RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-10 Thread Stacy Olivas

 
  In the /etc/aliases file look for the following lines:
 
  # Pretty much everything else in this file points to root,
  so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or
  forwarding # root's email from here.
 
  # root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (should be at the top of the file.
 
  make sure that you have a line in it like this (either
  uncomment the line by remving the # or add a new line like:
 
  root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  save it and then run the newaliases command.. it will
  rebuild the aliases database.
 
  For more info, do a man newaliases.
 
  Of course, this only works *if* you have the sendmail daemon
  running. bg
 
  Enjoy!
 
  -Stacy

 You must have missed the begning of this thread (before it got snipped
 anyway).  I did that.  Exactly as you suggested.  This was of
 course the
 first thing I did.  I also read man newaliases, and every
 other relevant
 man page I could find.  I also tried putting a .forward file in root's
 home directory with my external email address in it.

Hmm.. Sorry, my bad. :)

Strange that it didn't want to work for you..   what does the
/var/log/maillog show?


 
  Hi!
 
   I am having trouble redirecting root's email to an external email
   account.  This is a 4.7-Release box with not very
  modifications done
   to the standard installation.
 
   When I look at /var/spool/clientmqueue, it is full of
  messages.  Here
   is a snippet of one:
 
   MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
 
  I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even
  have the MTA process running? Can you successfully telnet
  localhost.visimation.com port 25? What sendmail related lines
  do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
  --
  Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
  * All wiyht.  Rho sritched
  mg kegboawd awound?

 Telnet to port 25 of localhost.visimation.com works.  In my
 /etc/rc.conf
 the only entry I have for sendmail is:
 sendmail_enable=YES

 Thanks for the help.  This is really frusrating me. :(

 Adam


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Toomas Aas
Hi!

 I am having trouble redirecting root's email to an external email
 account.  This is a 4.7-Release box with not very modifications done to
 the standard installation.

 When I look at /var/spool/clientmqueue, it is full of messages.  Here is
 a snippet of one:

 MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even have the MTA 
process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com 
port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
--
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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Stacy Olivas
In the /etc/aliases file look for the following lines:

# Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so
# you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or forwarding
# root's email from here.

# root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(should be at the top of the file.

make sure that you have a line in it like this (either uncomment the line by
remving the # or add a new line like:

root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

save it and then run the newaliases command.. it will rebuild the aliases
database.

For more info, do a man newaliases.

Of course, this only works *if* you have the sendmail daemon running. bg

Enjoy!

-Stacy
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Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:30 PM
To: Adam Lofstedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redirecting root's email


Hi!

 I am having trouble redirecting root's email to an external email
 account.  This is a 4.7-Release box with not very modifications done to
 the standard installation.

 When I look at /var/spool/clientmqueue, it is full of messages.  Here is
 a snippet of one:

 MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even have the MTA
process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com
port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
--
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* All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegboawd awound?


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Daniel Goepp
Have you tried Postfix?  Many feel the configuration is a bit more
friendly.

-Daniel


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Lofstedt
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:07 PM
To: 'Toomas Aas'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Redirecting root's email

 
 I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even 
 have the MTA 
 process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com 
 port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
 --
 Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 
 http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
 * All wiyht.  Rho sritched 
 mg kegboawd awound?
 
Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
localhost.visimation.com gives this:
Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
Trying 127.0.0.1
Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)

I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
the Standard installation.


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Adam Lofstedt
 
 I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even 
 have the MTA 
 process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com 
 port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
 --
 Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 
 http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
 * All wiyht.  Rho sritched 
 mg kegboawd awound?
 
Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
localhost.visimation.com gives this:
Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
Trying 127.0.0.1
Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)

I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
the Standard installation.


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Matthew Emmerton
[ dah!  Don't top-post! ]
 
  I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even
  have the MTA
  process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com
  port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
  --
  Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
  * All wiyht.  Rho sritched
  mg kegboawd awound?
 
 Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
 localhost.visimation.com gives this:
 Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
 Trying 127.0.0.1
 Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
 2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)

 I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
 thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
 the Standard installation.

Usually to redirect root's email, you edit /etc/mail/aliases to have an
entry that looks like this:

root:matt

and then run 'newalises' for it to take effect.  If you want to redirect
root's email to a non-local mailbox, then you have to make an entry in
/etc/mail/virtusertable, like this:

root[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and then 'cd /etc/mail' and 'make' which will do the trick.

--
Matt Emmerton


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Adam Lofstedt
 -Original Message-
 From: Stacy Olivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:41 PM
 To: 'Adam Lofstedt'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Redirecting root's email
 
 
 In the /etc/aliases file look for the following lines:
 
 # Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, 
 so # you would do well in either reading root's mailbox or 
 forwarding # root's email from here.
 
 # root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (should be at the top of the file.
 
 make sure that you have a line in it like this (either 
 uncomment the line by remving the # or add a new line like:
 
 root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 save it and then run the newaliases command.. it will 
 rebuild the aliases database.
 
 For more info, do a man newaliases.
 
 Of course, this only works *if* you have the sendmail daemon 
 running. bg
 
 Enjoy!
 
 -Stacy

You must have missed the begning of this thread (before it got snipped
anyway).  I did that.  Exactly as you suggested.  This was of course the
first thing I did.  I also read man newaliases, and every other relevant
man page I could find.  I also tried putting a .forward file in root's
home directory with my external email address in it.

 
 Hi!
 
  I am having trouble redirecting root's email to an external email 
  account.  This is a 4.7-Release box with not very 
 modifications done 
  to the standard installation.
 
  When I look at /var/spool/clientmqueue, it is full of 
 messages.  Here 
  is a snippet of one:
 
  MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
 
 I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even 
 have the MTA process running? Can you successfully telnet 
 localhost.visimation.com port 25? What sendmail related lines 
 do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
 --
 Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 
 http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
 * All wiyht.  Rho sritched 
 mg kegboawd awound?

Telnet to port 25 of localhost.visimation.com works.  In my /etc/rc.conf
the only entry I have for sendmail is:
sendmail_enable=YES

Thanks for the help.  This is really frusrating me. :(

Adam


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 08:13 PM 1.6.2003 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
[ dah!  Don't top-post! ]
 
  I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even
  have the MTA
  process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com
  port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
  --
  Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
  * All wiyht.  Rho sritched
  mg kegboawd awound?
 
 Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
 localhost.visimation.com gives this:
 Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
 Trying 127.0.0.1
 Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
 2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)

 I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
 thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
 the Standard installation.

Usually to redirect root's email, you edit /etc/mail/aliases to have an
entry that looks like this:

root:matt

and then run 'newalises' for it to take effect.  If you want to redirect
root's email to a non-local mailbox, then you have to make an entry in
/etc/mail/virtusertable, like this:

root[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and then 'cd /etc/mail' and 'make' which will do the trick.

--
Matt Emmerton


Well, not to be left out of the party, here's the way I've done for as long
as I can remember:

snip/ (# are from from the aliases file)
# Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so 
# you would do well in either reading roots mailbox or forwarding
# roots email from here.

root:   sageame # On this server
sageame:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  # Another domain on another server

# In the above example, I first send root to a normal user account (may be
redundant).
# I also put include files which contain outside and inside accounts

# Test include file list
sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest# a test file

/snip

Then run # newaliases -- should work

I suggest you try the above sendtest used as follows below which runs on
the console verbose and you can see what it the mail system is doing and
perhaps see the problem:

# mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null

where include is a list from /etc/aliases
...
sendtest:include:/etc/sendtest

where sendtest (aliases include)
root# On this server
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  # On another server on my network
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # A outside network

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 08:31 PM 1.6.2003 -0600, Jack L. Stone wrote:
At 08:13 PM 1.6.2003 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
[ dah!  Don't top-post! ]
 
  I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even
  have the MTA
  process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com
  port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
  --
  Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
  * All wiyht.  Rho sritched
  mg kegboawd awound?
 
 Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
 localhost.visimation.com gives this:
 Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
 Trying 127.0.0.1
 Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
 2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)

 I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
 thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
 the Standard installation.

Usually to redirect root's email, you edit /etc/mail/aliases to have an
entry that looks like this:

root:matt

and then run 'newalises' for it to take effect.  If you want to redirect
root's email to a non-local mailbox, then you have to make an entry in
/etc/mail/virtusertable, like this:

root[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and then 'cd /etc/mail' and 'make' which will do the trick.

--
Matt Emmerton


Well, not to be left out of the party, here's the way I've done for as long
as I can remember:

snip/ (# are from from the aliases file)
# Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so 
# you would do well in either reading roots mailbox or forwarding
# roots email from here.

root:   sageame# On this server
sageame:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # Another domain on another server

# In the above example, I first send root to a normal user account (may be
redundant).
# I also put include files which contain outside and inside accounts

# Test include file list
sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest   # a test file

/snip

Then run # newaliases -- should work

I suggest you try the above sendtest used as follows below which runs on
the console verbose and you can see what it the mail system is doing and
perhaps see the problem:

# mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null

where include is a list from /etc/aliases =
   ...
   sendtest:include:/etc/sendtest =


ooops! The above path is wrong =  should be:
sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest

...as I have it in the real aliases example further above. Hope this didn't
confuse all the more. But, the sendtest should show some info on the
console as to what it is doing or not doing.

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Brian
it'd be interesting to have the sendmail process hupped and watch maillog as
that occurs.  If telnet to port 25 of localhost works, all I can expect is
that either dest port 25 is blocked going out, or the servers dns is not
able to look up mx records.  BTW you said you had sendmail_enable=YES in
rc.conf.  There are several sendmail lines in /etc/defaults/rc.conf..

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Jack L. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Matthew Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Redirecting root's email


 At 08:13 PM 1.6.2003 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
 [ dah!  Don't top-post! ]
  
   I'm not a big Sendmail expert or anything, but do you even
   have the MTA
   process running? Can you successfully telnet localhost.visimation.com
   port 25? What sendmail related lines do you have in /etc/rc.conf?
   --
   Toomas Aas | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
   http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/
   * All wiyht.  Rho sritched
   mg kegboawd awound?
  
  Yes, I have the Sendmail Process running.  Telnet to port 25 of
  localhost.visimation.com gives this:
  Forcefield# telnet localhost.visimation.com 25
  Trying 127.0.0.1
  Connected to locahost.visimation.com.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  220 forcefield.visimation.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.6/8.12.6; Mon, 6 Jan
  2003 16:50:15 -0800 (PST)
 
  I really wish I could get this working.  It seems like such a simple
  thing, and my installation was pretty much straight-out-of-the-box from
  the Standard installation.
 
 Usually to redirect root's email, you edit /etc/mail/aliases to have an
 entry that looks like this:
 
 root:matt
 
 and then run 'newalises' for it to take effect.  If you want to redirect
 root's email to a non-local mailbox, then you have to make an entry in
 /etc/mail/virtusertable, like this:
 
 root[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and then 'cd /etc/mail' and 'make' which will do the trick.
 
 --
 Matt Emmerton
 

 Well, not to be left out of the party, here's the way I've done for as
long
 as I can remember:

 snip/ (# are from from the aliases file)
 # Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so
 # you would do well in either reading roots mailbox or forwarding
 # roots email from here.

 root:   sageame # On this server
 sageame:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # Another domain on another server

 # In the above example, I first send root to a normal user account (may be
 redundant).
 # I also put include files which contain outside and inside accounts

 # Test include file list
 sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest # a test file

 /snip

 Then run # newaliases -- should work

 I suggest you try the above sendtest used as follows below which runs on
 the console verbose and you can see what it the mail system is doing and
 perhaps see the problem:

 # mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null

 where include is a list from /etc/aliases
 ...
 sendtest :include:/etc/sendtest

 where sendtest (aliases include)
 root # On this server
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # On another server on my network
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # A outside network

 Best regards,
 Jack L. Stone,
 Administrator

 SageOne Net
 http://www.sage-one.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Adam Lofstedt
 Well, not to be left out of the party, here's the way I've 
 done for as 
 long as I can remember:
 
 snip/ (# are from from the aliases file)
 # Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so
 # you would do well in either reading roots mailbox or forwarding
 # roots email from here.
 
 root:   sageame  # On this server
 sageame:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   # Another 
 domain on another server
 
 # In the above example, I first send root to a normal user 
 account (may 
 be redundant). # I also put include files which contain outside and 
 inside accounts
 
 # Test include file list
 sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest # a test file
 
 /snip
 
 Then run # newaliases -- should work
 
 I suggest you try the above sendtest used as follows below 
 which runs 
 on the console verbose and you can see what it the mail 
 system is doing 
 and perhaps see the problem:
 
 # mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null
 
 where include is a list from /etc/aliases =
  ...
  sendtest:include:/etc/sendtest =
 
 
 ooops! The above path is wrong =  should be:
   sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest
 
 ...as I have it in the real aliases example further above. 
 Hope this didn't confuse all the more. But, the sendtest 
 should show some info on the console as to what it is doing 
 or not doing.
 
 Best regards,
 Jack L. Stone,
 Administrator
 
 SageOne Net
 http://www.sage-one.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Thanks Jack.  That didn't work.  This is what I got:
forcefield# mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null
Null message body; hope that's ok
sendtest... Connecting to localhost.visimation.com. via relay...
sendtest... Deferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

I think something else is wrong here.  This is on a dual-homed gateway
running ipf and ipnat.  For testing purposes I made the ipf.rules simply
pass in all and pass out all, and then I am mapping my external address
on external NIC to my internal network.  In ipnat.rules I am redirecting
port 25 of the external interface to port 25 of my internal network's
mailserver.  

This seems like a standard gateway setup.  I'm not sure how/why it would
affect sendmail running on the gateway machine.  I just can't understand
why I can telnet into 127.0.0.1 port 25 and get a response from
sendmail, but then when I try to send a mail out, it can't connect to
the localhost.

Please don't give up on me!  I know this is probably a pretty boring
thread:)

Adam


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 08:53 PM 1.6.2003 -0800, Adam Lofstedt wrote:
 Well, not to be left out of the party, here's the way I've 
 done for as 
 long as I can remember:
 
 snip/ (# are from from the aliases file)
 # Pretty much everything else in this file points to root, so
 # you would do well in either reading roots mailbox or forwarding
 # roots email from here.
 
 root:   sageame # On this server
 sageame:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  # Another 
 domain on another server
 
 # In the above example, I first send root to a normal user 
 account (may 
 be redundant). # I also put include files which contain outside and 
 inside accounts
 
 # Test include file list
 sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest# a test file
 
 /snip
 
 Then run # newaliases -- should work
 
 I suggest you try the above sendtest used as follows below 
 which runs 
 on the console verbose and you can see what it the mail 
 system is doing 
 and perhaps see the problem:
 
 # mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null
 
 where include is a list from /etc/aliases =
 ...
 sendtest:include:/etc/sendtest =
 
 
 ooops! The above path is wrong =  should be:
  sendtest::include:/etc/mail/sendtest
 
 ...as I have it in the real aliases example further above. 
 Hope this didn't confuse all the more. But, the sendtest 
 should show some info on the console as to what it is doing 
 or not doing.
 
