RE: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

2003-07-15 Thread fbsd_user
I have a USR sportster 14.4 external serial modem which works fine
under FBSD 4.8.

Dip switches 3-7-8 are set to 'on' which is down, all others are set
to off which is up.
3 = display result codes
7 = load factory defaults
8 = smart mode

Modem has to be powered on before you boot FBSD box modem is cabled
to.  Modem is found and listed in /var/run/dmesg.boot file. During
PC post process a summary PC hardware config screen shows the irq's
assigned to hardware. Check this summary screen to verify the irq
assigned to modem is not shared with other hardware. If it is, go
into pc bios to change, be sure bios plug-n-play option is disabled,
and serial ports are enabled.  I use TIP command to issue Hayes AT
commands. If you get an OK response to AT command, then you are
talking to modem just fine and it's working.  If you still have
problems, post dmesg.boot file and use the script command to log
your TIP command test output to a file and post that also. Most PC's
have 2 serial ports, try cabling modem to different port and test
again. Can you run mswindows on the pc to verify serial port and
modem work.


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Subject: Re: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sounds like you have echo turned off in the modems internal prom
 setting. Use Hayes AT command to turn on echo function of modem
 hardware.   Did these modems you tested work ok in FBSD 4.8?

I tried the external Sportster under 4.8 but after it wouldn't work,
I upgraded to 5.1 to lower the chances of having to go through this
again when I did switch.

I have modem manuals and played with dip switches and lots of AT
commands including ATE1 (keyboard commmands), ATF0 (I think
that's only for data that the modem sends out the phone line),
ATX4
(result codes), re-init commands ATZ, ATZ1-ATZ5, ATF1, and many
others.  I've been through this several times before (on Linux) and
think I know what I'm doing (except I've never understood the
interactions of stty and serial-port-using programs like terminal
emulators.  It's strange that ATI gives it's results if I press
keys, but AT or $ don't.

I've found a place to do my FAXing, so the pressure's off on getting
this fixed.

BTW, my other question was about the dmesg files, but I should have
thought of the HISTORY_SIZE thing for at least the console.
(/var/run/dmesg.boot has 943 lines of nothing I care about.)
Someone suggested kern.consmsgbuf_size=16384.

Thanks.
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Re: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

2003-07-15 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a USR sportster 14.4 external serial modem which works fine
 under FBSD 4.8.

 Dip switches 3-7-8 are set to 'on' which is down, all others are set
 to off which is up.
 3 = display result codes
 7 = load factory defaults
 8 = smart mode

Which my 14.4 internal's manual recommends for software flow control
(which is recommended only if the cable doesn't support hardware
handshaking which almost all cables do support).  Except it recommends
switch 5 be on/down too.  It doesn't bother to describe the switches,
but my other manual says it's for auto answer so it's position
shouldn't matter for this problem.  Of course, my internal modem has
no switches at all, so it can't help with the internal modem problem.

FreeBSD surely should support hardware flow control (it's in stty),
but I guess I can try an XON/XOFF configuration; I don't have a
distinct memory of trying that on the external modem.

 Modem has to be powered on before you boot FBSD box modem is cabled
 to. 

Now, THAT could be my problem in the case of the external modem.  I
thought the drivers were smarter than that; rebooting is nasty, when
serial lines are hot-pluggable.  I'll try the external modem again.

 again. Can you run mswindows on the pc to verify serial port and
 modem work.

I've no mswindows to run, but I've tried three different serial ports
on the motherboard and ISA card.  I've probably tried the other things
you suggested; I hoped there would be some hints about software
configuration that I had missed.  But I can do more experiments with
other modems and other computers and Linux to determine whether the
problem is in the hardware or software.

Thanks for the hints.
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RE: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

2003-07-14 Thread fbsd_user
Sounds like you have echo turned off in the modems internal prom
setting. Use Hayes AT command to turn on echo function of modem
hardware.   Did these modems you tested work ok in FBSD 4.8?

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Subject: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

I hooked up an external 28.8 modem after continuity-cheking the
cable
but the lights didn't seem right, as I remember them. (I've not use
my
modem for several years.)  Modem doesn't respond to terminal
emulator
commands and seems broken, so I throw in an internal (non-winmodem)
Sportster (that I've just seen working OK under Linux).  Boot
message
looks OK as it flashes by; it identifies the proper UART, IRQs, etc,
(but not an ID string from the modem -- I don't know if that's
expected or not).  I hand-set the COM # and IRQ and made things
match in /boot/device.hints.  And it sort of works.  I'm using
/dev/cuaa3.

When I run a terminal emulator (tip, seyon, and minicom, so far), I
get the same behavior: 1) Each character typed isn't seen until I
type
the next character.  2) Giving it the AT command (or most others),
it never says OK, but a few info commands, like ATI6 will slowly
spit out their reply (even ending with OK) if I bang away on the
keys, one or two characters per key.  Looks like some kind of
flow-control problem, but I've tried lots of fixes (using the
terminal
emulator's config controls) and always get the same behavior.  I've
even messed with some of the stty stuff, though I think that
should
be overruled by the terminal emulators (except maybe tip, which I
barely know).

Any hints?  Thanks.
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Re: Modem replies to commands mostly not seen.

2003-07-14 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sounds like you have echo turned off in the modems internal prom
 setting. Use Hayes AT command to turn on echo function of modem
 hardware.   Did these modems you tested work ok in FBSD 4.8?

I tried the external Sportster under 4.8 but after it wouldn't work,
I upgraded to 5.1 to lower the chances of having to go through this
again when I did switch.

I have modem manuals and played with dip switches and lots of AT
commands including ATE1 (keyboard commmands), ATF0 (I think
that's only for data that the modem sends out the phone line), ATX4
(result codes), re-init commands ATZ, ATZ1-ATZ5, ATF1, and many
others.  I've been through this several times before (on Linux) and
think I know what I'm doing (except I've never understood the
interactions of stty and serial-port-using programs like terminal
emulators.  It's strange that ATI gives it's results if I press
keys, but AT or $ don't.

I've found a place to do my FAXing, so the pressure's off on getting
this fixed.

BTW, my other question was about the dmesg files, but I should have
thought of the HISTORY_SIZE thing for at least the console.
(/var/run/dmesg.boot has 943 lines of nothing I care about.)
Someone suggested kern.consmsgbuf_size=16384.

Thanks.
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