Re: Internet 2

2004-04-11 Thread Peter Schuller
Hello,

 DestGatewayFlags   
 Refs Use Netif

 Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
 105rl0
 12.103.21/24   link#1   UC   1
 0rl0
 12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
 2rl0
 localhost   localhost   UH   0
 0lo0
 192.168.1link#2   UC   1
 0dc0
 kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0 0
 dc0

I don't see a default route anywhere in there. Add one with 'route add default 
IP_OF_THE_GATEWAY. Without a default gateway you won't be able to reach 
anything for which there is not a specific entry in the routing table.

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Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
Yes there is one, the first line is not :

Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
105rl0

but :

Default12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
105rl0


Sorry about that ! But it was a very long text to copy !




I don't see a default route.
'netstat -rn' should return a first line like:
default 12.103.21.1


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RazorOnFreeBSD
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Internet 2

Hi everyone,

I bring an old post again because I have now more information to give
this.

My post was this one :






I just setup a freebsd box with the 5.1 release to be a
gateway/firewall.
The installation was smooth and to setup the gateway/firewall with nat a
lot of sources are available on Internet.
Here is my problem, I can't connect to Internet from the Freebsd box.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP wich means I don't
need to run PPP to connect.

FreeBSD Internet NIC is : 12.103.21.x

When I type ifconfig my NIC looks fine, up and running :

rl0 : 12.103.21.x

For information the freebsd box contains 2 NIC's one for Internet the
other for the LAN (192.168.1.1)

If I ping myself no problem everything's fine, but I can't ping a web
address. I don't know if it is possible under unix but I use to ping
www.yahoo.com for example to know if it's well connected. But the best
proof is when I try to install samba my freebsd gives a time out
reaching the samba server on the web

I have setup a firewall_type=OPEN because i'm still testing but I also
setup natd and gateway variables in the rc.conf file to what is needed
up to majority of websites about firewall and gateways with Freebsd.
I also rebuilt the kernel up to those websites wich was fine, and I
created a natd.conf file.
One more thing I think I didn't use the Domain variable when I set up
the NIC from sysinstall don't know if it's important!
Well I don't understand why it doesn't work The tech guy from att
hotline told me it's easy as setup a LAN yes you're right my LAN
works fine but not Internet! :S

Please somebody help me 






And I now have those outputs and conf file to go with :






Here is my netstat -r output :

DestGatewayFlags
Refs
Use Netif

Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
105rl0
12.103.21/24   link#1   UC   1
0rl0
12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
2rl0
localhost   localhost   UH
0
0lo0
192.168.1link#2   UC   1
0dc0
kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0 0
dc0

--
ifconfig outputs :

rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 12.103.21.x netmask 0xff00 broadcast 12.103.21.255
 inet6 ...
 ether ...
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full duplex)
 status: Active

dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 inet6 ...
 ether ...
 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
 status: Active


--
resolv.conf :

domainRazor
nameserver  12.127.16.83 #those two ip's are my current dns server
under
the windows station... they work.
nameserver  12.127.17.83

--
hosts :

::1localhost
localhost.my.domain
127.0.0.1localhost
localhost.my.domain
192.168.1.1Razor.my.domain Razor
192.168.1.15  razor_work.my.domainrazor_work
192.168.1.16  Kitty.my.domain  Kitty

--
rc.conf :

defaultrouter=12.103.21.1
gateway_enable=YEShostname=Razor


Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
Are you sure about that ?
Because Windows XP recognize my LAN as a 10MBits/s and the Internet WAN as
100MBits/s.
I don't know why but it works with Windows.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RazorOnFreeBSD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Internet 2


 switch your dc and rl in your rc.conf.

 your ifconfig shows that dc0 is plugged into your DSL
 (media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)), so your
 rc.conf should read:

 ifconfig_dc0=inet 12.103.21.x netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0




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Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread Peter Giessel
There is one way to tell for sure.  Unplug your lan then run ifconfig -a
again and see which one is no longer active.  status on whichever
interface is plugged into the lan should change from active to no carrier.
 
On Thursday, April 08, 2004, at 04:58AM, RazorOnFreeBSD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you sure about that ?
Because Windows XP recognize my LAN as a 10MBits/s and the Internet WAN as
100MBits/s.
I don't know why but it works with Windows.

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Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
I did that already and rl0 is my Internet NIC for what I saw.

Thank you for helping so.


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RazorOnFreeBSD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Internet 2


 There is one way to tell for sure.  Unplug your lan then run ifconfig -a
 again and see which one is no longer active.  status on whichever
 interface is plugged into the lan should change from active to no
carrier.

