Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-18 Thread Stephen Hilton
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:39:09 -0500
kirt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:13:30PM -, Markie wrote:
   On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:45:58AM -, Markie wrote:
 i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while
  drinking
a
 mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old
  keyboard.
 while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it
  thoroughly),
i'm
 still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time,
  i
 thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the
  other
 local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled
  for
the
 next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech
elite
 wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly
  in
 windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model
  G-CS104U).
but,
 when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB
devices
 like this...

 uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr
  2
 uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
 ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
 kbd0 at ukbd0
 ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
 ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir

 then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel
  laggy
and
 sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't
work at
 all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin
  with
(even
 though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse
  doesn't
even
 show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D

 kirt
 ___
   
What version of freebsd are you running? I have the same mouse and a
  belkin
2 port e series switch and it's quite the opposite. Works good both ways
  but
after I switch from Windows - Freebsd then back to Windows again it
  feels
laggy in Windows until I unplug it and plug it back in again. I am using
  the
PS2 convertor.
   
   i'm using FreeBSD 5.1 p10, but since my KVM is USB only i have it plugged
  in
   using the USB port.  I otherwise love the keyboard and mouse, but if i
  can't
   use it with FreeBSD i'll probably take it back, since i only use my
  windows
   box for playing games and such, and do most of my real work on my BSD box.
   not being able to type at a sufficient speed is a tremendous pain.
  
   i have noticed one thing, that in windows if i'm holding a key down and i
   press another key, it stops the held down key, prints the currently hit
  key
   and then stops.  for example... kg
  
   in FreeBSD if i'm holding down a key and press another key it prints the
   pressed key once and then resumes spitting out the still held down key,
  for
   example kgkkk
  
   is there a way to get freebsd to use the first (windows) behavior? as i
  think
   that will help with the slight bit of lag i'm getting in BSD causing
   characters to double print.
  
   -kirt
  
  Ahh, I think someone else had this problem fairly recently with a USB
  keyboard thinking about it, possibly on the hackers list. Possibly fixed
  in -CURRENT *but I am not sure!* You may want to give -CURRENT a shot or
  perhaps try 4.9? Sorry I am not much help :oP I am pretty sure I remember
  your keyboard problem being mentioned on either questions or hackers though.
  
 
 k, thanks for the headsup, i checked through the mailing lists once already,
 and i didn't have time again this morning to search too much before work.
 
 if i don't find anything i'll ask over at -hackers.  anyone else that has any
 ideas, feel free to chime in ;D

Kirt,

here is a pointer, long url coming:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=bl1vr6%241v46%241%40FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.twrnum=2prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dplasma%2Busb%2Bgroup:mailing.freebsd.*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dmailing.freebsd.*%26selm%3Dbl1vr6%25241v46%25241%2540FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw%26rnum%3D2

PR = kern/57273

HTH,


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Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-18 Thread Gary
Hi Stephen,

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:17:39 -0600 UTC (11/18/2003, 9:17 AM -0600 UTC my
time), Stephen Hilton wrote:

 if i don't find anything i'll ask over at -hackers.  anyone else that has any
 ideas, feel free to chime in ;D

S Kirt,

S here is a pointer, long url coming:

S 
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=bl1vr6%241v46%241%40FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.twrnum=2prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dplasma%2Busb%2Bgroup:mailing.freebsd.*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dmailing.freebsd.*%26selm%3Dbl1vr6%25241v46%25241%2540FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw%26rnum%3D2

which would be translated from tinyurl.com to

http://tinyurl.com/vicc

--
Gary

A person who smiles in the face of adversity...probably has a scapegoat.

