Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Miguel
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Mel
Flynnmel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote:
 Your best bet is to poll the mobile list (CC'd) to see if anyone was able to
 get FreeBSD working on this laptop (or even to know whether this is a lost
 cause till somebody makes some patches for this laptop). Since 7.2 also does
 not work and with 8.0-RELEASE being in it's final stages, it's unlikely you
 can get some priority from the developers for it being a regression bug. The
 acpi and missing disk can be related (most likely are), but unless you get at
 least a live FS working (even the USB image for 8.0-BETA2) it will be hard to
 get an acpidump(8). So this really depends on someone knowledgeable having
 this laptop or BIOS tricks that get you to a stage where more info can be
 gathered and saved/snapshot.

Ok, I understand chances to have it running in the short term are not high :-)
Anyway, and since I am replying to the mobile list, I am available to
provide more
information about the laptop. I have Linux running on it and I believe there is
something similar to the acpidump (not sure if its the same tool as in FreeBSD
or if their outputs are compatible) that I could use to provide some
more details.

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Miguel
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Ben Fallonbfal...@itbuildersinc.com wrote:
 Might want to take a look at this page as it may provide a bit more insight. 
 The problem isn't with the Machine specifically but with the ATI Sata 
 Controller/Chipset.  Not sure if this has been fixed yet.

 http://www.mavetju.org/mail/view_message.php?list=freebsd-currentid=2740699

Uau!  That's exactly the same problem with the same hardware, and I would be
tempted to say that it _has not_ been solved yet.  I'll try to contact those
guys to try to get some more information.

Thanks a lot for the pointer, Ben.

Regards,
Miguel
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RE: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-06 Thread Ben Fallon
Might want to take a look at this page as it may provide a bit more insight. 
The problem isn't with the Machine specifically but with the ATI Sata 
Controller/Chipset.  Not sure if this has been fixed yet.

http://www.mavetju.org/mail/view_message.php?list=freebsd-currentid=2740699



-Original Message-
From: Miguel [mailto:luis.hen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:53 PM
To: Ben Fallon
Cc: freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Ben Fallonbfal...@itbuildersinc.com wrote:
 What model of laptop is it?  I just subscribed to the list yesterday and may 
 have missed the beginning of this thread.
 You can also check here http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/
 It provides details for a bunch of laptops and what the findings were for the 
 models they tested.
 On Linux, a simple dmesg will help on seeing what devices were found 
 by your os otherwise, like BSD, the lspci also works the same.  Sorry I can't 
 help more without a bit more information.


The complete thread can be read here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-August/203491.html

My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite A210-1CE, and I am attaching the information 
you requested:
the output from lspci -v and dmesg.  Hope it helps :-)

Regards,
Miguel

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Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
Hi,

I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success.  I
started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error:

  No disk found!  Please verify that your disk controller...

Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time on
the FreeBSD world).  I get lines such as:

atapci0: ATI IXP600 SATA300 controller [...]
atapci0: [ITHREAD]
atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ata4: ATA channel 2 on atapci0
ata4: [ITHREAD]
ata5: ATA channel 3 on atapci0
ata5: [ITHREAD]
[...]
atapci1: ATI IPX600 UDMA 133 controller [...]
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ata0: [ITHREAD]
[...]

(Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload to
some URL if needed.)

So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors:

acpi0_check: nexus0 attached
acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
...

in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, but
these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, which
unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I
have a Toshiba Satellite A210).

Anyway, I decided to try a more recent version of FreeBSD and downloaded

  8.0-CURRENT-200906-amd64-disc1.iso

which was the most recent snapshot for my Turion64 processor.

Tried to boot it but this time the installation just freeze before the install
application event starts.  Last log lines are:

acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST
device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
md0: Preload image /boot/mfsroot 4194304 bytes at 0x80fd8660
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0
warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set accurately

And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes.

Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD
installation on my laptop.  I am, of course, available to provide any additional
information you might need to debug the issue.

Thanks!
--
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success.  I
 started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error:

  No disk found!  Please verify that your disk controller...

 Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time 
 on
 the FreeBSD world).  I get lines such as:

 atapci0: ATI IXP600 SATA300 controller [...]
 atapci0: [ITHREAD]
 atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata2: [ITHREAD]
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 ata3: [ITHREAD]
 ata4: ATA channel 2 on atapci0
 ata4: [ITHREAD]
 ata5: ATA channel 3 on atapci0
 ata5: [ITHREAD]
 [...]
 atapci1: ATI IPX600 UDMA 133 controller [...]
 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
 ata0: [ITHREAD]
 [...]

 (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload to
 some URL if needed.)

 So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors:

 acpi0_check: nexus0 attached
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 ...

 in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, 
 but
 these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, 
 which
 unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I
 have a Toshiba Satellite A210).



[snip]



 acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST
 device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6
 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
 md0: Preload image /boot/mfsroot 4194304 bytes at 0x80fd8660
 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0
 warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set 
 accurately

 And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes.

 Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD
 installation on my laptop.  I am, of course, available to provide any 
 additional
 information you might need to debug the issue.


Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?  It should be option 2 from
the loader menu.


-- 
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
Hi Glen,

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success.  I
 started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error:

  No disk found!  Please verify that your disk controller...

 Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time 
 on
 the FreeBSD world).  I get lines such as:

 atapci0: ATI IXP600 SATA300 controller [...]
 atapci0: [ITHREAD]
 atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata2: [ITHREAD]
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 ata3: [ITHREAD]
 ata4: ATA channel 2 on atapci0
 ata4: [ITHREAD]
 ata5: ATA channel 3 on atapci0
 ata5: [ITHREAD]
 [...]
 atapci1: ATI IPX600 UDMA 133 controller [...]
 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
 ata0: [ITHREAD]
 [...]

 (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload 
 to
 some URL if needed.)

 So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors:

 acpi0_check: nexus0 attached
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 ...

 in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, 
 but
 these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, 
 which
 unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I
 have a Toshiba Satellite A210).



 [snip]



 acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST
 device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6
 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
 md0: Preload image /boot/mfsroot 4194304 bytes at 0x80fd8660
 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0
 warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set 
 accurately

 And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes.

 Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD
 installation on my laptop.  I am, of course, available to provide any 
 additional
 information you might need to debug the issue.


 Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?  It should be option 2 from
 the loader menu.

Yes, I tried that already with same results.

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Glen,


 Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?  It should be option 2 from
 the loader menu.

 Yes, I tried that already with same results.


Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a
bad CD or bad burn)?

Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine?

-- 
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Glen,


 Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?  It should be option 2 from
 the loader menu.

 Yes, I tried that already with same results.


 Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a
 bad CD or bad burn)?

The CD image seems to be fine (both of them): I have installed them on a Linux
kvm virtual machine and there were no problems -- both are able to do the
complete installation and I am able to boot the resulting image.

(Sorry, no other physical machines available at the moment.)

 Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine?

I would love to upgrade my BIOS but I am unable to do that -- I have not Windows
installed and my vendor requires Windows to be installed in order to perform the
upgrade (yes, I know!  I will never buy another laptop from them!)

I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not sure
if it will make any difference.  As far as I understand, the snapshot I tried is
more recent than 8.0-BETA2.  Or am I wrong?  Is it worth downloading one more
ISO just to try it?

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Glen,


 Can you try booting with ACPI disabled?  It should be option 2 from
 the loader menu.

 Yes, I tried that already with same results.


 Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a
 bad CD or bad burn)?

 The CD image seems to be fine (both of them): I have installed them on a Linux
 kvm virtual machine and there were no problems -- both are able to do the
 complete installation and I am able to boot the resulting image.

 (Sorry, no other physical machines available at the moment.)


That's fine.  At least you know the media / image are working.

 Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine?

 I would love to upgrade my BIOS but I am unable to do that -- I have not 
 Windows
 installed and my vendor requires Windows to be installed in order to perform 
 the
 upgrade (yes, I know!  I will never buy another laptop from them!)


No comment. :-)

 I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not 
 sure
 if it will make any difference.  As far as I understand, the snapshot I tried 
 is
 more recent than 8.0-BETA2.  Or am I wrong?  Is it worth downloading one more
 ISO just to try it?


The -BETA, -BETA1, -BETA2 images are run the same way -RELEASE images
are -- once the image is released, there are no further updates to it.
 That is why when you download a -RELEASE, any patches that may have
been released afterwards are not reflected in the install image.

For what it's worth, I tried the -BETA2 image on my laptop, and the
ndis driver was causing panics.  I used 7.2-RELEASE to install the OS,
and rebuilt world/kernel from my build machine using NFS, and the
panics went away.

After rereading your original question, you were using a -CURRENT
snapshot to install -- -BETA2 was released a few weeks ago.  It may
have the problem fixed, yes, but it is not guaranteed.  To answer your
question, is it worth downloading...: that depends.  If you're
willing to waste another CD if it fails, is up to you, but your
problem may be fixed in -BETA2.


-- 
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not 
 sure
 if it will make any difference.  As far as I understand, the snapshot I 
 tried is
 more recent than 8.0-BETA2.  Or am I wrong?  Is it worth downloading one more
 ISO just to try it?


 The -BETA, -BETA1, -BETA2 images are run the same way -RELEASE images
 are -- once the image is released, there are no further updates to it.
  That is why when you download a -RELEASE, any patches that may have
 been released afterwards are not reflected in the install image.

 For what it's worth, I tried the -BETA2 image on my laptop, and the
 ndis driver was causing panics.  I used 7.2-RELEASE to install the OS,
 and rebuilt world/kernel from my build machine using NFS, and the
 panics went away.

 After rereading your original question, you were using a -CURRENT
 snapshot to install -- -BETA2 was released a few weeks ago.  It may
 have the problem fixed, yes, but it is not guaranteed.  To answer your
 question, is it worth downloading...: that depends.  If you're
 willing to waste another CD if it fails, is up to you, but your
 problem may be fixed in -BETA2.

Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the snapshot I
tried.  Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released.  My
problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow
connection here) and most probably my problem will remain.

Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from freebsd.org
that I could replace in my ISO?

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the 
 snapshot I
 tried.  Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released.  My
 problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow
 connection here) and most probably my problem will remain.


Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though.

 Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from 
 freebsd.org
 that I could replace in my ISO?


Not that I am aware of.

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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the 
 snapshot I
 tried.  Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released.  My
 problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow
 connection here) and most probably my problem will remain.


 Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though.

Hmm... Ok, I will try it then.  Not sure if I am able to do this
today, but I try it.

 Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from 
 freebsd.org
 that I could replace in my ISO?


 Not that I am aware of.

Right, I could not find it too.

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Miguel
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguelluis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the 
 snapshot I
 tried.  Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released.  My
 problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow
 connection here) and most probably my problem will remain.


 Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though.

Ok, some updates: I downloaded 8.0-BETA2 ISO and the result was exactly the
same, i.e., system freezes during CD boot in the same point as before.  This
time I did not actually tried to install the CD on a virtual machine, but I can
not believe it is a problem with the CD image ;-)

This time I disabled _everything_ I could disable in my BIOS and selected
several options from the boot manager: the default option, the option with ACPI
disabled, the option safe-mode (or something like that...) and finally the
verbose option, which gave me some more information.  Here's the last messages
I see in the console before freeze:

start_init: trying /sbin/init
start_init: trying /sbin/oinit
start_init: trying /sbin/init.bak
start_init: trying /rescue/init
start_init: trying /stand/sysinstall

And that's all.  Any ideas? :-(

Regards,
Miguel
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Re: Problems with FreeBSD installation

2009-08-05 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:01:30 Miguel wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success.  I
 started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error:

   No disk found!  Please verify that your disk controller...

 Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first
 time on the FreeBSD world).  I get lines such as:

 atapci0: ATI IXP600 SATA300 controller [...]
 atapci0: [ITHREAD]
 atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
 ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata2: [ITHREAD]
 ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 ata3: [ITHREAD]
 ata4: ATA channel 2 on atapci0
 ata4: [ITHREAD]
 ata5: ATA channel 3 on atapci0
 ata5: [ITHREAD]
 [...]
 atapci1: ATI IPX600 UDMA 133 controller [...]
 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
 ata0: [ITHREAD]
 [...]

 (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload
 to some URL if needed.)

 So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors:

 acpi0_check: nexus0 attached
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present
 ...

 in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the
 logs, but these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a
 buggy BIOS, which unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not
 windows installed (I have a Toshiba Satellite A210).

 Anyway, I decided to try a more recent version of FreeBSD and downloaded

   8.0-CURRENT-200906-amd64-disc1.iso

 which was the most recent snapshot for my Turion64 processor.

 Tried to boot it but this time the installation just freeze before the
 install application event starts.  Last log lines are:

 acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST
 device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6
 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
 md0: Preload image /boot/mfsroot 4194304 bytes at 0x80fd8660
 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
 WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0
 warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set
 accurately

 And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes.

 Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD
 installation on my laptop.  I am, of course, available to provide any
 additional information you might need to debug the issue.

Your best bet is to poll the mobile list (CC'd) to see if anyone was able to 
get FreeBSD working on this laptop (or even to know whether this is a lost 
cause till somebody makes some patches for this laptop). Since 7.2 also does 
not work and with 8.0-RELEASE being in it's final stages, it's unlikely you 
can get some priority from the developers for it being a regression bug. The 
acpi and missing disk can be related (most likely are), but unless you get at 
least a live FS working (even the USB image for 8.0-BETA2) it will be hard to 
get an acpidump(8). So this really depends on someone knowledgeable having 
this laptop or BIOS tricks that get you to a stage where more info can be 
gathered and saved/snapshot.
-- 
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problems with FreeBSD installation

2002-11-14 Thread greg tibbetts
I am attempting to test and see if the disc1 boot image works.  I am not 
sure but it doesnt seem to work. I created a bootable and a non bootable CD 
rom with easy cd creator and it doesnt boot from the cd rom even though I do 
necessities to the BIOS, to boot from cd rom.

Can anyone help?

Greg

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Re: problems with FreeBSD installation

2002-11-14 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, greg tibbetts wrote:

 I am attempting to test and see if the disc1 boot image works.  I am not 
 sure but it doesnt seem to work. I created a bootable and a non bootable CD 
 rom with easy cd creator and it doesnt boot from the cd rom even though I do 
 necessities to the BIOS, to boot from cd rom.

Most often this is because people are taking the ISO file and saving it
as one large file on a CD rather than using it as a binary image of the
CD.  For your software, you should be able to right-click on the FreeBSD
ISO icon and select Make CD or whatever the option is called.  If you
drag and drop the ISO file, I don't think that will work.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA


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