 On Thursday, April 08, 2004, at 04:58AM, RazorOnFreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you sure about that ?
 Because Windows XP recognize my LAN as a 10MBits/s and the Internet WAN
as
 100MBits/s.
 I don't know why but it works with Windows.



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RE: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread JJB
You state.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP which means I
don't need to run PPP to connect.

That is not true for 4.9 and I have not read anything which changes
that for 5.x.

Is 5.1 an buildworld to existing system where your setup worked
previously? or install from scratch using cdrom? Explain.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
RazorOnFreeBSD
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Internet 2

Hi everyone,

I bring an old post again because I have now more information to
give this.

My post was this one :






I just setup a freebsd box with the 5.1 release to be a
gateway/firewall.
The installation was smooth and to setup the gateway/firewall with
nat a lot of sources are available on Internet.
Here is my problem, I can't connect to Internet from the Freebsd
box.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP wich means I don't
need to run PPP to connect.

FreeBSD Internet NIC is : 12.103.21.x

When I type ifconfig my NIC looks fine, up and running :

rl0 : 12.103.21.x

For information the freebsd box contains 2 NIC's one for Internet
the other for the LAN (192.168.1.1)

If I ping myself no problem everything's fine, but I can't ping a
web address. I don't know if it is possible under unix but I use to
ping www.yahoo.com for example to know if it's well connected. But
the best proof is when I try to install samba my freebsd gives a
time out reaching the samba server on the web

I have setup a firewall_type=OPEN because i'm still testing but I
also setup natd and gateway variables in the rc.conf file to what is
needed up to majority of websites about firewall and gateways with
Freebsd.
I also rebuilt the kernel up to those websites wich was fine, and I
created a natd.conf file.
One more thing I think I didn't use the Domain variable when I set
up the NIC from sysinstall don't know if it's important!
Well I don't understand why it doesn't work The tech guy from
att hotline told me it's easy as setup a LAN yes you're right
my LAN works fine but not Internet! :S

Please somebody help me 






And I now have those outputs and conf file to go with :






Here is my netstat -r output :

DestGatewayFlags
Refs
Use Netif

Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
105rl0
12.103.21/24   link#1   UC
1
0rl0
12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
2rl0
localhost   localhost   UH
0
0lo0
192.168.1link#2   UC
1
0dc0
kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0
0
dc0

--
ifconfig outputs :

rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 12.103.21.x netmask 0xff00 broadcast 12.103.21.255
 inet6 ...
 ether ...
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full duplex)
 status: Active

dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 inet6 ...
 ether ...
 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
 status: Active


--
resolv.conf :

domainRazor
nameserver  12.127.16.83 #those two ip's are my current dns
server under
the windows station... they work.
nameserver  12.127.17.83

--
hosts :

::1localhost
localhost.my.domain
127.0.0.1localhost
localhost.my.domain
192.168.1.1Razor.my.domain Razor
192.168.1.15  razor_work.my.domainrazor_work
192.168.1.16  Kitty.my.domain  Kitty

--
rc.conf :

defaultrouter=12.103.21.1
gateway_enable=YEShostname=Razor

ifconfig_rl0=inet 12.103.21.x netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_dc0=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
inetd_enable=NO
kern_securelevel=2
kern_securelevel_enable=NO # I did that because it was required to
rebuild
the kernel up to a website
keymap=fr.iso.acc

Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread RazorOnFreeBSD
The hotline guy told me exactly those words... for sure I don't know if he
right or not but what I'm sure is that I don't use PPP with windows and the
same connection.
But I installed the 5.1 from scratch
And I tried to follow the steps from a FreeBSD book and from official
websites for the network then.
So as you can see I'm a lost newbie And I really need this gateway
:s


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From: JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RazorOnFreeBSD [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: RE: Internet 2


 You state.
 I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP which means I
 don't need to run PPP to connect.

 That is not true for 4.9 and I have not read anything which changes
 that for 5.x.

 Is 5.1 an buildworld to existing system where your setup worked
 previously? or install from scratch using cdrom? Explain.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 RazorOnFreeBSD
 Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Internet 2

 Hi everyone,

 I bring an old post again because I have now more information to
 give this.

 My post was this one :

 
 
 
 

 I just setup a freebsd box with the 5.1 release to be a
 gateway/firewall.
 The installation was smooth and to setup the gateway/firewall with
 nat a lot of sources are available on Internet.
 Here is my problem, I can't connect to Internet from the Freebsd
 box.
 I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP wich means I don't
 need to run PPP to connect.

