Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Mark Terribile

[Coming in late ...]

> On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 05:19:10PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote:
> > > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
> > > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
> > > timer jumps to zero again.
> > >
> > > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
> > >
> > > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
> > > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
> > > not allow this?

Most system management/statistical things are built around the MIB (Management
Information Base) concept used by SNMP, etc.  These call for time to be kept
in 10,000ths of a second in a 32-bit unsigned counter.  That register rolls
over in about 497 days.  (Later versions of the base MIB add 64-bit counters,
but support isn't universal and software designs tend to prefer the original
counters.)

Mark Terribile




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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Michael W. Lucas
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 12:40:53AM +0900, Rob wrote:
> Michael W. Lucas wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >This tickles something in the back of my memory.
> >
> >You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
> >Netcraft-style, are you?
> >
> >IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
> >unaffected.
> 
> Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found
> other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way
> of measuring up-time?
> 
> Rob.

Yep.

It's a counter that rolls over in the TCP stack.

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Rob
Michael W. Lucas wrote:
Hi,
This tickles something in the back of my memory.
You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
Netcraft-style, are you?
IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
unaffected.
Yes, I read it first time on a Netcraft's webpage, then googled and found
other reports as well. So this 497 limitation is only for Netscaft's way
of measuring up-time?
Rob.
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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Charlie Schluting
Rob wrote:
Hi,
By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
timer jumps to zero again.
Not here..
 8:00AM  up 1074 days, 11:58, 0 users, load averages: 0.57, 0.26, 0.10
That's on 2.1.0-RELEASE, BTW :)
-Charlie
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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Michael W. Lucas

Hi,

This tickles something in the back of my memory.

You aren't by chance talking about remote uptime detection,
Netcraft-style, are you?

IIRC, that rolls over to 0 at 497 days.  But actual system uptime is
unaffected.

==ml

On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:39:30PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
> uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
> timer jumps to zero again.
> 
> 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
> 
> Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
> current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
> not allow this?
> 
> Just wondering.
> 
> Regards,
> Rob.
> 
> 
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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Ken Smith
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 05:19:10PM +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote:
> > By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
> > uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
> > timer jumps to zero again.
> >
> > 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
> >
> > Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
> > current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
> > not allow this?
> >
> > Just wondering.
> 
> $ uptime
>  5:18ÐÐ  up 498 days,  6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06
> $ uname -r
> 4.4-RELEASE

% uptime
 7:25AM  up 932 days,  3:48, 1 user, load averages: 0.47, 0.30, 0.23
% uname -r
4.4-STABLE
%

That said, I'd love to know what limit it was you (original poster)
saw.  Maybe something has crept in between 4.4 and now?

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Re: Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Maxim Konovalov
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, 12:39+0900, Rob wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
> uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
> timer jumps to zero again.
>
> 497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
>
> Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
> current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
> not allow this?
>
> Just wondering.

$ uptime
 5:18пп  up 498 days,  6:13, 5 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.06
$ uname -r
4.4-RELEASE

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Maximum uptime 497 days?

2004-06-28 Thread Rob
Hi,
By accident I happen to come across this remarkable limit of
uptime registration for FreeBSD systems. After 497 days, the
timer jumps to zero again.
497 days is less than a 1.5 years !
Has this been fixed in newer versions of FreeBSD (stable and/or
current) ? Or is there a hardware limitation (CPU?) that does
not allow this?
Just wondering.
Regards,
Rob.
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