Re: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

2007-06-08 Thread Eric Crist

On Jun 7, 2007, at 9:54 AMJun 7, 2007, cpghost wrote:


On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:00:44PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
You may wish to (at least) encrypt swap partitions, /tmp and /var/tmp,
and probably /usr/tmp (if it's not a symlink to encrypted /var/tmp) in
addition to /home. Most userland programs can leak sensitive date  
there

that you'd rather have encrypted too.

Add to this: stuff like /var/db (esp. useful for /var/db/pgsql,
/var/db/mysql, mail spool directories and some such), and maybe
/var/log as well. Encrypting the complete /var filesystem is
easier though... Some ports also use /usr/local/www to store
user-specific data, but what's the point of encrypting this? ;-)




Regards,
-cpghost.


So, back to encrypting my entire disk, I just need to put the boot  
partition on its own slice?


There's all the bits available to start up the decryption stuff after  
that loads, so I can make my entire system, swap and all, encrypted,  
right?


Eric
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Re: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

2007-06-07 Thread cpghost
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:00:44PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:28:48AM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
> >  I'm trying to take a system that already has a running freebsd system (or I
> >  can start over), and make the entire system encrypted.  I've found
> >  instructions (freebsd manual) for creating secondary disks, but not the 
> > boot
> >  disk in particular.
> > 
> >  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't bother encrypting anything but your own data,
> i.e. /home. And for backup purposes it's better to make a seperate slice
> for that anyway.

You may wish to (at least) encrypt swap partitions, /tmp and /var/tmp,
and probably /usr/tmp (if it's not a symlink to encrypted /var/tmp) in
addition to /home. Most userland programs can leak sensitive date there
that you'd rather have encrypted too.

Add to this: stuff like /var/db (esp. useful for /var/db/pgsql,
/var/db/mysql, mail spool directories and some such), and maybe
/var/log as well. Encrypting the complete /var filesystem is
easier though... Some ports also use /usr/local/www to store
user-specific data, but what's the point of encrypting this? ;-)

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-cpghost.

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Re: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

2007-06-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 08:27:09PM -0400, Bob wrote:
> What is this virtual machine created with  qemu you talk about?

http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ especially
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html

It is a program that emulates a computer. Using a file as a disk image
it can run an operating system and software on a virtual PC.

It's very handy if you want to experiment with other OS's without dual booting.

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RE: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

2007-06-06 Thread Bob
What is this virtual machine created with  qemu you talk about?

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Subject: Re: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:28:48AM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
>  Hey folks,
>
>  I'm trying to take a system that already has a running freebsd system (or
I
>  can start over), and make the entire system encrypted.  I've found
>  instructions (freebsd manual) for creating secondary disks, but not the
boot
>  disk in particular.
>
>  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The /boot directory must not be encrypted, so you need to put that on a
separate slice.

As for the rest, maybe the following thread will help you;
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2006-July/001401.html

The thing is that sysinstall doesn't support creating encrypted disks,
so during install, you'd have to initialize and mount the encrypted
slices manually, and then resume sysinstall.

Personally, I wouldn't bother encrypting anything but your own data,
i.e. /home. And for backup purposes it's better to make a seperate slice
for that anyway. Disk encryption is only usefull when your disk is
stolen; as long as the disk is mounted, the data is readable (if
permissions allow) anyway.

If your /home is already a separate slice, back up your data, unmount
/home and encrypt it according to geli(8). Mount your encrypted drive
and restore your backup.

A good idea might be to create a virtual machine with e.g. qemu, and
practice on that before you screw up anything important. :-)

Roland
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Re: GEOM/GELI Boot Disk Encryption

2007-06-06 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:28:48AM -0500, Eric F Crist wrote:
>  Hey folks,
> 
>  I'm trying to take a system that already has a running freebsd system (or I
>  can start over), and make the entire system encrypted.  I've found
>  instructions (freebsd manual) for creating secondary disks, but not the boot
>  disk in particular.
> 
>  Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The /boot directory must not be encrypted, so you need to put that on a
separate slice.

As for the rest, maybe the following thread will help you;
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-geom/2006-July/001401.html

The thing is that sysinstall doesn't support creating encrypted disks,
so during install, you'd have to initialize and mount the encrypted
slices manually, and then resume sysinstall.

Personally, I wouldn't bother encrypting anything but your own data,
i.e. /home. And for backup purposes it's better to make a seperate slice
for that anyway. Disk encryption is only usefull when your disk is
stolen; as long as the disk is mounted, the data is readable (if
permissions allow) anyway.

If your /home is already a separate slice, back up your data, unmount
/home and encrypt it according to geli(8). Mount your encrypted drive
and restore your backup.

A good idea might be to create a virtual machine with e.g. qemu, and
practice on that before you screw up anything important. :-)

Roland
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