On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 06:15:09PM +, RW wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
for X window system just use some small windows manager that (as
name suggest) manages windows on screen and JUST START program you
use.
I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some things
used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM?
I personally use a myriad of Window Managers and Desktops on my
machines. this is m set up:
Main Desktop #1:
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ / 512 MBs RAM / Crappy onboard video
Den Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500
skrev Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net:
I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some
things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM?
http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ahiorean/ahwm/
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Anders Troback wrote:
Den Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:38:18 -0500
skrev Akenner slackwarew...@comcast.net:
I've been watching this thread for a while now and have seen some
things used I haven't even heard of before. What is AHWM?
http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~ahiorean/ahwm/
Thank
I didn't know links had agraphics mode... time to checkt this
out!
start with -g option, of course select X11 support on port config
well i have laserjet 4 and use ghostscript+lpr. can't help you.
I still have a Laserjet 4 (my first printer), I got it as a
present, never treated it
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:06 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
that's why i bought it for ca 50$ USED, already had 86000 pages printed,
and i printed about 35000.
On my printer, the page counter has stuck / turned over and does show
that approx. 1500 pages
to me like they've gone to compete with Vista and have succeeded there,
but I find some of the little extras and the core of it seem unfinished
somehow. The concept is good (in that it could compete with Vista), but
no it's bad. if they wat compete with windows, let they do the whole OS,
and
card because the latest NVidia binary driver doesn't support it). KDE3.5 does
what I want my window manager to do - keeps out of my way and works snappily
enough that I don't notice it.
The claim that KDE4 is faster than KDE3 is frankly incredible to me.
fastest and most stable is not using it
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote:
I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this
condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd.
People have to use KDE4 in significant numbers for it to mature. The
real problem was not that
had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default,
or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have
been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive
attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete.
it's not OSS
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:52:31 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the
default, or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there
wouldn't have been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 16:04 +, RW wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000
Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote:
I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this
condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd.
People have to use KDE4 in significant
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
fortunately it's only tendency to trendy software like KDE. not for all
unix software.
But sadly for the most software that is used for real productivity,
such as media players, programming
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 17:52 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default,
or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have
been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive
attitude that
long-time.
Another fair comment, but they were still competing with Vista to the
punch and only just made it- consider the media releases around the time
of the Vista launch from the kde marketers. They were offering kde on M
$!
let they compete how much as they like. be happy at least in this
worse, if I compare them to older versions. And if I try to
print pages, they look terrible (exceed page borders).
Furthermore, it crashes more often than Opera 5 or 7. When
do you have opera 7 package somewhere? i would like to downgrade.
yes it got very bad.
Ah yes, and Firefox doesn't have
Leave all this colorful whistles to average monkey.
Ok, call me monkey average then :)
Yes i do.
Only this monkey is starting to work
on drivers for FreeBSD
And first wasting half of it's time for all this cool stuff instead of
work on drivers!
Of course we are happy someone works
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a
keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically.
Well, I found this a problem, too, but very early recognized that
there are window
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programming environment? what do you mean?
Some heler application for integration and managing source
files, such as KDevelop, Eclipse or the like.
unix itself is THE BEST (tm) programming
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:36:34 +1000, Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au
wrote:
That said I'm using xfce4
(based on your comments) adjusted to use transparency and all the cool
stuff (even compiz-fusion, which I haven't yet found a use for so its
disabled atm).
Maybe this is interesting or
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:18:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a
keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically.
Well, I found this
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:58:11 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
do you have opera 7 package somewhere? i would like to downgrade.
yes it got very bad.
I think I have a working Opera 7 installation on my old-fashioned
laptop (FreeBSD 5), and if I've got the
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 03:57 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:36:22 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programming environment? what do you mean?
Some heler application for integration and managing source
files, such as KDevelop, Eclipse or
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:08 + (UTC), Dave Feustel
dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote:
I have gotten very interested in window managers. Earlier tonight
I added links to about 6 non-mainstream window managers, including
WindowMaker.
But I still don't understand how the menus of each of these
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:35:05 +1000, Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au
wrote:
Whether or not it helps others, I'm using netbeans because its very
helpful (code completion, auto help dialogs- can be annoying but
manageable) in that it reminds me of what else is in a large system of
code,
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:18:55AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
IMO these basic window managers are ok if you *only* use them via a
keyboard, but if you ever use a mouse they're very poor ergonomically.
Well, I found this
Dear list, I'm starting to make myself unpopular today. :-)
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
fortunately it's only tendency to trendy software like KDE. not for all
unix software.
But sadly for the most software that is used for
Linus Torvalds on KDE4...
[quote]
Q: Another open source project that underwent a big change was KDE
with version 4.0. They released a lot of fundamental architectural
changes with 4.0 and it received some negative reviews. As a KDE user
how has this impacted you?
A: I used to be a KDE user. I
On Monday 26 January 2009 17:02:05 n j wrote:
Linus Torvalds on KDE4...
[quote]
A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I
switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do
what I want it to do. But the whole break everything model is
painful for
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 08:31 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 26 January 2009 17:02:05 n j wrote:
Linus Torvalds on KDE4...
[quote]
A: I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster I
switched to GNOME. I hate the fact that my right button doesn't do
what I
Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I may say that I've
recognized the tendency to slow down programs in UNIX world such as
it is always described in Windows land: As soon as you get a new
OS or new programs, everything runs slower than before. In order to
keep the overall usage
cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/evilwm make install clean
Can't beat a window manager with a binary size of 29k and a resident
memory footprint under 2MB. No window decorations, leaving lots of room
memory footprint is much lower actually. you probably looked at RSS in
top. but it shows everything
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:15:47 -0500, Eduardo Cerejo ejcer...@optonline.net
wrote:
I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4 machine!
Where has kde gone? Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA?
Pitiful at best!
Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I
prad wrote:
:D :D :D
actually my wife is using kde4 on suse.
it's not too bad there for her needs at least, but i try to stay clear
of her computer :D
i did like kde3, but now i'm a dwm person!
I've been using KDE4 on a machine with OpenSUSE 11 that has 512 MBs RAM,
and an AMD Athlon XP
I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4 machine!
Where has kde gone? Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA? Pitiful at
best!
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I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4 machine!
Where has kde gone?
Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA? Pitiful at best!
Now Microsoft can say AndYou all told that linux is so much better,
but now we see the truth
anyway what a sense of using it
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:25:12 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
Now Microsoft can say AndYou all told that linux is so much
better, but now we see the truth
:D :D :D
actually my wife is using kde4 on suse.
it's not too bad there for her needs at least, but i
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 07:15:47PM -0500, Eduardo Cerejo wrote:
I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4
machine! Where has kde gone? Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA?
Pitiful at best!
Try:
cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/evilwm make install clean
Can't beat
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:15:47 -0500
Eduardo Cerejo ejcer...@optonline.net wrote:
I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4
machine! Where has kde gone?
I think kde3 is going to be around for some time to come. Hopefully
kde4 will have improved by the time it's
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