On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:50:33 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > same Yarrow pseudo-random sequence. If enough of the random data
> > survives at the end of the dvd it may allow an attack against the
> > PRNG.
> >
> > As things stand, Yarrow is secure, but it might not be a
same Yarrow pseudo-random sequence. If enough of the random data
survives at the end of the dvd it may allow an attack against the PRNG.
As things stand, Yarrow is secure, but it might not be a few years from
now.
always humans make most of security problems, not programs.
if you need more s
Not high-handed. Logical. The difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom
was that /dev/random could block IO if it didn't have enough entropy
in systems where /dev/random is separate simply abusing it by cat
/dev/random >/dev/null make all other programs using it very very slow.
as unix i
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:20:17 -0700
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:56 PM
> > To:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:10:30 -0700
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 7:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: /dev/random question
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> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:51:56 +0200
> Mel <[
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> That's a poor analogy because they ha
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:51:56 +0200
Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 16 September 2007 22:55:50 RW wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:21:38 +0200
> An applicatation using /dev/random doesn't see the difference. It was
> necessary at the time, because systems couldn't produce enough
> ent
On Sunday 16 September 2007 22:55:50 RW wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:21:38 +0200
>
> Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > People
> > travelling the random road, will simply account for the possibility a
> > traffic light comes up, which never does.
>
> That's a poor analogy because they haven't
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 15:21:38 +0200
Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 16 September 2007 03:01:26 RW wrote:
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> > Essentially what has happened is that /dev/random has been
> > abandoned in favour of a better /dev/urandom, and that seems to be
> > a bit high-handed to me.
>
> Not high-han
On Sunday 16 September 2007 03:01:26 RW wrote:
> Essentially what has happened is that /dev/random has been abandoned in
> favour of a better /dev/urandom, and that seems to be a bit high-handed
> to me.
Not high-handed. Logical. The difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom
was that /dev/
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:44:10 -0700
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since FreeBSD tries to be close to perfect ;-) it uses a better
> random driver that can produce random numbers as fast as you want
> them. The symlink is there only as a crutch for older UNIX code
> that was writte
th
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:37 AM
> To: Per olof Ljungmark
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: /dev/random question
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> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could someone on t
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:57:57PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Roland Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:31:55PM +0100, RW wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:36:30 +0200
>>> Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark
On Sep 13, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
On the website it says that the original yarrow algorithm is no
longer
supported. It seems to have been replaced by the fortuna algorithm.
I can't see from the source if /usr/src/sys/dev/random/yarrow.*
use the
original yarrow algorithm,
Roland Smith wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:31:55PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:36:30 +0200
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
Hi,
Could someone on the list point me to a document that explains the
funct
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 05:31:55PM +0100, RW wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:36:30 +0200
> Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Could someone on the list point me to a document that explains the
>
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:36:30 +0200
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could someone on the list point me to a document that explains the
> > functionality of /dev/random in FreeBSD in a little more depth t
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could someone on the list point me to a document that explains the
> functionality of /dev/random in FreeBSD in a little more depth than the man
> page? In other OS's I've looked at random and urandom are different, he
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