 FreeBSD Internet NIC is : 12.103.21.x

 When I type ifconfig my NIC looks fine, up and running :

 rl0 : 12.103.21.x

 For information the freebsd box contains 2 NIC's one for Internet
 the other for the LAN (192.168.1.1)

 If I ping myself no problem everything's fine, but I can't ping a
 web address. I don't know if it is possible under unix but I use to
 ping www.yahoo.com for example to know if it's well connected. But
 the best proof is when I try to install samba my freebsd gives a
 time out reaching the samba server on the web

 I have setup a firewall_type=OPEN because i'm still testing but I
 also setup natd and gateway variables in the rc.conf file to what is
 needed up to majority of websites about firewall and gateways with
 Freebsd.
 I also rebuilt the kernel up to those websites wich was fine, and I
 created a natd.conf file.
 One more thing I think I didn't use the Domain variable when I set
 up the NIC from sysinstall don't know if it's important!
 Well I don't understand why it doesn't work The tech guy from
 att hotline told me it's easy as setup a LAN yes you're right
 my LAN works fine but not Internet! :S

 Please somebody help me 

 
 
 
 

 And I now have those outputs and conf file to go with :

 
 
 
 

 Here is my netstat -r output :

 DestGatewayFlags
 Refs
 Use Netif

 Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
 105rl0
 12.103.21/24   link#1   UC
 1
 0rl0
 12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
 2rl0
 localhost   localhost   UH
 0
 0lo0
 192.168.1link#2   UC
 1
 0dc0
 kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0
 0
 dc0

 --
 ifconfig outputs :

 rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  inet 12.103.21.x netmask 0xff00 broadcast 12.103.21.255
  inet6 ...
  ether ...
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full duplex)
  status: Active

 dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
  inet6 ...
  ether ...
  media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
  status: Active


 --
 resolv.conf :

 domainRazor
 nameserver  12.127.16.83 #those two ip's are my current dns
 server under
 the windows station... they work.
 nameserver  12.127.17.83

Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread Peter Risdon
JJB wrote:

You state.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP which means I
don't need to run PPP to connect.
That is not true for 4.9 and I have not read anything which changes
that for 5.x.
 

This doesn't have anything to do with the version of FreeBSD he is 
running. I assume from the fact that he connects with an ethernet cable 
that he is using a dsl modem/router which negotiates the connection and 
if necessary will be running ppp. In that case, there is no need for him 
to run ppp.


Hi everyone,

I bring an old post again because I have now more information to
give this.
My post was this one :





I just setup a freebsd box with the 5.1 release to be a
gateway/firewall.
The installation was smooth and to setup the gateway/firewall with
nat a lot of sources are available on Internet.
Here is my problem, I can't connect to Internet from the Freebsd
box.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP wich means I don't
need to run PPP to connect.
 

No, that means you don't have to run dhcp client.

FreeBSD Internet NIC is : 12.103.21.x

When I type ifconfig my NIC looks fine, up and running :

rl0 : 12.103.21.x

For information the freebsd box contains 2 NIC's one for Internet
the other for the LAN (192.168.1.1)
If I ping myself no problem everything's fine, but I can't ping a
web address. I don't know if it is possible under unix but I use to
ping www.yahoo.com for example to know if it's well connected. But
the best proof is when I try to install samba my freebsd gives a
time out reaching the samba server on the web
 

Yes, ping is possible under unix. Try pinging a known numeric ip address 
first. If that doesn't work, you have a routing/connectivity problem. If 
it does, and you can't then ping a hostname like www.yahoo.com, you'd 
want to check your nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf

To start with, assuming that 12.103.21.1 is your dsl router (and it 
needs to be for your configuration to have any chance of working), can 
you ping that? Next, can you ping, say, 12.127.16.83?


I also rebuilt the kernel up to those websites wich was fine, and I
created a natd.conf file.
 

I don't know what this means.

Here is my netstat -r output :

DestGatewayFlags
Refs
Use Netif
Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc   2
105rl0
12.103.21/24   link#1   UC
1
0rl0
12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
2rl0
localhost   localhost   UH
0
0lo0
192.168.1link#2   UC
1
0dc0
kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0
0
dc0
 

There's no default route. You can try setting one explicitly on the 
command line but you really want a solution that will survive reboots. 
If you've been mucking about with ifconfig type statements, try a reboot 
to clear the air, then the ping tests (numeric ip of router - numeric ip 
of nameserver - hostname).