 Best regards,
 Jack L. Stone,
 Administrator
 
 SageOne Net
 http://www.sage-one.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Thanks Jack.  That didn't work.  This is what I got:
forcefield# mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null
Null message body; hope that's ok
sendtest... Connecting to localhost.visimation.com. via relay...
sendtest... Deferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

I think something else is wrong here.  This is on a dual-homed gateway
running ipf and ipnat.  For testing purposes I made the ipf.rules simply
pass in all and pass out all, and then I am mapping my external address
on external NIC to my internal network.  In ipnat.rules I am redirecting
port 25 of the external interface to port 25 of my internal network's
mailserver.  

This seems like a standard gateway setup.  I'm not sure how/why it would
affect sendmail running on the gateway machine.  I just can't understand
why I can telnet into 127.0.0.1 port 25 and get a response from
sendmail, but then when I try to send a mail out, it can't connect to
the localhost.

Please don't give up on me!  I know this is probably a pretty boring
thread:)

Adam


If sendmail is configured properly in rc.conf as previously discussed, now
I really suspect the firewall. Have you tried to simply open the firewall
completely (drop all rules) while doing the testing...? At least a
wide-open FW will eliminate that as being the culprit. I don't remember
whether this was already suggested.

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
Adam Lofstedt wrote:
[ ... ]

Thanks Jack.  That didn't work.  This is what I got:
forcefield# mail -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null
Null message body; hope that's ok
sendtest... Connecting to localhost.visimation.com. via relay...
sendtest... Deferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com

I think something else is wrong here.  This is on a dual-homed gateway
running ipf and ipnat.  For testing purposes I made the ipf.rules simply
pass in all and pass out all, and then I am mapping my external address
on external NIC to my internal network.  In ipnat.rules I am redirecting
port 25 of the external interface to port 25 of my internal network's
mailserver.  

That probably means that sendmail can't bind to port 25 on that interface, 
because your NAT rule is already listening on that port, in order to redirect 
connections.  [ However, you may not care if you're only trying to send mail 
outbound from this gateway box. ]

This seems like a standard gateway setup.  I'm not sure how/why it would
affect sendmail running on the gateway machine.  I just can't understand
why I can telnet into 127.0.0.1 port 25 and get a response from
sendmail, but then when I try to send a mail out, it can't connect to
the localhost.


Are you sure that localhost.visimation.com maps to 127.0.0.1?  Anyway, you 
don't want to deliver the mail locally, right-- you want the mail from 
forcefield to be relayed (via an alias if I understood the earlier part of 
the thread) to your internal network's mailserver.

Can you telnet internal_mailserver 25?
Does it work if you turn off NAT and the redirect?
Is there anything interesting in /var/log/maillog?

-Chuck


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Adam Lofstedt
Damn this is a long thread...

  Thanks Jack.  That didn't work.  This is what I got: 
 forcefield# mail 
  -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null Null message body; hope that's ok
  sendtest... Connecting to localhost.visimation.com. via relay...
  sendtest... Deferred: Operation timed out with 
 localhost.visimation.com
 
  I think something else is wrong here.  This is on a 
 dual-homed gateway 
  running ipf and ipnat.  For testing purposes I made the ipf.rules 
  simply pass in all and pass out all, and then I am mapping 
 my external 
  address on external NIC to my internal network.  In 
 ipnat.rules I am 
  redirecting port 25 of the external interface to port 25 of my 
  internal network's mailserver.
 
 That probably means that sendmail can't bind to port 25 on 
 that interface, 
 because your NAT rule is already listening on that port, in 
 order to redirect 
 connections.  [ However, you may not care if you're only 
 trying to send mail 
 outbound from this gateway box. ]

Right, I don't care.  I just want to get root's emails out of there.
Basically I'm trying to send root's emails outbound from the gateway
through the internal interface to my internal mail server.  The gateway
uses my internal name server to resolve names, so nothing should even be
going out the external interface of the box.

 
  This seems like a standard gateway setup.  I'm not sure how/why it 
  would affect sendmail running on the gateway machine.  I just can't 
  understand why I can telnet into 127.0.0.1 port 25 and get 
 a response 
  from sendmail, but then when I try to send a mail out, it can't 
  connect to the localhost.
 