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Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-17 Thread kirt
i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while drinking a
mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old keyboard.
while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it thoroughly), i'm
still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time, i
thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the other
local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled for the
next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech elite
wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly in
windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model G-CS104U). but,
when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB devices
like this...

uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr 2
uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
kbd0 at ukbd0
ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir

then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel laggy and
sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't work at
all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin with (even
though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse doesn't even
show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D

kirt 
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Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-17 Thread Markie
- Original Message -
From: kirt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:15 PM
Subject: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)


 i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while drinking
a
 mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old keyboard.
 while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it thoroughly),
i'm
 still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time, i
 thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the other
 local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled for
the
 next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech
elite
 wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly in
 windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model G-CS104U).
but,
 when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB
devices
 like this...

 uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr 2
 uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
 ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
 kbd0 at ukbd0
 ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
 ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir

 then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel laggy
and
 sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't
work at
 all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin with
(even
 though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse doesn't
even
 show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D

 kirt
 ___

What version of freebsd are you running? I have the same mouse and a belkin
2 port e series switch and it's quite the opposite. Works good both ways but
after I switch from Windows - Freebsd then back to Windows again it feels
laggy in Windows until I unplug it and plug it back in again. I am using the
PS2 convertor.

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Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-17 Thread kirt
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:45:58AM -, Markie wrote:
  i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while drinking
 a
  mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old keyboard.
  while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it thoroughly),
 i'm
  still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time, i
  thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the other
  local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled for
 the
  next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech
 elite
  wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly in
  windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model G-CS104U).
 but,
  when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB
 devices
  like this...
 
  uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr 2
  uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
  ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
  kbd0 at ukbd0
  ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
  ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir
 
  then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel laggy
 and
  sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't
 work at
  all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin with
 (even
  though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse doesn't
 even
  show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D
 
  kirt
  ___
 
 What version of freebsd are you running? I have the same mouse and a belkin
 2 port e series switch and it's quite the opposite. Works good both ways but
 after I switch from Windows - Freebsd then back to Windows again it feels
 laggy in Windows until I unplug it and plug it back in again. I am using the
 PS2 convertor.
 
i'm using FreeBSD 5.1 p10, but since my KVM is USB only i have it plugged in
using the USB port.  I otherwise love the keyboard and mouse, but if i can't
use it with FreeBSD i'll probably take it back, since i only use my windows
box for playing games and such, and do most of my real work on my BSD box.
not being able to type at a sufficient speed is a tremendous pain.

i have noticed one thing, that in windows if i'm holding a key down and i
press another key, it stops the held down key, prints the currently hit key
and then stops.  for example... kg

in FreeBSD if i'm holding down a key and press another key it prints the
pressed key once and then resumes spitting out the still held down key, for
example kgkkk 

is there a way to get freebsd to use the first (windows) behavior? as i think
that will help with the slight bit of lag i'm getting in BSD causing
characters to double print.

-kirt
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Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-17 Thread Markie

- Original Message -
From: kirt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)


 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:45:58AM -, Markie wrote:
   i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while
drinking
  a
   mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old
keyboard.
   while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it
thoroughly),
  i'm
   still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time,
i
   thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the
other
   local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled
for
  the
   next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech
  elite
   wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly
in
   windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model
G-CS104U).
  but,
   when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB
  devices
   like this...
  
   uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr
2
   uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
   ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
   kbd0 at ukbd0
   ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
   ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir
  
   then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel
laggy
  and
   sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't
  work at
   all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin
with
  (even
   though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse
doesn't
  even
   show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D
  
   kirt
   ___
 
  What version of freebsd are you running? I have the same mouse and a
belkin
  2 port e series switch and it's quite the opposite. Works good both ways
but
  after I switch from Windows - Freebsd then back to Windows again it
feels
  laggy in Windows until I unplug it and plug it back in again. I am using
the
  PS2 convertor.
 
 i'm using FreeBSD 5.1 p10, but since my KVM is USB only i have it plugged
in
 using the USB port.  I otherwise love the keyboard and mouse, but if i
can't
 use it with FreeBSD i'll probably take it back, since i only use my
windows
 box for playing games and such, and do most of my real work on my BSD box.
 not being able to type at a sufficient speed is a tremendous pain.

 i have noticed one thing, that in windows if i'm holding a key down and i
 press another key, it stops the held down key, prints the currently hit
key
 and then stops.  for example... kg

 in FreeBSD if i'm holding down a key and press another key it prints the
 pressed key once and then resumes spitting out the still held down key,
for
 example kgkkk

 is there a way to get freebsd to use the first (windows) behavior? as i
think
 that will help with the slight bit of lag i'm getting in BSD causing
 characters to double print.