I would also recommend you set a proper hostname in /etc/rc.conf - 
preferably a real one...

PWR.
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Re: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread Remko Lodder
Peter Risdon wrote:
snipped all because it's not relevant in my reply
He also mentioned that with arp -n -a the ip adres of the gateway (which 
is defined) has no mac adres. So there could be filtering or something 
in the way that prevents you from accessing the mac adres of the router.

tcpdump -i your external if
do you see any traffic going in and out of that thingy?
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www.mostly-harmless.nl A Dutch community for helping newcomers on the 
hackerscene
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RE: Internet 2

2004-04-08 Thread JJB
Well I don't know where you get your info from, but all the members
of my local FBSD club who use ATT DSL have to use pppoe  and
dhclient to connect their FBSD boxes to get working connection.  ATT
assigns static ip address to DSL dummy modem and MS/XP does it's own
internal thing to get ppp connection.  All the symptoms stated by
Razor seem to indicate your assumption is wrong by miles.  He can
not reach public internet because he has no connection. Adding hard
coded ifconfig statements to rc.conf will not change that fact or
how his DSL modem is working. And besides nobody picked up on his
hostname= is wrong also, has to be FQDN.

Razor, first thing you do on new virgin install is to ping to public
internet site like Freebsd.org to verify you have internet
connection before you start adding firewall or ports. Your second
mistake was to install 5.x which is intended for users who can debug
kernel code. You are in way over your head. All the 5.x releases are
full of development bugs  and you are experienced enough to debug
them.

If I was you I would blow away the FBSD system you have installed
and re-stall using the 4.9 stable production version.  Why fight the
development bugs in 5.x?



-Original Message-
From: Peter Risdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RazorOnFreeBSD; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Internet 2

JJB wrote:

You state.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP which means I
don't need to run PPP to connect.

That is not true for 4.9 and I have not read anything which changes
that for 5.x.



This doesn't have anything to do with the version of FreeBSD he is
running. I assume from the fact that he connects with an ethernet
cable
that he is using a dsl modem/router which negotiates the connection
and
if necessary will be running ppp. In that case, there is no need for
him
to run ppp.



Hi everyone,

I bring an old post again because I have now more information to
give this.

My post was this one :

---
-

---
-


I just setup a freebsd box with the 5.1 release to be a
gateway/firewall.
The installation was smooth and to setup the gateway/firewall with
nat a lot of sources are available on Internet.
Here is my problem, I can't connect to Internet from the Freebsd
box.
I have DSL and my ISP is ATT, I have a static IP wich means I
don't
need to run PPP to connect.



No, that means you don't have to run dhcp client.

FreeBSD Internet NIC is : 12.103.21.x

When I type ifconfig my NIC looks fine, up and running :

rl0 : 12.103.21.x

For information the freebsd box contains 2 NIC's one for Internet
the other for the LAN (192.168.1.1)

If I ping myself no problem everything's fine, but I can't ping a
web address. I don't know if it is possible under unix but I use to
ping www.yahoo.com for example to know if it's well connected.
But
the best proof is when I try to install samba my freebsd gives a
time out reaching the samba server on the web



Yes, ping is possible under unix. Try pinging a known numeric ip
address
first. If that doesn't work, you have a routing/connectivity
problem. If
it does, and you can't then ping a hostname like www.yahoo.com,
you'd
want to check your nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf

To start with, assuming that 12.103.21.1 is your dsl router (and it
needs to be for your configuration to have any chance of working),
can
you ping that? Next, can you ping, say, 12.127.16.83?


I also rebuilt the kernel up to those websites wich was fine, and I
created a natd.conf file.



I don't know what this means.


Here is my netstat -r output :

DestGatewayFlags
Refs
Use Netif

Razor  12.103.21.1  UGSc
2
105rl0
12.103.21/24   link#1   UC
1
0rl0
12.103.21.1 link#1   UHLW 3
2rl0
localhost   localhost   UH
0
0lo0
192.168.1link#2   UC
1
0dc0
kitty.my.domain00:06:5b:b4:41:1c UHLW 0
0
dc0



There's no default route. You can try setting one explicitly on the
command line but you really want a solution that will survive
reboots.
If you've been mucking about with ifconfig type statements, try a
reboot
to clear the air, then the ping tests (numeric ip of router -
numeric ip
of nameserver - hostname).

I would also recommend you set a proper hostname in /etc/rc.conf -
preferably a real one...


PWR.

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