Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread herbert langhans
Thanks for all the hints - now I have some point to go on. First I try
to use 8.2 from the memstick. If that fails I get such a little adapter
and install it from a normal PC (using the CD). 

I'll let you know after my homework is done. Good to know that FreeBSD has
some neutral kernel and chooses all drivers when it boots.

Late on!
herb langhans

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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Wednesday 22 February 2012 21:04:12 herbert langhans wrote:
> Hi Daemons,
> yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.
> 
> Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
> such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
> scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.
> 
> Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
> another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
> harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
> what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?
> 
> The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.
> 
> All ideas welcome, thank you
> herb langhans
> 
I did this several times before but I used to connect the hard disk via USB. 
Just get an USB case for the disk. It is much easier this way as you keep one 
notebook intact.

You have to check the drives in fstab and rc.conf.

If I remember right the rest was ok.

Erich
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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 February 2012 09:04, herbert langhans  wrote:
> Hi Daemons,
> yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.
>
> Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
> such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
> scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.
>
> Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
> another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
> harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
> what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?
>
> The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.

" http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X31 " has a lot of good advice,
though it tends to be a bit more linux-centric.

I bought a cheap ATA -> USB adapter that had a lap-top style
44-pin connector (in addition to the usual 40-pin IDE) and
installed i386 on an old X40 from a running copy of amd64
(make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld
make TARGET_ARCH=i386 installworld DESTDIR=/mnt/x40disk
&cet
after setting up and mounting the proper partitions)
It worked fine, outside of the flaky intel 2100 wireless chip.

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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:12 +0100, herbert langhans wrote:
> Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
> another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
> harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
> what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?

I've done this with a very old laptop (where I did install
its 2.5" disk using an adapter in a "normal" PC). After
that, booting performed normally. I've also used a 5.4-p12
PATA disk on a system that previously ran 7-STABLE during
a data recovery session - it also booted fine, except X
didn't come up (xorg.conf had hardcoded S3, system had
an ATI card). But the OS never did anything strange.

The only issue I say _may_ be boot loading device names
(e. g. if the disk will be ad0 in the run-laptop, but
ad4 in the install-laptop); using GPT partitioning or
labels should avoid this problem.

FreeBSD is totally agnostic of "this is not the system
I've been installed to". Hardware detection will take
place when you boot it, _not_ when you install it.

After you have installed the OS, see if it properly boots
(or if scanning the USB ports causes a kernel lock again).
Do any further installs  (ports / packages) from the new
laptop.

It's also worth mentioning that you need to have the
capability to run the same architecture (i386 or amd64)
on both machines, and use the proper install image
(e. g. don't try to install amd64 version of the OS
on a system that doesn't run it). :-)



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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Da Rock

On 02/23/12 00:04, herbert langhans wrote:

Hi Daemons,
yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.

Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.

Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?

The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.
Interesting. Could it be some setting in the bios? USB legacy option or 
such that could be stopping it?

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Re: installation troubles

2004-09-06 Thread Iuliu Pascaru
Hello sergey,

Monday, September 6, 2004, 2:20:09 PM, you wrote:

ss> message to questions.

ss> дорый день , помогите мне с установкой FREEBSD ,
ss> у меня есть диск , по идеи загрузочный , но я пробовал с него
ss> загрузиться - невышло .

ss> как начать инсталяцию с CDROM ?

Сергей, по моему ты перепутал мэйлинг-лист. Здесь говорят на
английском, так что лучше пищи сюда на ломаном английском, чем на
нормальном русском.

И еще... Здесь не совсем терпят :) тех кто не описывает в деталях свои
проблемы. В твоем случае, попробуй не говорить "у меня есть диск , по
идеи загрузочный" так как в природе таких дисков не бывает. Обычно с
диска или можно загрузиться или нет. ;) Ты уж попробуй выяснить что же
у тебя за диск. И не забудь объяснить людям что же появлялось на экране
когда ты пытался неудачно загрузиться с диска. А еще было бы неплохо
описать по шагам свои действия.

И уж если ты решил начать изучать FreeBSD то тебе просто не обойтись
без книги "FreeBSD Handbook". Ты можешь ее бесплатно скачать с
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html .
Вот если ты сначала прочитаешь в ней про установку,
будь уверен, и тебе будет легче и остальным спокойнее. :))

Кстати, я тоже недавно поставил себе FreeBSD и могу сказать что все
намного легче чем сначала кажется.

