Re: Port devel/arduino serial port problems [SOLVED]

2013-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance

On 03/13/13 21:56, Arthur Chance wrote:

I'm trying to get devel/arduino working.[snip]


I shouldn't work 13 hour days. Now I've had some sleep, I've spotted 
what I missed last night. The underlying code from comms/rxtx is trying 
to create a lock file in /var/spool/lock and that is only writeable by 
user uucp and group dialer. Given that I have absolutely no serial 
devices (or ports) on this box apart from the Arduino when it's plugged 
in, can anyone see any problems with making the lock directory world 
writeable?


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Re: Port devel/arduino serial port problems [SOLVED]

2013-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:48:22 +, Arthur Chance wrote:
 On 03/13/13 21:56, Arthur Chance wrote:
  I'm trying to get devel/arduino working.[snip]
 
 I shouldn't work 13 hour days. Now I've had some sleep, I've spotted 
 what I missed last night. The underlying code from comms/rxtx is trying 
 to create a lock file in /var/spool/lock and that is only writeable by 
 user uucp and group dialer. Given that I have absolutely no serial 
 devices (or ports) on this box apart from the Arduino when it's plugged 
 in, can anyone see any problems with making the lock directory world 
 writeable?

Simply add your user (or the account the program is running
under) to the dialer group. This has been a common method
to allow users to access dialing programs (which were reserved
for root use without this group addition).



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Re: Port devel/arduino serial port problems [SOLVED]

2013-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance

On 03/14/13 13:08, Warren Block wrote:

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Polytropon wrote:


On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:48:22 +, Arthur Chance wrote:

On 03/13/13 21:56, Arthur Chance wrote:

I'm trying to get devel/arduino working.[snip]


I shouldn't work 13 hour days. Now I've had some sleep, I've spotted
what I missed last night. The underlying code from comms/rxtx is trying
to create a lock file in /var/spool/lock and that is only writeable by
user uucp and group dialer. Given that I have absolutely no serial
devices (or ports) on this box apart from the Arduino when it's plugged
in, can anyone see any problems with making the lock directory world
writeable?


Simply add your user (or the account the program is running
under) to the dialer group. This has been a common method
to allow users to access dialing programs (which were reserved
for root use without this group addition).


This is also mentioned when the Arduino port is installed:

To allow serial port locking, add your user to the dialer group:
 pw usermod myuser -G dialer


Warren and Polytropon, thanks. I realised that this morning and added 
myself to dialer. I'd originally thought the requirement for dialler 
group was simply to access /dev/cuaU0 and wrote a devd.conf file to set 
that as mode 666. It was only after catching up with my sleep I thought 
of lock files.


However, my point was a little more general than just fixing this 
specific access problem - many desktop machines these days don't have 
serial lines or any need for dialer programs, and adding yet another 
group to an ever increasing list just so that I can talk to an Arduino 
seems a little redundant. (As does using /var/spool/lock - isn't that 
what /dev/cuaU0.lock is for?)



For anyone else thinking of playing with Arduinos on FreeBSD, this bug

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=163749

in avrdude bit me (on a 9.1-RELEASE-p1 amd64 machine, talking to an 
Arduino Uno R3). The second patch (patch-arduino.c) fixed the problem, 
but it's a shame it's not included in the port 14 months after it was 
submitted.

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Re: Port devel/arduino serial port problems [SOLVED]

2013-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:59:12 +, Arthur Chance wrote:
 However, my point was a little more general than just fixing this 
 specific access problem - many desktop machines these days don't have 
 serial lines or any need for dialer programs, and adding yet another 
 group to an ever increasing list just so that I can talk to an Arduino 
 seems a little redundant.

Remember that this group isn't _that_ new, it has
its own historical value. :-)

Furthermore, if you consider PPPoE, what are you
actually doing? You're _dialing_ (not with a phone
number, not even through the serial port, but
utilizing means of PPP) with your modem connected
by an Ethernet cable. This mechanism also requires
root privileges, except you are in the dialer
group. :-)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/serial.html



 (As does using /var/spool/lock - isn't that 
 what /dev/cuaU0.lock is for?)

No, those are actual devices, see man 4 uart for
details. The subtree /var/spool is primarily used
for things like mail and printer subsystems.






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Port devel/arduino serial port problems

2013-03-13 Thread Arthur Chance
I'm trying to get devel/arduino working. Plugging in the USB cable to 
the Arduino creates /dev/cuaU0* and /dev/ttyU0* and I'm manually 
changing them to mode 666 while trying to get started so should be able 
to access them as my normal user. However, the Tools = Serial Port menu 
item in the Arduino IDE is always greyed out, and whatever I set 
serial.port to in ~/.arduino/preferences.txt when trying to upload a 
sketch I always get the error message


Serial port 'whatever serial.port is set to' not found.

Any hints and clues would be very welcome.

My system is 9.1-RELEASE-p1 and amd64

pkg info arduino shows

arduino-1.0.3_1,1  Open-source electronics prototyping platform

My /dev with the Arduino plugged in and a chmod a+rw done suitably:

fileserver# ls -l /dev/{cua,tty}U*
crw-rw-rw-  1 uucp  operator0, 242 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/cuaU0
crw-rw-rw-  1 uucp  operator0, 243 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/cuaU0.init
crw-rw-rw-  1 uucp  operator0, 244 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/cuaU0.lock
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   0, 239 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/ttyU0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   0, 240 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/ttyU0.init
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   0, 241 Mar 13 21:24 /dev/ttyU0.lock
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