 -kirt

Ahh, I think someone else had this problem fairly recently with a USB
keyboard thinking about it, possibly on the hackers list. Possibly fixed
in -CURRENT *but I am not sure!* You may want to give -CURRENT a shot or
perhaps try 4.9? Sorry I am not much help :oP I am pretty sure I remember
your keyboard problem being mentioned on either questions or hackers though.

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Re: Logitech MX Duo troubles (fast RF wireless keyboard and mouse)

2003-11-17 Thread kirt
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:13:30PM -, Markie wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:45:58AM -, Markie wrote:
i recently had a small child (my daughter) jump into my lap while
 drinking
   a
mr. pibb which then ended up pouring almost directly into my old
 keyboard.
while i have attemtpted to clean that keyboard out (washed it
 thoroughly),
   i'm
still waiting for it to dry before testing it.  so, in the mean time,
 i
thought i'd go ahead and get a new keyboard.  since staples and the
 other
local computer stores don't carry my keyboard of choice, i settled
 for
   the
next best thing, which was the logitech MX duo (which is the logitech
   elite
wireless keyboard and the MX700 mouse).  both of these work perfectly
 in
windows, even through my KVM (an IoGear miniview USB KVM model
 G-CS104U).
   but,
when i use the KVM to switch to the freebsd box, it notices the USB
   devices
like this...
   
uhub3: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr
 2
uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
kbd0 at ukbd0
ums0: Logitech USB Reveiver, rev 1.10/21.00, addr 3, class 3/1
ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir
   
then, the keyboard will work, although it has a tendency to feel
 laggy
   and
sometimes repeats letters if i'm typing quickly, and the mouse doesn't
   work at
all.  so... i need to figure out why the keyboard is laggy to begin
 with
   (even
though it is perfectly responsive in windows) and why the mouse
 doesn't
   even
show up.   thanks in advance...  ;D
   
kirt
___
  
   What version of freebsd are you running? I have the same mouse and a
 belkin
   2 port e series switch and it's quite the opposite. Works good both ways
 but
   after I switch from Windows - Freebsd then back to Windows again it
 feels
   laggy in Windows until I unplug it and plug it back in again. I am using
 the
   PS2 convertor.
  
  i'm using FreeBSD 5.1 p10, but since my KVM is USB only i have it plugged
 in
  using the USB port.  I otherwise love the keyboard and mouse, but if i
 can't
  use it with FreeBSD i'll probably take it back, since i only use my
 windows
  box for playing games and such, and do most of my real work on my BSD box.
  not being able to type at a sufficient speed is a tremendous pain.
 
  i have noticed one thing, that in windows if i'm holding a key down and i
  press another key, it stops the held down key, prints the currently hit
 key
  and then stops.  for example... kg
 
  in FreeBSD if i'm holding down a key and press another key it prints the
  pressed key once and then resumes spitting out the still held down key,
 for
  example kgkkk
 
  is there a way to get freebsd to use the first (windows) behavior? as i
 think
  that will help with the slight bit of lag i'm getting in BSD causing
  characters to double print.
 
  -kirt
 
 Ahh, I think someone else had this problem fairly recently with a USB
 keyboard thinking about it, possibly on the hackers list. Possibly fixed
 in -CURRENT *but I am not sure!* You may want to give -CURRENT a shot or
 perhaps try 4.9? Sorry I am not much help :oP I am pretty sure I remember
 your keyboard problem being mentioned on either questions or hackers though.
 

k, thanks for the headsup, i checked through the mailing lists once already,
and i didn't have time again this morning to search too much before work.

if i don't find anything i'll ask over at -hackers.  anyone else that has any
ideas, feel free to chime in ;D

kirt 
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