Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000: On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 23:03, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000: um ... what's wrong with doing this in /etc/make.conf? NO_BIND = true NO_OPENSSL = true NO_SENDMAIL = true and so on.

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-13 Thread Duncan Anker
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 20:52, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000: This sounds like a different issue - my suggestion was for how to avoid putting sendmail into the system when you build it. not really a different issue. the OP wanted to be able to

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-14 12:01:08 +1000: On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 20:52, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000: This sounds like a different issue - my suggestion was for how to avoid putting sendmail into the system when you build it. not

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-12 Thread Duncan Anker
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 23:03, Roman Neuhauser wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000: um ... what's wrong with doing this in /etc/make.conf? NO_BIND = true NO_OPENSSL = true NO_SENDMAIL = true and so on. Seems to be exactly what you want to do No it's

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-10 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000: On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 00:42, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1.freebsd.org itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out. When

RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-08 Thread Daniel Goepp
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:26:53PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: on 1/6/03 10:59 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:29:15PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: [...] The problem came up when my VPS provider did a system upgrade. This process left everything I had

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-08 Thread Kurt Bigler
[quoting cleaned up] on 1/8/03 12:50 AM, Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/7/03 11:29 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:26:53PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: on 1/6/03 10:59 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-07 Thread Jim Mock
On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 at 22:32:42 -0500, Daniel Goepp wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: I don't know why you're talking about cvsup; cvsup is not relevant to this; it is a method for downloading files, primarily from cvs archives. What you're looking for is changing the base system itself; how

RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-07 Thread Daniel Goepp
On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 at 22:32:42 -0500, Daniel Goepp wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: I don't know why you're talking about cvsup; cvsup is not relevant to this; it is a method for downloading files, primarily from cvs archives. What you're looking for is changing the base system itself; how

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-07 Thread Kurt Bigler
on 1/6/03 10:59 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:29:15PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: [...] The problem came up when my VPS provider did a system upgrade. This process left everything I had intact except I lost my sendmail soft link which had pointed to

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-07 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:26:53PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: on 1/6/03 10:59 PM, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:29:15PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: [...] The problem came up when my VPS provider did a system upgrade. This process left everything I

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1.freebsd.org itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out. When are they going to make the FreeBSD install configurable enough to not have to include sendmail, bind, openssl,

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Duncan Anker
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 00:42, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1.freebsd.org itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out. When are they going to make the FreeBSD install configurable

RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Daniel Goepp
-freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Duncan Anker Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:53 PM To: FreeBSD Questions; Daniel Goepp Cc: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 00:42, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1.freebsd.org itself

RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Daniel Goepp
list. Thanks. Peace. -Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:42 AM To: Daniel Goepp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Kurt Bigler
: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:42 AM To: Daniel Goepp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So mx1.freebsd.org itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out. When

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Then do it. If it works, I doubt there will be much trouble getting it accepted into the system. Well yes, I would love to. Plus, why invent the wheel. CVSup is

RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Daniel Goepp
with. -Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lowell Gilbert

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-01-06 19:48, Daniel Goepp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Then do it. If it works, I doubt there will be much trouble getting it accepted into the system. [...] If someone can save me some time in searching, where is the source that controls what is installed by

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Mark
Not to miss out on the party either, but I'd like it on record that there are also people, like me, who like things like sendmail and Perl, etc, included in the FreeBSD distribution. :) I had to install these packages anyway, and found it very useful to see them already included. I recompiled

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
Adam Maas wrote: Definitely keep them included, but not so closely tied to the core installation. Perhaps take a page from Slackware, which includes them by default, even on a minimal install, but you can manually deselect them if you don't wish sendmail (or bind, etc). See

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Jack L. Stone
). --Adam - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail Not to miss out on the party either, but I'd like it on record that there are also people, like me, who like things like sendmail

Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

2003-01-06 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 05:29:15PM -0800, Kurt Bigler wrote: [...] The problem came up when my VPS provider did a system upgrade. This process left everything I had intact except I lost my sendmail soft link which had pointed to the sendmail replacement provided by qmail. The link was