Re: advertising clause in license

2004-10-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 01:35:51PM -0700, Nell Weems wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 after typing:
 fgrep -r All advertising materials /usr/src/sys
 it seems like there are still many files which 
 contain the advertising clause. has there been any 
 attempts to contact the copyright authors of these 
 files and see if it can be removed?
 
 not too much of a deal, i was just wondering.

No concerted efforts that I know of, but note that most of those
copyright holders are the UCB regents, so the copyright notice is
overridden by the amendment in /COPYRIGHT.  There is some ongoing work
to regularize licenses in the source tree though (mostly worked on by
imp@).

Kris


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RE: advertising clause in license

2004-10-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Nell,

  Just a request, please do not use the term advertising clause

This is a term that was created by the Linux bigots, specifically
people like RMS who is so bigoted he can't see beyond the tip
of his nose.  It has never been advertising before to give
credit to the authors of a software package until the pro-GPL-anti-BSD
crowd came along.  It has also never been a burden of any kind
to include credit to UCB until people started to think it was
because the GPL crowd told them.  And many companies used BSD
code without giving credit, and nobody cared.  (for example,
Microsoft who used plenty of BSD code including BSD header files
that still had the BSD copyrights in them)

  I think it is either extremely mean-spirited to make a big
deal over this or it is a subtle BSD-bash to do so.  Nobody in
the BSD community ever coined the term advertising-clause this
was forced on us from without, and there is no reason to use
it.

Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Subject: advertising clause in license
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 after typing:
 fgrep -r All advertising materials /usr/src/sys
 it seems like there are still many files which 
 contain the advertising clause. has there been any 
 attempts to contact the copyright authors of these 
 files and see if it can be removed?
 
 not too much of a deal, i was just wondering.
 
 Nell
 
 
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