 Are you sure that localhost.visimation.com maps to 
 127.0.0.1?
  
Yes.  I can ping localhost.visimation.com and it comes back just fine as
127.0.0.1.

Anyway, you 
 don't want to deliver the mail locally, right-- you want the 
 mail from 
 forcefield to be relayed (via an alias if I understood the 
 earlier part of 
 the thread) to your internal network's mailserver.
 

Right.  Exactly.

 Can you telnet internal_mailserver 25?

Yes I can telnet to it from the gateway.  Definately my internal mail
server is not the problem, as it is working normally.

 Does it work if you turn off NAT and the redirect?

Nope.  I flushed all the rules, my ipnat.rules in empty and my ipf.rules
is pass in all and pass out all.

 Is there anything interesting in /var/log/maillog?

Nope.  Just the same things.

Jan  4 00:00:00 forcefield newsyslog[7170]: logfile turned over 
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAs006196: to=root,
delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3091680,
relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
timed out with localhost.visimation.com. 
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAr006196: to=root,
delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3098805,
relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
timed out with localhost.visimation.com. 
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03B2Nw3006001: to=root,
ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=21:05:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=3900062, relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
Adam Lofstedt wrote:
[ ... ]

Right, I don't care.  I just want to get root's emails out of there.
Basically I'm trying to send root's emails outbound from the gateway
through the internal interface to my internal mail server.  The gateway
uses my internal name server to resolve names, so nothing should even be
going out the external interface of the box.


OK.


Can you telnet internal_mailserver 25? 

Yes I can telnet to it from the gateway.  Definately my internal mail
server is not the problem, as it is working normally.


Does it work if you turn off NAT and the redirect?


Nope.  I flushed all the rules, my ipnat.rules in empty and my ipf.rules
is pass in all and pass out all.


These two answers suggest that it may be a problem with the local sendmail 
config, then.

Can you try making sendmail setuid-root for a bit (and move 
/etc/mail/submit.cf out of the way, IIRC) to test whether that makes a 
difference?  Or you could cvsup and/or get sendmail-8.12.7 from 
ftp.sendmail.org and use their sh ./Build install-set-user-id.

I'm not suggesting you should run setuid-root on a long-term basis, but it 
would be good to identify or eliminate this as a potential problem.  Of 
course, rebuilding sendmail may be more overhead than it's worth, too.

-Chuck


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-06 Thread Brian
I just fixed a similar prob by allowing udp with src port 53 from a trusted
name server to the server in question.

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Adam Lofstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Chuck Swiger' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: Redirecting root's email


 Damn this is a long thread...

   Thanks Jack.  That didn't work.  This is what I got:
  forcefield# mail
   -v -s test sendtest  /dev/null Null message body; hope that's ok
   sendtest... Connecting to localhost.visimation.com. via relay...
   sendtest... Deferred: Operation timed out with
  localhost.visimation.com
  
   I think something else is wrong here.  This is on a
  dual-homed gateway
   running ipf and ipnat.  For testing purposes I made the ipf.rules
   simply pass in all and pass out all, and then I am mapping
  my external
   address on external NIC to my internal network.  In
  ipnat.rules I am
   redirecting port 25 of the external interface to port 25 of my
   internal network's mailserver.
 
  That probably means that sendmail can't bind to port 25 on
  that interface,
  because your NAT rule is already listening on that port, in
  order to redirect
  connections.  [ However, you may not care if you're only
  trying to send mail
  outbound from this gateway box. ]

 Right, I don't care.  I just want to get root's emails out of there.
 Basically I'm trying to send root's emails outbound from the gateway
 through the internal interface to my internal mail server.  The gateway
 uses my internal name server to resolve names, so nothing should even be
 going out the external interface of the box.

