Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-31 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> > > > > I'm about to install FreeBSD on a new computer, and was
> > > > > looking over the release notes for XFree86 in preparation and
> > > > > discovered that the Current release is 4.4. Though I don't
> > > > > think I actively need any of the features of version 4.4, I do
> > > > > wonder why it hasn't made it into the Ports system yet.  It's
> > > > > been out for a month, and there are FreeBSD binaries on the
> > > > > XFree86 site.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There doesn't seem to have been much discussion of it here. Are
> > > > > there any specific problems with 4.4, or is it just a big job
> > > > > to port it and deal with dependencies?
> > > > 
> > > > The latter.
> > > 
> > > Hmm. This is distressing, as I've discovered since posting my
> > > original message not long ago that my video card (ATI Mobility
> > > FireGL T2) is not supported in 4.3, but is supported in 4.4.
> > > 
> > > How grim a job is it going to be to handle the X setup manually,
> > > and how badly will I get screwed every time I try to install a
> > > new X-based app?
> > 
> > Why are you concerned about 4.3 or 4.4?
> > The most recent release in the 4.xxx track is 4.9.   Download it
> > and install (buy the CD set).The most recent release in the 5.xxx
> > track for the more adventurous is 5.2.1 and 5.3 is coming "soon".   
> 
> The discussion was about the latest release of XFree86, which is indeed
> 4.4 while XFree86 4.3 is what is included in the FreeBSD ports
> collection.  The FreeBSD version numbers that you mention are
> irrelevant to this discussion.

Oops.  You are right.   Sorry.   Too early in the morning I guess.

jerry

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Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-31 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:46:09AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:03:19PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:59:42PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm about to install FreeBSD on a new computer, and was
> > > > looking over the release notes for XFree86 in preparation and
> > > > discovered that the Current release is 4.4. Though I don't
> > > > think I actively need any of the features of version 4.4, I do
> > > > wonder why it hasn't made it into the Ports system yet.  It's
> > > > been out for a month, and there are FreeBSD binaries on the
> > > > XFree86 site.
> > > > 
> > > > There doesn't seem to have been much discussion of it here. Are
> > > > there any specific problems with 4.4, or is it just a big job
> > > > to port it and deal with dependencies?
> > > 
> > > The latter.
> > 
> > Hmm. This is distressing, as I've discovered since posting my
> > original message not long ago that my video card (ATI Mobility
> > FireGL T2) is not supported in 4.3, but is supported in 4.4.
> > 
> > How grim a job is it going to be to handle the X setup manually,
> > and how badly will I get screwed every time I try to install a
> > new X-based app?
> 
> Why are you concerned about 4.3 or 4.4?
> The most recent release in the 4.xxx track is 4.9.   Download it
> and install (buy the CD set).The most recent release in the 5.xxx
> track for the more adventurous is 5.2.1 and 5.3 is coming "soon".   

The discussion was about the latest release of XFree86, which is indeed
4.4 while XFree86 4.3 is what is included in the FreeBSD ports
collection.  The FreeBSD version numbers that you mention are
irrelevant to this discussion.


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RE: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-31 Thread Toni Heinonen
> Why are you concerned about 4.3 or 4.4?

I think they were discussing XFree86, not FreeBSD.
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Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-31 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:03:19PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:59:42PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm about to install FreeBSD on a new computer, and was
> > > looking over the release notes for XFree86 in preparation and
> > > discovered that the Current release is 4.4. Though I don't
> > > think I actively need any of the features of version 4.4, I do
> > > wonder why it hasn't made it into the Ports system yet.  It's
> > > been out for a month, and there are FreeBSD binaries on the
> > > XFree86 site.
> > > 
> > > There doesn't seem to have been much discussion of it here. Are
> > > there any specific problems with 4.4, or is it just a big job
> > > to port it and deal with dependencies?
> > 
> > The latter.
> 
> Hmm. This is distressing, as I've discovered since posting my
> original message not long ago that my video card (ATI Mobility
> FireGL T2) is not supported in 4.3, but is supported in 4.4.
> 
> How grim a job is it going to be to handle the X setup manually,
> and how badly will I get screwed every time I try to install a
> new X-based app?

Why are you concerned about 4.3 or 4.4?
The most recent release in the 4.xxx track is 4.9.   Download it
and install (buy the CD set).The most recent release in the 5.xxx
track for the more adventurous is 5.2.1 and 5.3 is coming "soon".   

Unless you have some really odd application that can't be updated
to run on a more recent version, don't even consider anything older
than 4.9 or 5.2.1 (those are effectively different tracks - 4.xxx is
the stable track right now and 5.xxx is the development [read experimental]
track right now.   As 5.xxx finishes cleaning up, it will become the
stable track - soon, but not yet).

jerry
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jesse Sheidlower
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Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-31 Thread Jonathan Fosburgh
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On Tuesday 30 March 2004 20:22, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:

> Hmm. This is distressing, as I've discovered since posting my
> original message not long ago that my video card (ATI Mobility
> FireGL T2) is not supported in 4.3, but is supported in 4.4.

Try installing the latest version of the XFree86 server snapshot, which is 
located in the ports.  I am using it (well, not the most current yet, but a 
slightly older version, I haven't done the upgrade to the most current) with 
much success with my ATI Radeon 9200.

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Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-30 Thread Jesse Sheidlower
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 06:03:19PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:59:42PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> > 
> > I'm about to install FreeBSD on a new computer, and was
> > looking over the release notes for XFree86 in preparation and
> > discovered that the Current release is 4.4. Though I don't
> > think I actively need any of the features of version 4.4, I do
> > wonder why it hasn't made it into the Ports system yet.  It's
> > been out for a month, and there are FreeBSD binaries on the
> > XFree86 site.
> > 
> > There doesn't seem to have been much discussion of it here. Are
> > there any specific problems with 4.4, or is it just a big job
> > to port it and deal with dependencies?
> 
> The latter.

Hmm. This is distressing, as I've discovered since posting my
original message not long ago that my video card (ATI Mobility
FireGL T2) is not supported in 4.3, but is supported in 4.4.

How grim a job is it going to be to handle the X setup manually,
and how badly will I get screwed every time I try to install a
new X-based app?

Thanks.

Jesse Sheidlower
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Re: XFree86 4.4 in FreeBSD?

2004-03-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:59:42PM -0500, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
> 
> I'm about to install FreeBSD on a new computer, and was
> looking over the release notes for XFree86 in preparation and
> discovered that the Current release is 4.4. Though I don't
> think I actively need any of the features of version 4.4, I do
> wonder why it hasn't made it into the Ports system yet.  It's
> been out for a month, and there are FreeBSD binaries on the
> XFree86 site.
> 
> There doesn't seem to have been much discussion of it here. Are
> there any specific problems with 4.4, or is it just a big job
> to port it and deal with dependencies?

The latter.

Kris


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