Re: I'd like to do my bit to support FreeBSD

2007-02-06 Thread Jim Stapleton

Thanks, that doesn't look like a challange at all. Guess I'll have
some fun with it when I get home.

-Jim Stapleton

On 2/6/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In response to "Jim Stapleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've found quite a few tricks and techniques for handling FreeBSD's
> ports system when things go south. I'd like to add them to the
> handbook, adding, lets say "4.5.6 - When Ports Attack".
>
> OK, really it'd be more along the lines of "4.5.6 - Installing Ports
> When Things Go Wrong"
>
> It would give hints that I've aquired over time from the mailing list,
> or my own use:
> 1) config-recursive (my most recent gem aquired from you nice people!)
> 2) Keeping flag-sets in your make.conf (basically several sets of
> CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, so if something fails, you can quickly try something
> else)
> 3) How to remove a broken dependancy (read: how to figure the next
> port up, the list, and then configure that port to remove the
> dependancy)
> 4) Rolling back your ports tree to an earlier date or dates, but
> globally or one port at a time
> 5) determining which step will fix your problem.
>
>
> Now, as far as I know this would requre:
> 1) Downloading the doc group of the ports tree to it's own special
> directory, keeping the CVS flags in tact - I should be able to do this
> 2) Editing the file of interest - trivial beyond belief
> 3) ??Generating the file??

Start here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

As you read through that, you'll probably be pleasantly surprised how
well organized and automated everything is.  I know I was.

> 4) ??Submitting the diffs??

Also covered in the above link.

Once you've generated your docs (step #3) you can post your modified
copy to your personal website and direct people to it to get feedback
and suggestions.  There's also a dedicated mailing list for the
documentation project:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc
which was very helpful when I was doing my first submits.

Thanks for stepping up to help out!

--
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.


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Re: I'd like to do my bit to support FreeBSD

2007-02-06 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "Jim Stapleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've found quite a few tricks and techniques for handling FreeBSD's
> ports system when things go south. I'd like to add them to the
> handbook, adding, lets say "4.5.6 - When Ports Attack".
> 
> OK, really it'd be more along the lines of "4.5.6 - Installing Ports
> When Things Go Wrong"
> 
> It would give hints that I've aquired over time from the mailing list,
> or my own use:
> 1) config-recursive (my most recent gem aquired from you nice people!)
> 2) Keeping flag-sets in your make.conf (basically several sets of
> CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, so if something fails, you can quickly try something
> else)
> 3) How to remove a broken dependancy (read: how to figure the next
> port up, the list, and then configure that port to remove the
> dependancy)
> 4) Rolling back your ports tree to an earlier date or dates, but
> globally or one port at a time
> 5) determining which step will fix your problem.
> 
> 
> Now, as far as I know this would requre:
> 1) Downloading the doc group of the ports tree to it's own special
> directory, keeping the CVS flags in tact - I should be able to do this
> 2) Editing the file of interest - trivial beyond belief
> 3) ??Generating the file??

Start here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html

As you read through that, you'll probably be pleasantly surprised how
well organized and automated everything is.  I know I was.

> 4) ??Submitting the diffs??

Also covered in the above link.

Once you've generated your docs (step #3) you can post your modified
copy to your personal website and direct people to it to get feedback
and suggestions.  There's also a dedicated mailing list for the
documentation project:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc
which was very helpful when I was doing my first submits.

Thanks for stepping up to help out!

-- 
Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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I'd like to do my bit to support FreeBSD

2007-02-06 Thread Jim Stapleton

I've found quite a few tricks and techniques for handling FreeBSD's
ports system when things go south. I'd like to add them to the
handbook, adding, lets say "4.5.6 - When Ports Attack".

OK, really it'd be more along the lines of "4.5.6 - Installing Ports
When Things Go Wrong"

It would give hints that I've aquired over time from the mailing list,
or my own use:
1) config-recursive (my most recent gem aquired from you nice people!)
2) Keeping flag-sets in your make.conf (basically several sets of
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, so if something fails, you can quickly try something
else)
3) How to remove a broken dependancy (read: how to figure the next
port up, the list, and then configure that port to remove the
dependancy)
4) Rolling back your ports tree to an earlier date or dates, but
globally or one port at a time
5) determining which step will fix your problem.


Now, as far as I know this would requre:
1) Downloading the doc group of the ports tree to it's own special
directory, keeping the CVS flags in tact - I should be able to do this
2) Editing the file of interest - trivial beyond belief
3) ??Generating the file??
4) ??Submitting the diffs??
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