Am Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400
schrieb Thomas Abthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I
would encourage you to check out the following resources
while it may be supposed to be stable - it is, in my opinion, unusable.
i tried to
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 01:09:18PM -0700, mdh wrote:
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I need to (re)configure the behaviour of som app or part
of the system, I edit the appropriate config file, which
takes about a minute or two...
Unless you've never
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:48:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aloha,
Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager.
XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired.
It's very lightweight and still features
On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:21:17AM -0800, Bruce Cran wrote:
And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the
user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of
people have moved over to using it.
Unix is *very* user friendly. It's just picky about who it
On Behalf Of Bruce Cran
And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the
user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of
people have moved over to using it.
Yes, it appears to be very nice. The programmer in the next cube bought
his own laptop just so he can use
usable on FreeBSD?
Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop
verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster.
I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it
not working.
Could not change the displayed time to from
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400
Thomas Abthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on
FreeBSD. I would encourage you to check out the following resources
Stable != Usable
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Jerry
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My own business always bores me to death;
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop
verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster.
I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it
not working.
Could not change
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Mark Moellering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Mark Moellering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:08 PM
The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs
On Monday 03 November 2008 18:08:38 Mark Moellering wrote:
The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no
(at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of
Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems.
I ultimately changed
I left KDE after version 2 as it then seemed to
go in the wrong direction (more features / bloat?)
http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde2shots.php
In fact, if 2.n would compile on 7.0 I'd have
another look.
Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found
myself slowly but surely converting to
they try to compete and fail. doesn't matter who did what first. today
windoze gui is way more usable than kde4.
this is the only thing i agree.
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A couple of things:
1. It's true -- many users require a gentler transition than simply
giving up the richness of MS Windows and moving to some spare,
no. they don't require transition at all. they will not learn, use
kde/gnome/whatever windoze-like thing then will get back to windoze.
Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found
myself slowly but surely converting to minimalism
i.e. the least needed to get done what I need done!
On my desktop FreeBSD this amount to about 6 jobs and for those twm fits the
bill perfectly.
http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm
i prefer
the question should be Is KDE usable at all on any OS?
the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze.
If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista.
For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice.
I have to quote some random shoutbox I§vre read a long time ago:
You have to realize that this is the question of every user's
individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going
deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are
more GUI-oriented and like somewhat more graphic approach to the same
tasks.
true. that's why
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:39 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have to realize that this is the question of every user's
individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going
deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are
more
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad Perrin
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop verses
ms
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when
I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
Yuri
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On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 12:12:25AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when
I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
Yuri
Well, I
Yuri wrote:
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created
when I first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
Yuri
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I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I
first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major annoyances?
the question should be Is KDE usable at all on any OS?
the answer is no, it's
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
To: Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 11:34 AM
I tried using it but Desktop view window
El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar
escribió:
I tried using it but Desktop view window that was initially created when I
first launched kde4 doesn't appear with the second launch.
I believe KDE4 isn't ready yet.
Anyone can use it without major
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc.
all of them does exactly what's needed. windows management and
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good
look. that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc.
all of them does
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:57:17 +
Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Lear to his daughters Goneril and Regan,
King Lear, Act 2, Scene 4, lines 263-285)
glyn,
it is evident from lines 283-285 that lear used windoze.
--
In friendship,
prad
...
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much easier even for
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
why you want unix be adopted by simple users? they already have windows -
perfect for them, and exactly what they deserve
Also GUI makes life much easier even for
Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much
--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Rolf G Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 3:27 PM
Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW
Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users.
Also GUI makes life much
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aloha,
Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager.
XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired.
It's very lightweight and still features all the nice things
you know from a UNIX X environment. Zsers
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users.
exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these advanced users you say
don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few minutes.
totally wrong. imagine setting up WiFi network. one mouse click opens
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:43:54 -0700
Yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users.
exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these advanced users you
say don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few
minutes.
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 08:49:09AM -0700, mdh wrote:
I rather like KDE4. I don't find that it's like Windows at all, given that
Windows is an operating system and KDE4 is a development framework,
application suite, and window manager. There're hefty differences there, not
the least of
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 05:04:15PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar
escribió:
the question should be Is KDE usable at all on any OS?
the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze.
If someone needs windoze
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:43:56AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.
that's why i compare it to windoze.
and why you need desktop (whatever it means) at all?
You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted
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