Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
On Thursday 07 February 2008 15:29:29 Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > > 100 times). > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. I > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just to > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop > adding new stuff to the disk. > Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then > most people. I wanted to say thanks to everyone who answered this one. I figured that the problems shouldn't be good, but wanted to get some input from those who'd used smartd before. Thanks again, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mel > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:29 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Andrew Falanga > Subject: Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages > > Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your > prayers then > most people. I'd pray the disk is still in warranty!! ;-) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Falanga > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:15 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages > > > HI, > > I just installed smartmontools from ports on my churches system > and I think > I'm glad I did. However, not being completely familiar with it, I'd like > some help with the messages (and errors) that have been > discovered thus far > (since I installed it on Saturday, yikes!). > > First was this, and it's repeated in the log /var/log/messages frequently: > > Feb 4 18:19:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0, 12 Currently > unreadable (pending) sectors > > > Even though this entry comes from today, this was e-mailed to me > within hours > of enabling smartd on Saturday. I understand what sectors are and I know > what unreadable is. I was wondering what "pending" meant. > > Then, yesterday I was e-mailed this one: > > Feb 3 02:49:44 whitbap smartd[64783]: Device: /dev/ad0, > Self-Test Log error > count increased from 0 to 1 > > Using smartctl I found that option "-l" with the argument > "selftest" would > give me more information. This is what I found: > > whitbap# smartctl -l selftest /dev/ad0 > smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.2] Copyright (C) > 2002-6 Bruce > Allen > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining > LifeTime(hours) > LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% > 60397 > 67413 > # 2 Short offline Completed: read failure 70% > 60373 > 67413 > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > unreadable > sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > 100 times). > It means replace the drive immediately. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
On Feb 7, 2008 3:38 PM, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: > > > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer > this > > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the > log ( > > > > 100 times). > > > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. > I > > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just > to > > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop > adding > > new stuff to the disk. > > Agree. If it is seeing repeated errors, it is most likely about to > die totally at any time. > I suspected as much but being new to smartmon wanted to make sure. I was especially curious to find out what a "pending" sector was. I understand a sector, but the pending part was curious for me. I was talking with a guy at work that does some file system stuff and he told me that if SMART is giving you errors, it's not good. I have to admit, I wished something like this existed in '92 when I started as a service tech for a small, local computer company in upstate NY. It would have made life a lot easier. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:29:29PM +0100, Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > > 100 times). > > If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. I > usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just to > rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop adding > new stuff to the disk. Agree. If it is seeing repeated errors, it is most likely about to die totally at any time. jerry > Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then > most people. > -- > Mel > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Please help in diagnosing these smartmon messages
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 04:14:39 Andrew Falanga wrote: > I know it's probably near impossible to know exactly how much longer this > drive has, but how serious are these errors? As I mentioned, the > unreadable sectors on the hard drive are repeated many times in the log ( > > 100 times). If it's not dead already, it can be when you read this or in 2-3 months. I usually change the cable on the first read error I see popping up, just to rule out the cable. If the errors persist, it's time to order and stop adding new stuff to the disk. Since it's a church disk, you might have better luck with your prayers then most people. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