 
   This seems like a standard gateway setup.  I'm not sure how/why it
   would affect sendmail running on the gateway machine.  I just can't
   understand why I can telnet into 127.0.0.1 port 25 and get
  a response
   from sendmail, but then when I try to send a mail out, it can't
   connect to the localhost.
 
  Are you sure that localhost.visimation.com maps to
  127.0.0.1?

 Yes.  I can ping localhost.visimation.com and it comes back just fine as
 127.0.0.1.

 Anyway, you
  don't want to deliver the mail locally, right-- you want the
  mail from
  forcefield to be relayed (via an alias if I understood the
  earlier part of
  the thread) to your internal network's mailserver.
 

 Right.  Exactly.

  Can you telnet internal_mailserver 25?

 Yes I can telnet to it from the gateway.  Definately my internal mail
 server is not the problem, as it is working normally.

  Does it work if you turn off NAT and the redirect?

 Nope.  I flushed all the rules, my ipnat.rules in empty and my ipf.rules
 is pass in all and pass out all.

  Is there anything interesting in /var/log/maillog?

 Nope.  Just the same things.

 Jan  4 00:00:00 forcefield newsyslog[7170]: logfile turned over
 Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAs006196: to=root,
 delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3091680,
 relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
 timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
 Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAr006196: to=root,
 delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3098805,
 relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
 timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
 Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03B2Nw3006001: to=root,
 ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=21:05:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
 pri=3900062, relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
 Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-05 Thread Adam Lofstedt
 hi,
 did you try digging the nameserver
 
 dig @nameserver localhost.visimation.com
 
 Cheers
 
Here is the result:

;  DiG 8.3  @nameserver localhost.visimation.com
; Bad server: nameserver -- using default server and timer opts
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  localhost.visimation.com, type = A, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
localhost.visimation.com.  1H IN A  127.0.0.1

;; Total query time: 1 msec
;; FROM: forcefield.visimation.com to SERVER: default -- 10.0.0.X
;; WHEN: Sun Jan  5 13:15:55 2003
;; MSG SIZE  sent: 42  rcvd: 58

There of course is no entry in the internal network name server's zone
files for localhost.visimation.com.  In a simple installation of FBSD,
shouldn't sendmail use itself as the relay?  And then just use the
nameserver in resolv.conf to resolve the domain name in the email
address?  Why is it trying to contact localhost.visimation.com (and not
its host name forcefield.visimation.com?), and why is it not finding it?
Shouldn't it use the hosts file first for name resolution?  In my
/etc/hosts I have the following entries:

127.0.0.1   localhost.visimation.com localhost
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx forcefield.visimation.com forcefield
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx forcefield.visimation.com.

Is it because the first entry doesn't have a trailing period after
localhost.visimation.com?  

Thanks for your help,
Adam


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RE: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-04 Thread Adam Lofstedt
  MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
 
 For some reason sendmail tries to contact localhost.visimation.com
 
 What is the result of command
 
 host visimation.com 
 
 on your box?

# host visimation.com
visimation.com has address 10.0.0.x
visimation.com mail is handled (pri=10) by jupiter.visimation.com

This is as it should be...

 Can you check /var/log/maillog file for error messages?

Here is a snippet (I'm sure the text wrapping will suck).  The logs are
full of these:

Jan  4 00:00:00 forcefield newsyslog[7170]: logfile turned over
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAs006196: to=root,
delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3091680,
relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03F7WAr006196: to=root,
delay=17:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3098805,
relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Operation
timed out with localhost.visimation.com.
Jan  4 00:07:33 forcefield sm-msp-queue[7180]: h03B2Nw3006001: to=root,
ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=21:05:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=3900062, relay=localhost.visimation.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

Thanks again.
Adam


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Re: Redirecting root's email

2003-01-03 Thread Konstantin Borovik
 MDeferred: Operation timed out with localhost.visimation.com.

For some reason sendmail tries to contact localhost.visimation.com

What is the result of command

host visimation.com 

on your box?

Can you check /var/log/maillog file for error messages?

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