Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
in answer to Wojciech's ... there is already windows!, i don't think there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95 and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X). there is nothing wrong in any product as long as it's sold with normal free marked rules, and nobody is forced using it. And that's the true problem with windows - that it is forced. for example - using our taxpayers money - it's in every school's computer and children have no choice but have their brain washed. but it's OT. however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety, more limited software then they can certainly find what they are looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up. it's not more limited software, it's more limited from our point of view. from their point of view unix is limited, because you can't just click install and get cool colourfull icons and windows. And LET IT BE THAT WAY. so please do not improve FreeBSD in that aspect. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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. . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of coolness in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to actually express any personal preferences during setup. so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, I have a T61, T7100, 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, 3945ABG... My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. There are some problems with the 3945 wifi driver (wpi) but it works under 7-STABLE. If you have 4965AGN you need iwn driver which is only (i think) in -CURRENT (8.0) 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Thanks a lot. I run Matlab (maybe R14SP3 or something similar) under FreeBSD 7-STABLE on this laptop with linux_base-fc4. I use i386 and not x64 Checkout freebsd-mobile mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:48:10AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: . . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of coolness in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to actually express any personal preferences during setup. so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is. There's a reason I use FreeBSD rather than PC-BSD, or any of the others I mentioned. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Common Reformulation of Greenspun's Tenth Rule: Any sufficiently complicated non-Lisp program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. pgp4WoTuG6AG4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. if you want out of the box cool desktop use Windows, because it's a system made for this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:02:51AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. if you want out of the box cool desktop use Windows, because it's a system made for this. Is this meant to be trolling? For glitzy, bells-and-whistles desktop featuritis, I find that open source Unix-like OSes actually do better in general than MS Windows Vista and even MacOS X (though at least with MacOS X you can install the X Window System and get much the same functionality that you can with a Linux distribution or BSD Unix system): http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=335 For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish. Most people seem to prefer something between the two, however. If someone wanted a cool desktop experience, though, MS Windows is about the last place I'd send 'em. Well, okay, maybe I'd send someone there before OpenVMS, but that's kind of getting far afield. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Marvin Minsky: It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game. pgptlV2Ha0eWm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish. the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, many opportunities. i've been using ion for about a year having tried and liked kde, gnome, fluxbox, even plwm and many others. rather than merely playing with some personal options here and there to customize it, you can actually make your desktop choice to the way you work -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people. with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, many opportunities. in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good that desktop usage isn't improved in FreeBSD as this improvement == lack of choice. for those who don't like to hack the system, just have everything just put up and ready to use, there is already windows! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 08:31:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people. with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, many opportunities. in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good that desktop usage isn't improved in FreeBSD as this improvement == lack of choice. for those who don't like to hack the system, just have everything just put up and ready to use, there is already windows! . . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of coolness in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to actually express any personal preferences during setup. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] I was essentially an anarcho-capitalist in high school, rather than wasting the folly of my youth on something lame like revolutionary communism. pgpimWdCHeHnf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:39:44 -0600 Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those who don't like to hack the system, just have everything just put up and ready to use, there is already windows! . . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something else i agree. i was rather amused when a friend told me recently she had gone over to mac from xp and started raving about having discovered multiple desktops. i told her i was happy for her and added that i did know what these things were since we've had them for years in *nix. in answer to Wojciech's ... there is already windows!, i don't think there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95 and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X). however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety, more limited software then they can certainly find what they are looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility lists to check for specific peripherals. The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. jerry Thanks a lot. Thank you guys. I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my notebook :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility lists to check for specific peripherals. The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. jerry Thanks a lot. Thank you guys. I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my notebook :P I am able to compile world and kernel and the temperature of the cores is never higher than 67. I find it stable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be in server program or desktop program whatever desktop means for you. there is nothing to be enhanced. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be in server program or desktop program whatever desktop means for you. there is nothing to be enhanced. For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need to read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility lists to check for specific peripherals. The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. jerry Thanks a lot. Thank you guys. I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my notebook :P What FreeBSD focuses on is being an Operating System - a foundation platform for what you want to run. There are plenty of desktop utilities that you can easily install to get the environment you wish. But, FreeBSD does not decide for you which to use. For example, I prefer a fairly simple desktop without a lot of extra garbage in my way. So, I just use Afterstep. Some people seem to need the security blanket feeling of all that extra junk. KDE and Gnome are a couple of desktops lots of people use. Whichever you want, they are in the ports system for easy install. Learn to use the ports system. It makes FreeBSD very powerful as a desktop as well as a server. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be in server program or desktop program whatever desktop means for you. there is nothing to be enhanced. I beg to differ. There is far more desktop particularly multimedia development in Linux - lots more people and much wider range of interests. Programs that are not available for FreeBSD include Cinelerra, projectM and (I think, but please prove me wrong) the climateprediction.net BOINC project. If you only want applications that are in the ports tree (and the vast majority are) chances are they are pretty current and work well, in which case FreeBSD makes an easy to maintain, fast, stable desktop. It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. There was a discussion about this in questions a while back. Look for subject FreeBSD Linux distro. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 7:13 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need to read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD. I believe most of those sorts of enhancements would be provided by the applications or desktop environment. Gnome or KDE should have similar language support regardless of OS. However, you may have to enable language-specific features when building each port - run 'make config' before building to be sure there aren't any optional but disabled options related to language support. There are also language specific ports of some applications - check the ports tree in /usr/ports/chinese/ for information (after installing). --Andrew smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Thanks a lot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Thanks a lot. If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a free alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that Einstein's theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical inconsistancy in it because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and curvature is nonzero. Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is non-zero. See the code in paper 93 at http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitlepageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's IBM/Lenovo :) 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? works at least for acrobat reader completely. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Wojciech Puchar wrote: | tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or | another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. | | My questions are: | 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, | CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most | important. | | not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's | IBM/Lenovo :) nVIDIA drivers should support it: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html | | 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux | Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many | commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux | binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Linux emulation is stable enough, I would say. I've used it to run Mathematica 5 in the past (see handbook). - -- Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhP/hsACgkQwMJqmJVx944oCQCfQN+mHM2k7RbGnQ45HW8qs/U+ 9aQAoN9vDKMqI8DoZAG3tJaJ0YefjX6b =x7TD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a free alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that Einstein's theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical inconsistancy in it because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and curvature is nonzero. Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is non-zero. See the code in paper 93 at http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitlepageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers Maxima is great! The following may also be quite useful: http://www.scipy.org/ http://code.google.com/p/sympy/ http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ If you prefer an integrated environment, try: http://sagemath.org/ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
The linux progs run very well, what I can tell with my modest amount of programs using this mode. BSD uses a seperate directory what contains all linux-bins and it integrates well. Also the speed is like a normal Linux distro. Maybe it is a good idea to get an old 20GB harddisk, change it and give it a try while leaving your old HD with your current installation intact? Cheers herbs 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Thanks a lot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *** Herbert Langhans, Warschau *** Sprachtraining Langhans *** http://www.langhans.com.pl *** herbert at langhans.com.pl *** NIP 526-229-61-51 *** Regon 014911759 *** Tel. 603 341 441 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility lists to check for specific peripherals. The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. jerry Thanks a lot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
