Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-25 Thread lawrence.petrykanyn

Hi, Manoliis:

I took your advice.  I copied the burned iso file into a FreeBSD directory 
and ran md5 and the check digits did not match.  I then copied my downloaded 
iso image from Win98 into FreeBSD and ran md5 and the digits did match.  So 
there was nothing wrong with the iso of disc1 that I downloaded from the web 
site into Win98.  It must have been the burning of the file in Win98 with 
Nero Express that was the problem.


So I burned another copy of the iso in FreeBSd with burncd using:
  burncd -f /dev/acd1 6.2-RELEASE-i386.iso fixate
and it booted just fine.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and advice.  Now I will be spending the 
better part of the weekend doing the installation of 6.2.  Wish me luck.


Have a great day,
Larry




From: Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:34:12 +0300

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,

   I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
   downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

   I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
   decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
   like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
   burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
   reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
   CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
   6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
   appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
   can't seem to boot from it.

   1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?

Could be that you are burning the file as a real file on a disk instead
of burning it as an image?
You need to select the option from your program that is similar to
create cd from iso image

   2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
   more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)

No. Instead you should check the file you already downloaded

   3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?

Not really, no

   4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
   corrupted?

Yes. From the site you downloaded the iso files, download the CHECKSUM
files as well.
There are two of them, CHEKSUM.md5 and CHECKSUM.SHA256
One would be enough to validate your download. For example look at the
CHECKSUM.md5 file:
For disk1, the checksum is:

MD5 (6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = 3d27214700687c0b5390e8b6dd3706e3

you can validate this with the md5 command from FreeBSD, or if you don't
wish to reboot from win98, here is and md5 command for windows:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/md5.zip

use something like:

md5 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso

and compare the output to the one on the file.
   BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
   FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
   i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.


I've bought stuff from them: copies of the handbook, tshirts, sticker,
beastie dolls :)
Good service.

   Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Larry
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Best of luck,

Manolis



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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-25 Thread Adam J Richardson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So I burned another copy of the iso in FreeBSd with burncd using:
  burncd -f /dev/acd1 6.2-RELEASE-i386.iso fixate
and it booted just fine.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and advice.  Now I will be spending 
the better part of the weekend doing the installation of 6.2.  Wish me 
luck.


Hurrah! :) Better part of a weekend, though? Oh well, mine not to reason 
why...


It occurs to me now that under Win98 you would have had to use the ASPI 
layer to burn your CD. Much as I loathe Nero, I found it was the ASPI 
layer that caused my problems. The ASPI layer [for whatever reason] 
tends to degrade over time until it's unusable. When I finally upgraded 
my systems to Windows 2000, I was able to use the SPTI layer, which I 
found far superior to ASPI.


It might be a good idea not to use Win98 for burning CDs any more. If 
you did decide to use a more recent version of Windows, I can recommend 
the freeware project Burnatonce, which is fully SPTI-capable.

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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-25 Thread Manolis Kiagias

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, Manoliis:

I took your advice.  I copied the burned iso file into a FreeBSD 
directory and ran md5 and the check digits did not match.  I then 
copied my downloaded iso image from Win98 into FreeBSD and ran md5 and 
the digits did match.  So there was nothing wrong with the iso of 
disc1 that I downloaded from the web site into Win98.  It must have 
been the burning of the file in Win98 with Nero Express that was the 
problem.


So I burned another copy of the iso in FreeBSd with burncd using:
  burncd -f /dev/acd1 6.2-RELEASE-i386.iso fixate
and it booted just fine.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and advice.  Now I will be spending 
the better part of the weekend doing the installation of 6.2.  Wish me 
luck.


Have a great day,
Larry


Glad I could be of help! Make sure to get some pizza and beer for your 
install party :)
I believe you will find 6.2 to be an excellent release, as most of us on 
this list do.


Take care,
Manolis
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Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread lawrence.petrykanyn


  Hi,

  I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
  downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

  I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
  decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
  like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
  burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
  reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
  CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
  6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
  appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
  can't seem to boot from it.

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?

  BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
  FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
  i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

  Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,
  Larry
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:49:30 +
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
Hi,
 
I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
downloaded it and burned it three times without success.
 
I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I
 had decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and
 would like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image
 and burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and
 that my CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
can't seem to boot from it.
 
1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
corrupted?

Larry,

Is there any error message, such as Read Error: 0x..., Could not find
Primary Volume Descriptor?

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Adam J Richardson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?


Hi Larry.

Could it be the quality of the media you're burning to? I don't know if 
it's still a problem, but it used to be. These days I always make sure 
to burn to Verbatim discs, as I've heard many good reports of their 
manufacturing process as compared to others. It could be that you've 
just got a bad batch of discs.


Here's another thought, why not try making a copy of your FreeBSD 5.4 
install disc? That should indicate whether the fault appears at download 
time or burn time.


HtH,
Adam J Richardson
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Manolis Kiagias
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi,

   I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
   downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

   I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
   decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
   like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
   burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
   reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
   CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
   6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
   appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
   can't seem to boot from it.

   1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?

Could be that you are burning the file as a real file on a disk instead
of burning it as an image?
You need to select the option from your program that is similar to
create cd from iso image

   2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
   more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)

No. Instead you should check the file you already downloaded

   3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?

Not really, no

   4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
   corrupted?

Yes. From the site you downloaded the iso files, download the CHECKSUM
files as well.
There are two of them, CHEKSUM.md5 and CHECKSUM.SHA256
One would be enough to validate your download. For example look at the
CHECKSUM.md5 file:
For disk1, the checksum is:

MD5 (6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso) = 3d27214700687c0b5390e8b6dd3706e3

you can validate this with the md5 command from FreeBSD, or if you don't
wish to reboot from win98, here is and md5 command for windows:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/md5.zip

use something like:

md5 6.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso

and compare the output to the one on the file.
   BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
   FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
   i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.


I've bought stuff from them: copies of the handbook, tshirts, sticker,
beastie dolls :)
Good service.

   Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

   Thanks,
   Larry
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Joao Barros
On 8/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
can't seem to boot from it.

1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
corrupted?

BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry

Do you have a Promise controller?
I have to disable my onboard Promise so that I can boot from a FreeBSD CD

My Promise:
atapci0: Promise PDC20319 SATA150 controller port
0xb000-0xb03f,0xb400-0xb40f,0xb800-0xb87f mem
0xfc024000-0xfc024fff,0xfc00-0xfc01 irq 23 at device 4.0 on
pci4

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0:   class=0x010400 card=0x80f51043 chip=0x3319105a
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc'
device = 'PDC20319(??) FastTrak SATA150 TX4 Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID

-- 
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Derek Ragona

At 12:49 PM 8/24/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi,

  I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
  downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

  I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
  decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
  like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
  burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
  reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
  CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
  6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
  appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
  can't seem to boot from it.

  1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
  2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
  more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
  3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
  4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
  corrupted?

  BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
  FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
  i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

  Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

  Thanks,
  Larry


Is the CD you burn readable under windows or FreeBSD?  If it is readable, 
check your BIOS settings and turnoff any video ram shadow, if it is turned on.


I have one older system which I thought had trouble booting the 6.2 
disc.  I tried my disc out on another system, and saw when this boots it 
puts up the FreeBSD boot menu, and waits for response.  After seeing this, 
and turning off the video shadow, I tried to boot it on my older server 
again.  This time I was seeing the bootmenu 10 second countdown, while none 
of the other boot menu was visible.  After hitting enter a couple times the 
countdown started ticking down, and the system booted and launched 
sysinstall.  I was able then to do a upgrade on this server from 5.5 to 6.2.


-Derek

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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 03:28:54PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:

 At 12:49 PM 8/24/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
   downloaded it and burned it three times without success.
 
   I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
   decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
   like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
   burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
   reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
   CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
   6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
   appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
   can't seem to boot from it.
 
   1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?
   2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
   more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)
   3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?
   4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
   corrupted?
 
   BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
   FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
   i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.
 