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RE: DAC960 (was RE: Installation troubles)

2003-12-18 Thread michael Alexander
Corrected subject in case someone else is searching for this later on.

> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > michael Alexander
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Installation troubles
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   I am trying to install FreeBSD (have tried 4.9, and the 5.1 
> > ISO's)  It
> > hangs at:
> > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> > 
> > My hardware:
> > Intel NA440BX MB, 512MB ram, dual PIII 350 processors
> > Mylex Acceleraid 250(DAC960)
> > Latest bios/firmware downloaded and installed on both MB and 
> > Raid card last
> > week.
> 
> This is listed as bug in redhat, that hasn't been resolved.  
> Is it also a
> bug here?  I don't know where to look to find the kernel 
> options, how to
> change them or recompile.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89527 
> Lists that 
>  from bug listing -
> The BOOT and single processor 2.4.20 kernels for RedHat 9 
> (including the
> kernel
> on the boot disks and CD) have been compiled with the 
> following two options
> off:
>  (All of the SMP kernels have these options enabled.)
> 
> # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set
> 
> Turning the above kernel options on and recompiling allows 
> the machine to
> boot.
>  end copy -
> Also that it applies to some other controllers as well.
> Could this be the same problem I'm having with FreeBSD 4.9 
> and 5.1 installs?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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DAC906 (was RE: Installation troubles)

2003-12-18 Thread michael Alexander
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> michael Alexander
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Installation troubles
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I am trying to install FreeBSD (have tried 4.9, and the 5.1 
> ISO's)  It
> hangs at:
> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> 
> My hardware:
> Intel NA440BX MB, 512MB ram, dual PIII 350 processors
> Mylex Acceleraid 250(DAC960)
> Latest bios/firmware downloaded and installed on both MB and 
> Raid card last
> week.

This is listed as bug in redhat, that hasn't been resolved.  Is it also a
bug here?  I don't know where to look to find the kernel options, how to
change them or recompile.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89527 
Lists that 
 from bug listing -
The BOOT and single processor 2.4.20 kernels for RedHat 9 (including the
kernel
on the boot disks and CD) have been compiled with the following two options
off:
 (All of the SMP kernels have these options enabled.)

# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set

Turning the above kernel options on and recompiling allows the machine to
boot.
 end copy -
Also that it applies to some other controllers as well.
Could this be the same problem I'm having with FreeBSD 4.9 and 5.1 installs?

Thanks,
Mike

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RE: Installation troubles

2003-12-16 Thread michael Alexander
> -Original Message-
> From: fbsd_user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:24 AM
> To: michael Alexander
> Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> 
> 
> Stop and think about your question,  what is the purpose of raid?
> FBSD has no problem using an normal scsi hard drive as install
> target.
> Raid has very special purpose in life, and holding the operating
> system is not one of them.

I actually thought that the OS really should reside on a Raid array, so that
in the case of a disk failure your system doesn't fully crash and require a
reinstall.

Would I run into this same issue with a supported IDE raid card?

  Since this will be a mission critical server (mail server w/imap) we don't
want to lose any time because of drive failures.  The raid card is listed as
being supported at the site.

