Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions
carmoda wrote: ~sigh~ seems like an awful lot of stuffing around for something that a user/developer should be able to access by default *in my opinion*. so far i have about 30% of functionality of my previous W2K system after several times the time required for setup. [as a workstation] FreeBSD may be 'free' and more stable, but after i add my time to a setup it is over twice the price of XP Pro. You charge too much. 8-) 8-). Something HAS to be done on the install front. I did select 'developer + X-windows' in the sysinstall and i think it would make more sense if the account security was more 'open' for the average user given they would be 'developing' on the platform. i mean, half of my apps didnt work due to permissions being short. again, i did select that i wanted a 'developer - x-windows' install. Windows defaults to everyone on the Internet can write my disk; FreeBSD defaults to only root can write my disk; OpenBSD defaults to only God can write my disk, and even he needs a 1024 bit key. It's all a matter of trading security vs. ease of use. For the most part, you should install all software as root, and then expect that the software can be configured to do the right thing as part of the install. In general, I would say that most of your problems arise from the UNIX security model, and the failure of the software vendors or ports maintainers or both to anticipate you using your machine as if it's a signle use box. FWIW, if you are going to use the machine as a single user box, you probably want to create your user as uid 0:0, even if the name is not actually root, and then auto-login the user without a password into something like a KDE environment. Then the console user owns all the hardware, and there's no issues for single user use that need you to go to root to resolve. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:37 am, Nicole wrote: An example of how spliting BSD into BSD server and BSD desktop could be a benefit. Hrmmm. /stand/sysinstall /stand/desktopinstall Jacob RhodenPhone: +61 3 8344 4478 ITS DivisionEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions
Hi, On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 16:06, carmoda wrote: ~sigh~ seems like an awful lot of stuffing around for something that a user/developer should be able to access by default *in my opinion*. so far i have about 30% of functionality of my previous W2K system after several times the time required for setup. [as a workstation] FreeBSD may be 'free' and more stable, but after i add my time to a setup it is over twice the price of XP Pro. How many Windows setups have you done? How many FreeBSD setups? Something HAS to be done on the install front. I did select 'developer + X-windows' in the sysinstall and i think it would make more sense if the account security was more 'open' for the average user given they would be 'developing' on the platform. i mean, half of my apps didnt work due to permissions being short. again, i did select that i wanted a 'developer - x-windows' install. please try to avoid the mistake of comparing XP and FreeBSD when your background is Windows. You will always find that FreeBSD (and FWIW Unix in general) is more difficult, and worse than Windows. The underlying concept of both operating systems is completely different, and you end up comparing apples and bananas. Instead try to understand the heritage of Unix, and you will find that most of the things you think of as senseless now have actually a logical reason. peter lageotakes wrote: Please check out the FreeBSD FAQ: 9.22. How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT Pete Hi, I have been having a trouble getting various things to work on my new 5.1 workstation with gnome 2.x. tonight i was attemtping to get 'gtoaster' [cd buring s/w] working as i couldnt see any drives, and when i tried adding them i encountered a few errors muttering about permissions. so i logged on a root and low and behold not only did i see all the CD drives, but i could also browse my Network, something i have not been able to do. what should do? migrate to using 'root' for my everyday login, or somehow 'up' my ordinary account..? anyone have any suggestions on either idea and perhaps if i should migrate how i could go about this...? please 'CC' me directly on replys... Regards, -- Andreas Kohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Problems with ordinary user permissions
Hi, I have been having a trouble getting various things to work on my new 5.1 workstation with gnome 2.x. tonight i was attemtping to get 'gtoaster' [cd buring s/w] working as i couldnt see any drives, and when i tried adding them i encountered a few errors muttering about permissions. so i logged on a root and low and behold not only did i see all the CD drives, but i could also browse my Network, something i have not been able to do. what should do? migrate to using 'root' for my everyday login, or somehow 'up' my ordinary account..? anyone have any suggestions on either idea and perhaps if i should migrate how i could go about this...? please 'CC' me directly on replys... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions
Please check out the FreeBSD FAQ: 9.22. How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT Pete --- Anthony Carmody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have been having a trouble getting various things to work on my new 5.1 workstation with gnome 2.x. tonight i was attemtping to get 'gtoaster' [cd buring s/w] working as i couldnt see any drives, and when i tried adding them i encountered a few errors muttering about permissions. so i logged on a root and low and behold not only did i see all the CD drives, but i could also browse my Network, something i have not been able to do. what should do? migrate to using 'root' for my everyday login, or somehow 'up' my ordinary account..? anyone have any suggestions on either idea and perhaps if i should migrate how i could go about this...? please 'CC' me directly on replys... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions
~sigh~ seems like an awful lot of stuffing around for something that a user/developer should be able to access by default *in my opinion*. so far i have about 30% of functionality of my previous W2K system after several times the time required for setup. [as a workstation] FreeBSD may be 'free' and more stable, but after i add my time to a setup it is over twice the price of XP Pro. Something HAS to be done on the install front. I did select 'developer + X-windows' in the sysinstall and i think it would make more sense if the account security was more 'open' for the average user given they would be 'developing' on the platform. i mean, half of my apps didnt work due to permissions being short. again, i did select that i wanted a 'developer - x-windows' install. peter lageotakes wrote: Please check out the FreeBSD FAQ: 9.22. How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT Pete Hi, I have been having a trouble getting various things to work on my new 5.1 workstation with gnome 2.x. tonight i was attemtping to get 'gtoaster' [cd buring s/w] working as i couldnt see any drives, and when i tried adding them i encountered a few errors muttering about permissions. so i logged on a root and low and behold not only did i see all the CD drives, but i could also browse my Network, something i have not been able to do. what should do? migrate to using 'root' for my everyday login, or somehow 'up' my ordinary account..? anyone have any suggestions on either idea and perhaps if i should migrate how i could go about this...? please 'CC' me directly on replys... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