   Any suggestions, advice, or comments would be greatly appreciated.
 
   Thanks,
   Larry

One thing that comes to mind, besides things other people have said.   
When you burned the CD, did you tell the software to create a bootable ISO?
You shouldn't do that.  It is already a bootable ISO and needs to be 
burned as a 'raw' file, directly to the CD.   Having it try to make an ISO
of an already created ISO might still leave the rest of the files readable, 
so it might look OK to a quick check, but I don't know.  I haven't tried
that.

I don't know if the term 'raw' is the correct one, but definitely, you 
need to not use any option that tries to make a bootable ISO as that 
will mangle the boot stuff already on it.   

So, if that is the problem, you will have to burn another CD.  
It shouldn't matter if you burn it under MS-Win as long as it
doesn't try to create a bootable ISO from it first.

jerry

 
 Is the CD you burn readable under windows or FreeBSD?  If it is readable, 
 check your BIOS settings and turnoff any video ram shadow, if it is turned 
 on.
 
 I have one older system which I thought had trouble booting the 6.2 
 disc.  I tried my disc out on another system, and saw when this boots it 
 puts up the FreeBSD boot menu, and waits for response.  After seeing this, 
 and turning off the video shadow, I tried to boot it on my older server 
 again.  This time I was seeing the bootmenu 10 second countdown, while none 
 of the other boot menu was visible.  After hitting enter a couple times the 
 countdown started ticking down, and the system booted and launched 
 sysinstall.  I was able then to do a upgrade on this server from 5.5 to 6.2.
 
 -Derek
 
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Re: Installation Disc Won't Boot

2007-08-24 Thread Ian Smith
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:49:30 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am unable to boot from 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso.  I have
 downloaded it and burned it three times without success.

See (4)

 I am currently running Win98SE and FreeBSD 5.4 on a dual boot.  I had
 decided to reformat my hard drives so I reinstalled Win98SE and would
 like to install FreeBSD 6.2.  I downloaded the disc 1 iso image and
 burned it to a disc in Win98.  I had to boot from my CDrom to
 reinstall Win98 so I know that my boot priority is correct and that my
 CDrom is working properly.  I looked at the burned cd with the
 6.2-RELEASE i386-disc1.iso file on it in FreeBSD 5.4 and everything
 appears to be there, including a folder called 'boot'.  But I just
 can't seem to boot from it.
  
 1.  Is there something simple I'm missing?

Sounds like you might be just copying the .iso file to the CD, rather
than burning an image file from the .iso ? but it's not clear how you
'looked at it' from 5.4 .. what does it look like from W98?
 
 2.  Should I just try downloading (it takes four hours) and burning
 more copies again?  (I've already done it three times...)

See (4)

 3.  Is the fact that I'm burning it in Win98 a problem?

Shouldn't be; I've used both Adaptec CD whatsitcalled and Nero on '98
boxes to burn .iso files - but you do have to select the 'image' write,
and to be sure of a good burn maybe drop the write speed to say 4x 

If you've still got 5.4 installed you could use burncd(8) instead,
eg 'burncd -s 4 -f /dev/acd0 data fbsd6.2whatever.iso fixate' 

 4.  Is there anything I can do in FreeBSD 5.4 to see if the file is
 corrupted?

Yes; also download the (tiny) accompanying .md5 file, then you can run
md5(1) from FreeBSD 5.4 on the .iso file to check that its MD5 matches. 

When you look at the contents of the CD, either from W98 or from having
mounted it on FreeBSD 5.4, do you see files and directories on the CD,
or just the single .iso file?

 BTW - I installed FreeBSD 5.4 from discs that I purchased through
 FreeBSD Mall.  I thought I would do it from the 6.2-RELEASE
 i386-disc1.iso file on FreeBSD's web site this time.

Your burned image CD for 6.2 should look pretty much like your 5.4 CD in
structure.  If that's so and it still won't boot then you can try a copy
of everything on it to /dev/null (to test the CD is 100% readable).

If that's all good and it still won't boot, show us the error message/s?
 
Cheers, Ian

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