 
> Leaving the raid card in while installing FBSD on IDE drive should
> work also.
> You can also read the list of supported devices at www.freebsd.org
> maybe your card is not supported at all.
> 
> Any how that is my option based on my experience, for what ever that
> is worth.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: michael Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> 
> Thanks, I will try that.
> 
> Does FBSD not support raid targets very well during install?
> 
> -Mike
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: fbsd_user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:37 AM
> > To: michael Alexander
> > Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> >
> >
> > If I understand your environment correctly, you are trying to use
> > the scsi raid hard drive as the target to install FBSD on. I think
> > FBSD can use that scsi raid device for data storage after FBSD is
> > installed on an IDE hard drive. Just for an learning experience, I
> > would add an IDE HD to the pc, remove the scsi card, and try
> > installing FBSD again. After FBSD is installed on the IDE HD
> replace
> > the scsi raid card and check the var/run/dmesg.boot file which
> > contains a copy of all the probe messages from the booting process
> > and look to see if FBSD found your scsi card.
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michael
> > Alexander
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:46 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> >
> > I find no virus boot detection options in the bios on this machine
> > (I have
> > seen it on our workstation machines, so I know what you are
> talking
> > about)
> >
> > Just to confirm that the raid is working (since I did add drives
> and
> > rebuild
> > it all since it was last used) I just began another Netware
> install,
> > and it
> > is happily going along, created a dos partition and formatted it.
> >
> > Next possibility?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: fbsd_user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:17 PM
> > > To: michael Alexander; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> > >
> > >
> > > Check your system bio's and turn off virus boot detection.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michael
> > > Alexander
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:17 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Installation troubles
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   I am trying to install FreeBSD (have tried 4.9, and the 5.1
> > ISO's)
> > > It
> > > hangs at:
> > > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> > >
> > > My hardware:
> > > Intel NA440BX MB, 512MB ram, dual PIII 350 processors
> > > Mylex Acceleraid 250(DAC960)
> > > Latest bios/firmware downloaded and installed on both MB and
> Raid
> > > card last
> > > week.
> > >
> > > ISO's downloaded last week as well.
> > >
> > > I know the raid card works, I had netware installed on the
> machine
> > > prior to
> > > moving it to new hardware.
> > >
> > > If there was an option to install unlisted drivers at the
> initial
> > > setup
> > > screen, where I am suppose t

RE: Installation troubles

2003-12-16 Thread michael Alexander
I find no virus boot detection options in the bios on this machine (I have
seen it on our workstation machines, so I know what you are talking about)

Just to confirm that the raid is working (since I did add drives and rebuild
it all since it was last used) I just began another Netware install, and it
is happily going along, created a dos partition and formatted it.

Next possibility?

Thanks,
Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: fbsd_user [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:17 PM
> To: michael Alexander; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Installation troubles
> 
> 
> Check your system bio's and turn off virus boot detection.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michael
> Alexander
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Installation troubles
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I am trying to install FreeBSD (have tried 4.9, and the 5.1 ISO's)
> It
> hangs at:
> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> 
> My hardware:
> Intel NA440BX MB, 512MB ram, dual PIII 350 processors
> Mylex Acceleraid 250(DAC960)
> Latest bios/firmware downloaded and installed on both MB and Raid
> card last
> week.
> 
> ISO's downloaded last week as well.
> 
> I know the raid card works, I had netware installed on the machine
> prior to
> moving it to new hardware.
> 
> If there was an option to install unlisted drivers at the initial
> setup
> screen, where I am suppose to remove drivers that do not apply, then
> I might
> be able to continue on and get this installed.  I selected FreeBSD
> because
> it seemed to be abit more up to date with releases of other software
> we
> would be running (Sendmail 8.12.10, etc)
> 
> Any suggestions where to begin troubleshooting the install?  I did
> download
> the latest drivers for the card as well, but all the install
> instructions
> I've found assume there is already a working FreeBSD system, which I
> do not
> have.
> 
> (FWIW, Redhat 9 also is failing to install, it locks up loading its
> DAC960
> driver -never even gets to any sort of config)
> 
> Thank you,
> Mike
> 
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RE: Installation troubles

2003-12-15 Thread fbsd_user
Check your system bio's and turn off virus boot detection.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michael
Alexander
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Installation troubles

Hi,

  I am trying to install FreeBSD (have tried 4.9, and the 5.1 ISO's)
It
hangs at:
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle

My hardware:
Intel NA440BX MB, 512MB ram, dual PIII 350 processors
Mylex Acceleraid 250(DAC960)
Latest bios/firmware downloaded and installed on both MB and Raid
card last
week.

ISO's downloaded last week as well.

I know the raid card works, I had netware installed on the machine
prior to
moving it to new hardware.

If there was an option to install unlisted drivers at the initial
setup
screen, where I am suppose to remove drivers that do not apply, then
I might
be able to continue on and get this installed.  I selected FreeBSD
because
it seemed to be abit more up to date with releases of other software
we
would be running (Sendmail 8.12.10, etc)

Any suggestions where to begin troubleshooting the install?  I did
download
the latest drivers for the card as well, but all the install
instructions
I've found assume there is already a working FreeBSD system, which I
do not
have.

(FWIW, Redhat 9 also is failing to install, it locks up loading its
DAC960
driver -never even gets to any sort of config)

Thank you,
Mike

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