RE: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Powell
Darryl Hoar wrote:

[snip]
>> 
>> After looking at the referenced wiki and my system, I believe I have a
>> supermicro
>> SuperServer 6012L-6.  It has (2) Xeon 512K L2 "Prestonia" processors. 
>> They are
>> Installed in a P4DLR+ motherboard which has 603 pin sockets.
 
> From this, I believe I should install the i386 version of Freebsd.  Do I
> have to  do anything to enable multi-processors in Freebsd ?

Yes - the Prestonia is from before EMT64.
 
Some while back FreeBSD went to having SMP enabled as default in the GENERIC 
kernel. I haven't looked at the 6.x series as I went to 7.0-Release when it 
arrived. I did take a quick look at the GENERIC conf file on a 7.1-Release 
box and it has SMP in there as default.

On older hardware you might try both/either 6.x and/or 7.1 releases and try 
and see if one works better. I'd try 7.1 first as it will have a better long 
term upgrade path, and fall back to giving 6.x a go if 7.1 gives trouble.

Most likely what you'll see is whether or not the disk controllers are 
properly supported. SCSI and/or IDE can give problems with boot ordering 
sometimes. If it doesn't hickup on the disk controller(s) everything else 
will most likely be fine. As old as it is there is a pretty fair chance it 
will be OK. 

-Mike




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Re: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Darryl Hoar wrote:



From this, I believe I should install the i386 version of Freebsd.  Do I

have to do anything to enable multi-processors in Freebsd ?


AFAIK you need "apic" and "smp" options in your kernel config; of
course, the good news is that 7.0 and up have this enabled by default.

Kevin Kinsey
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RE: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Darryl Hoar
To: Michael Powell
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Which install ?

On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:15:25PM -0400, Michael Powell wrote:
> Erik Trulsson wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >> I just purchased an older rack mounted supermicro server.  It is
running
> >> CentOS, but I want to install Freebsd on it.
> >> The server has (2) Xeon processors.  Which download should I use ?
i386
> >> ???
> >> 
> > 
> > If it is an older server then i386 is probably the right version to use.
> > The recent processors from Intel that use the 'Xeon' name also support
> > amd64, but older ones did not.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> If memory serves, the first Xeon to be 64 bit was the Nocona. Xeons prior
to 
> that were 32 bit and came in OLGA 603 sockets. In early 2001 they were 1.4

> to 1.7GHz units, and later that year the speeds ramped up.

> There have been many 'Xeon' processors before that.  The first ones were
the
> Pentium II Xeon for Slot 2 and ran at a most impressive 400 MHz.  There
have
> been many variants after that using Slot 2, Socket 603, Socket 604,
> Socket 775, Socket 771, and probably some more socket type which I have
> missed.  The Slot 2 and Socket 603 models do not have 64-bit support. Some
> of the Socket 604 models have 64-bit support, while I believe all the
Socket
> 775 and Socket 771 models have 64-bit support.

> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors for
what
> looks like a fairly complete list of them all, which should illustrate
> fairly well why it is pretty much meaningless to just say that you have
> a 'Xeon' processor.
> Erik Trulsson
> ertr1...@student.uu.se

After looking at the referenced wiki and my system, I believe I have a
supermicro
SuperServer 6012L-6.  It has (2) Xeon 512K L2 "Prestonia" processors.  They
are
Installed in a P4DLR+ motherboard which has 603 pin sockets.

>From this, I believe I should install the i386 version of Freebsd.  Do I
have to
do anything to enable multi-processors in Freebsd ?


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Re: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:15:25PM -0400, Michael Powell wrote:
> Erik Trulsson wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >> I just purchased an older rack mounted supermicro server.  It is running
> >> CentOS, but I want to install Freebsd on it.
> >> The server has (2) Xeon processors.  Which download should I use ?  i386
> >> ???
> >> 
> > 
> > If it is an older server then i386 is probably the right version to use.
> > The recent processors from Intel that use the 'Xeon' name also support
> > amd64, but older ones did not.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> If memory serves, the first Xeon to be 64 bit was the Nocona. Xeons prior to 
> that were 32 bit and came in OLGA 603 sockets. In early 2001 they were 1.4 
> to 1.7GHz units, and later that year the speeds ramped up.

There have been many 'Xeon' processors before that.  The first ones were the
Pentium II Xeon for Slot 2 and ran at a most impressive 400 MHz.  There have
been many variants after that using Slot 2, Socket 603, Socket 604,
Socket 775, Socket 771, and probably some more socket type which I have
missed.  The Slot 2 and Socket 603 models do not have 64-bit support. Some
of the Socket 604 models have 64-bit support, while I believe all the Socket
775 and Socket 771 models have 64-bit support.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors for what
looks like a fairly complete list of them all, which should illustrate
fairly well why it is pretty much meaningless to just say that you have
a 'Xeon' processor.



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Re: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Powell
Erik Trulsson wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> I just purchased an older rack mounted supermicro server.  It is running
>> CentOS, but I want to install Freebsd on it.
>> The server has (2) Xeon processors.  Which download should I use ?  i386
>> ???
>> 
> 
> If it is an older server then i386 is probably the right version to use.
> The recent processors from Intel that use the 'Xeon' name also support
> amd64, but older ones did not.
> 
> 
> 
> 

If memory serves, the first Xeon to be 64 bit was the Nocona. Xeons prior to 
that were 32 bit and came in OLGA 603 sockets. In early 2001 they were 1.4 
to 1.7GHz units, and later that year the speeds ramped up.

At any rate, dmesg works the same way in CentOS so you can use it to easily 
make a more accurate determination. It will be near the top so do dmesg |
more, or dmesg | less so it will page. It will be among some of the earliest 
output.

-Mike



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Re: Which install ?

2009-03-09 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 11:25:06AM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> Greetings,
> I just purchased an older rack mounted supermicro server.  It is running
> CentOS, but I want to install Freebsd on it.
> The server has (2) Xeon processors.  Which download should I use ?  i386 ???
> 

If it is an older server then i386 is probably the right version to use.
The recent processors from Intel that use the 'Xeon' name also support
amd64, but older ones did not.




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ertr1...@student.uu.se
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