Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-24 Thread Ivan Voras
Philippe Lang wrote:

 Hum, that means LAN works on a SuperMicro X7DBE motherboard? That's

Note that I'm really emphasizing that I don't know *why* it was working :)

 really good news! I was hesitating buying one, because of the supposed
 lack of 82563EB support, but I see I'm wrong. Can anyone explain how
 this chip could be supported, even if not mentioned in the driver itself
 and in the documentation?
 
 Ivan, do you have the opportunity to open your server, and check what
 LAN chip there is inside?

Sorry, no, it went to a client and I don't have physical access to it.



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Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-22 Thread Ivan Voras
Andrew Fremantle wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near
 future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines.

Nothing wrong with that...

 I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper
 motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major
 problems with this board.

A desktop board?
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm ?

Those usually have top-of-the-line devices (SATA, Net, sound) which are
not widely supported, or even stable.

I've seen (and sometimes built) several Intel Xeon 51xx systems that
work without problem with server boards.

 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard
 video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?

If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. For
example something like this:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm

 Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons,
 certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons.
 Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the
 documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.

The server version of Core 2, aka Xeon 51xx, works fine in both 32-bit
and 64-bit mode.



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RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-22 Thread Philippe Lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan,
 onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?
 
 If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better.
 For example something like this:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm

This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not
supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong?

Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:

typedef enum {
em_undefined = 0,
em_82542_rev2_0,
em_82542_rev2_1,
em_82543,
em_82544,
em_82540,
em_82545,
em_82545_rev_3,
em_82546,
em_82546_rev_3,
em_82541,
em_82541_rev_2,
em_82547,
em_82547_rev_2,
em_82571,
em_82572,
em_82573,
em_80003es2lan,
em_ich8lan,
em_num_macs
} em_mac_type;

Philippe
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Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-22 Thread Ivan Voras
Philippe Lang wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan,
 onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?
 If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better.
 For example something like this:

 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm
 
 This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not
 supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong?
 
 Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:...

I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some
other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to me.
Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :)



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RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-22 Thread Philippe Lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Philippe Lang wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan,
 onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?
 If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better.
 For example something like this:
 

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cf
 m 
 
 This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK
 not supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm
 wrong? 
 
 Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:...
 
 I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some
 other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to
 me. Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :) 

Hum, that means LAN works on a SuperMicro X7DBE motherboard? That's
really good news! I was hesitating buying one, because of the supposed
lack of 82563EB support, but I see I'm wrong. Can anyone explain how
this chip could be supported, even if not mentioned in the driver itself
and in the documentation?

Ivan, do you have the opportunity to open your server, and check what
LAN chip there is inside?

Thanks, bye

Philippe Lang
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PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Fremantle

Hello,

I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near 
future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. 
I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper 
motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major 
problems with this board.


First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel 
initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, 
then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I select 
to boot without ACPI support.


Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a 
generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive 
attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand the 
Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The 
kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board.


So my questions are

1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD?

2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard 
video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?


Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, 
certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. 
Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the 
documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.


- Andrew
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Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-21 Thread jekillen


On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Andrew Fremantle wrote:


Hello,

I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near 
future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. 
I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper 
motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major 
problems with this board.


First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel 
initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, 
then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I 
select to boot without ACPI support.


Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a 
generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive 
attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand 
the Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The 
kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board.


So my questions are

1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD?

2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard 
video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?


Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, 
certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. 
Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the 
documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.


- Andrew


If you are willing to try AMD64 I have built one with
ASUS M2N32 WS pro. It has two PCI-e slots and
two PCI x slots. Uses new AM2 socket and DDR2
memory, is not modestly priced at over $300 for
the board alone. But there is also a model
M2N32 SLI version that does not come with the
PCI x slots and is somewhat less expensive.
You might consider, I believe you can get
AMD 64 dual core processors to use with it.
But perhaps since you already spent the money
on Intel, you are not willing to go this route.
Oh, yes, the boards have dual gigabit built in
NICs that appear to be well supported chip sets.
It also has 6 internal SATA busses and 3 external
SATA buses.
I got the M2N32 WS Pro because I wanted to use
two 15 k rpm SCSI drives along with an SATA
boot drive. The SCSI adapter I got, LSIlogic,
would only fit in PCIx slots.
I have installed FreeBSD v6.0 and have had no
problem with sysinstall what so ever. And it boots
just fine, so far.
Hope this helps
JK

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