Re: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-11 Thread Chris Maness

Matthew Seaman wrote:

Chris Maness wrote:
  

Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a
host to a dns blacklist?  It would be very convenient to blacklist all
the e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist
all senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder.



You need to be very careful implementing something like this.  Most
Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' addresses culled
from the address books on infected machines.  Unless you're careful,
you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely innocent people,
or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users.

Having said that, consider SpamAssassin's 'Auto white list' feature.
It also works as a black list, but it's not a binary on-off.  Instead,
anyone who sends e-mail to your server gets a spam score depending on
the ratings of their previous e-mails to you.  That's added to the
spam score for the e-mail being processed.  So someone who continually
sends you spammy e-mails won't get the benefit of the doubt on a marginal
e-mail, but someone else who sends a lot of ham will.

Also included in SpamAssassin is a client for the Vipul's Razor project.
That's a database of checksums of spam e-mails that is updated live.
Spammer starts sending a few million spam e-mails, but after the first
few, there's a mail signature in the Razor DB so that the rest of the
world can reject those spams straight away. (Port: mail/razor-agents, WWW:
http://razor.sourceforge.net/)

Integrating SpamAssassin into a mailing system can be done in many ways
depending on what mail software is in use and so forth.  Ask again here
with details of your mail setup if you're interested in doing that.

Cheers,

Matthew

  
The Razor project looks interesting.  However, the site is poorly 
written, and I can't seem to find out how it actually works.


I am still interested in setting up a honeypot account on my server, 
then spreading this account all over the net so that the harvesters that 
have picked up my e-mail address will pick up the spamtrap address.  
Then, any e-mail received to this account will get canned.


Chris Maness
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RE: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-11 Thread Tamouh H.

  Does anyone know of a script (or application) to 
 automagically add a 
  host to a dns blacklist?  It would be very convenient to blacklist 
  all the e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to 
  blacklist all senders that thunderbird moves into the spam 
 sub-folder.
  
 
  You need to be very careful implementing something like this.  Most 
  Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' 
 addresses culled 
  from the address books on infected machines.  Unless you're 
 careful, 
  you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely 
 innocent people, 
  or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users.
 
  Having said that, consider SpamAssassin's 'Auto white list' feature.
  It also works as a black list, but it's not a binary 
 on-off.  Instead, 
  anyone who sends e-mail to your server gets a spam score 
 depending on 
  the ratings of their previous e-mails to you.  That's added to the 
  spam score for the e-mail being processed.  So someone who 
 continually 
  sends you spammy e-mails won't get the benefit of the doubt on a 
  marginal e-mail, but someone else who sends a lot of ham will.
 
  Also included in SpamAssassin is a client for the Vipul's 
 Razor project.
  That's a database of checksums of spam e-mails that is updated live.
  Spammer starts sending a few million spam e-mails, but 
 after the first 
  few, there's a mail signature in the Razor DB so that the 
 rest of the 
  world can reject those spams straight away. (Port: 
 mail/razor-agents, WWW:
  http://razor.sourceforge.net/)
 
  Integrating SpamAssassin into a mailing system can be done in many 
  ways depending on what mail software is in use and so forth.  Ask 
  again here with details of your mail setup if you're 
 interested in doing that.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Matthew
 

 The Razor project looks interesting.  However, the site is 
 poorly written, and I can't seem to find out how it actually works.
 
 I am still interested in setting up a honeypot account on my 
 server, then spreading this account all over the net so that 
 the harvesters that have picked up my e-mail address will 
 pick up the spamtrap address.  
 Then, any e-mail received to this account will get canned.
 
 Chris Maness

Already many of the leading DNSBL lists like spamhaus.org and njbl.org uses 
such methods to detect new spammers. We've been using the SBL-XBL + dynablock + 
SURBL lists with much success reaching up to 95% reduction in spam and so far 
very very very little false positives.

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Re: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-11 Thread Chris Maness



Already many of the leading DNSBL lists like spamhaus.org and njbl.org uses 
such methods to detect new spammers. We've been using the SBL-XBL + dynablock + 
SURBL lists with much success reaching up to 95% reduction in spam and so far 
very very very little false positives.


  
I have noticed the amount of spam I have been getting climbing, so I 
needed to crack down.


Thanks, I had SBL but not SBL-XBL.  I also added dynablock.njabl.org and 
multi.surbl.org.


This is the anti-spam part of my freebsd.mc.  That should do the trick.

FEATURE(`dnsbl', `no-more-funn.moensted.dk', `Spammer ${client_addr} 
$f reject

ed: see http://www.moensted.dk/ (relays)')
FEATURE(`dnsbl',`blackholes.mail-abuse.org',` Mail from ${client_addr} 
rejected

: see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?$; {client_addr}')dnl
FEATURE(`dnsbl',`bl.spamcop.net',` Mail from ${client_addr} Blocked - 
see http:

//www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?$ {client_addr}')dnl
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org', `Spammer ${client_addr} $f 
rejected:

see http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/index.lasso')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `list.dsbl.org', `Spammer ${client_addr} $f rejected: 
see htt

p://dsbl.org/main')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `bl.kq6up.org', `Spammer ${client_addr} $f rejected: 
buzz off

spammer')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `dynablock.njabl.org', `Spammer ${client_addr} $f 
rejected: s

ee http://www.njabl.org/dynablock.html')
FEATURE(`dnsbl', `multi.surbl.org', `Spammer ${client_addr} $f 
rejected: see h

ttp://www.surbl.org')


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Re: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
Chris Maness wrote:
 Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a
 host to a dns blacklist?  It would be very convenient to blacklist all
 the e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist
 all senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder.

You need to be very careful implementing something like this.  Most
Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' addresses culled
from the address books on infected machines.  Unless you're careful,
you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely innocent people,
or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users.

Having said that, consider SpamAssassin's 'Auto white list' feature.
It also works as a black list, but it's not a binary on-off.  Instead,
anyone who sends e-mail to your server gets a spam score depending on
the ratings of their previous e-mails to you.  That's added to the
spam score for the e-mail being processed.  So someone who continually
sends you spammy e-mails won't get the benefit of the doubt on a marginal
e-mail, but someone else who sends a lot of ham will.

Also included in SpamAssassin is a client for the Vipul's Razor project.
That's a database of checksums of spam e-mails that is updated live.
Spammer starts sending a few million spam e-mails, but after the first
few, there's a mail signature in the Razor DB so that the rest of the
world can reject those spams straight away. (Port: mail/razor-agents, WWW:
http://razor.sourceforge.net/)

Integrating SpamAssassin into a mailing system can be done in many ways
depending on what mail software is in use and so forth.  Ask again here
with details of your mail setup if you're interested in doing that.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-05 Thread Chris Maness

Matthew Seaman wrote:

You need to be very careful implementing something like this.  Most
Spam nowadays is bot-generated and uses forged 'From' addresses culled
from the address books on infected machines.  Unless you're careful,
you're going to end up blocking a lot of completely innocent people,
or worse, blocking your own legitimate e-mail users.

  
DNS based blacklists are based on the senders IP address, not the forged 
from address.

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Re: DNS Blacklist Script?

2006-08-04 Thread Derek Ragona
Your best is to report them to spamcop.  I believe there is a plug-in for 
thunderbird to do that.


-Derek


At 03:24 PM 8/4/2006, Chris Maness wrote:
Does anyone know of a script (or application) to automagically add a host 
to a dns blacklist?  It would be very convenient to blacklist all the 
e-mails sent from a spammer to a honeypot address, or to blacklist all 
senders that thunderbird moves into the spam sub-folder.


Thanks,
Chris Maness
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