the work areas of ports you are certain have 
been updated.

-Mike
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
Hi,
I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
Soo-Hyun
 

Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?
Could you show us the output of df, the output of
cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
warning message you refer to?
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread RW
On Thursday 17 March 2005 16:16, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
 
 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
 
 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
 
 Soo-Hyun

 Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?

 Could you show us the output of df, the output of
 cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
 warning message you refer to?

And take a look at

du -hs /usr/ports/distfiles/ /usr/ports/packages

You shouldn't really need any packages. And you can manage distfiles with 
portsclean (installed with portupgrade). 

Left unmanaged they can quickly mount up to several GB. A full set of 
up-to-date files for a desktop machine should take up about a 1 GB. 
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
Well, I have just formatted the portion that FreeBSD is placed. And I
have just been reinstalling the whole system again. I found that the
disk shortage does not come from gnome but from OpenOffice 1.1
installation.

Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space? (If it does, how much large?)

For your reference, I have partitioned (and labeled) the disk by using
Auto Allocation(?) option in FreeBSD disk labeler.

Thank you.
Soo-Hyun


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:16:55 -0600, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering how much HDD space does FreeBSD need in a normal
 installation. What I mean by the normal installation includes 'Full
 X-Development' packages with Gnome. Oh, It's 5.3-RELEASE.
 
 My HDD has 10G space for FreeBSD and I installed onto that space. The
 FreeBSD installation was of no problem. However, once I tried to
 upgrade Gnome 2.8 to 2.10, I've faced up a warning message at some
 point that I am running out of HDD space. (I just executed the
 recommend upgrade shell script from http://www.FreeBSD.org/gonme/)
 
 Is 10G HDD space is not good enough?
 
 Soo-Hyun
 
 
 
 Well, it *should* be plenty.  How did you partition the drive?
 
 Could you show us the output of df, the output of
 cat /etc/fstab, and give the text and context of the
 warning message you refer to?
 
 Kevin Kinsey

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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Rob
Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 
 Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space?
 (If it does, how much large?)

 $ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
 198M/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4


I have it installed from the package, otherwise
it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space
in /usr/ports.

R.



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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Soo-Hyun Choi
What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the package? Did you
mean it by going through FreeBSD ports (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I
install OpenOffice from the package?

SH-

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0800 (PST), Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:
 
  Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space?
  (If it does, how much large?)
 
 $ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
 198M/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
 
 I have it installed from the package, otherwise
 it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space
 in /usr/ports.
 
 R.
 
 
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Thomas Foster
http://oootranslation.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/ooomisc/FreeBSD/
download the tgz and pkg_add it..
Check out the handbook on more information about ports and packages if need 
be..

T
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What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the package? Did you
mean it by going through FreeBSD ports (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I
install OpenOffice from the package?
SH-
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:38:57 -0800 (PST), Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:

 Then, would OpenOffice require a large HDD space?
 (If it does, how much large?)
$ du -hs /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
198M/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.4
I have it installed from the package, otherwise
it requires an enormous amount of work/compile space
in /usr/ports.
R.
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Re: How much HDD space does FreeBSD need?

2005-03-17 Thread Rob

--- Soo-Hyun Choi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do you mean by installing OpenOffice from the
 package? Did you
 mean it by going through FreeBSD ports
 (/usr/ports/...)? Or how do I
 install OpenOffice from the package?

Download the .tgz file yourself and install the
package manually; or install portupgrade from
ports, and then do:

 portinstall -PP openoffice

The -PP enforces to install from package collection
only.

Rob.



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Magical HDD Space Doubling! wonky bsdlabel?

2004-10-04 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
The other day I decided to dispose of a drive's worth of WinNT data
in order to make more FreeBSD machines in the world (cheer!)
In the past I've often used sysinstall for this purpose, so I decided
to try the other method suggested by the handbook.  I think I got
a little funky with bsdlabel, though.  Check this out:
   % dmesg | grep ad
   GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc5f54660
   ad0: 38166MB ST340014A [77545/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
   GEOM: create disk ad1 dp=0xc5f54360
   ad1: 190782MB WDC WD2000JB-00GVA0 [387621/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100
   GEOM: create disk ad3 dp=0xc6020960
   ad3: 38166MB ST340015A [77545/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
   Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
Note that both ad1 and ad3 report 38166 MB disks.
Now, the only thing I intended to be different on the
new disk (ad3) was that it be dangerously dedicated
and have its own /tmp partition (ad1 has tmp on /).
However:
% df -h
FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a989M   151M   759M17%/
devfs   1.0K   1.0K 0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e34G20G11G66%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d   989M   275M   635M30%/var
/dev/ad1s1d   180G60G   106G36%/backup
/dev/ad3a   36G   614M33G 2%/mnt
/dev/ad3b  496M29M   427M 6%/mnt2
/dev/ad3d  989M   273M   637M30%/mnt3
/dev/ad3e  34G20G11G66%/mnt4
So, ad3 is ~72GB?? ... I'd gladly take the extra space,
but it can't really be there, can it?
Here's the bsdlabel output, and a uname.  Can
anyone tell me what I did wrong (other than the obvious,
being proceeding to use bsdlabel without a thorough handle
on what I was doing ... :-o )
% sudo bsdlabel ad0s1
# /dev/ad0s1:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a:  209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 b:  1048576  2097152  swap   
 c: 781561620unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't edit
 d:  2097152  31457284.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 e: 72913282  52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552

% sudo bsdlabel ad3
# /dev/ad3:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a:  209715204.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 b:  1048576  2097152  swap   
 c: 781653600unused0 0 # raw part, 
don't edit
 d:  2097152  31457284.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 e: 72913282  52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552

The only difference in the labels is ad3c, which I increased
manually (trial  error) because bsdlabel kept complaining
partition c doesn't cover entire unit until I got up to
78165360 ...
%uname -aFreeBSD archangel.daleco.biz 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p3 #2: Fri Apr 23 16:39:28 CDT 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

[Gee, I thought I'd built world since then...]
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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HDD space

2004-01-19 Thread Quinn Ellis
Hello all.

I have a 120gig drive i'm trying to install freeBSD onto the end of.
i have two 51gig windows slices, and one unformatted slice of 10gig.
FreeBSD is reporting this as only about 5 gig, after it recommends its own 
settings. I have tried to set it as per the BIOS, but this doesn't seem to 
help.

Any ideas.

Quinn

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Re: HDD space

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 19 January 2004 10:03 am, Quinn Ellis wrote:
 Hello all.

 I have a 120gig drive i'm trying to install freeBSD onto the end of.
 i have two 51gig windows slices, and one unformatted slice of 10gig.

 FreeBSD is reporting this as only about 5 gig, after it recommends its own
 settings. I have tried to set it as per the BIOS, but this doesn't seem to
 help.

 Any ideas.

 Quinn

The advertised 120GB is measured using the marketing standard (those damned 
marketers) of 1 Kilobyte = 1,000 bytes -- not 1Kilobyte = 1,024 bytes; so 
you'll never get a full 120GB under any operating system.  You can confirm 
this by reading the small print on various hard drives' retail boxes.  It 
looks like your system is seeing a total of 117GB, which is what I'm getting 
here.

Sorry for the bad news,

Andrew Gould

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