RE: issues with email migration

2009-11-02 Thread David Patton
Yes sir, I added them to the rc.conf, changed the links to point where I
wanted them and rebooted, same issues.

I cant waste anymore time with what I wanted to do. I will leave /mail on
the nfs share and just build a new server. I have 2 days and hopefully I
will keep my job.

Wish me luck...



-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tim Judd
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:10 AM
To: David Patton
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: issues with email migration

On 11/2/09, David Patton  wrote:
> This morning, I tried adding this to rc.conf and moved my link for /www
from
> local to the nfs .
>
> rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
> rpc_statd_enable="YES"

Adding them alone just tells the system at startup to start
these.


>
> and I experienced the same issues I had before. It would seem that postfix
> and other assorted mail programs have no issue with accessing /mail on an
> nfs share but everything residing in /www don't seem to like it at all.
>

Did you start statd and lockd by hand before trying the /www again?



> I have no choice but to leave this as it is and set up a similar
arrangement
> on my new server.
>
> Thank you to everyone who responded.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Judd [mailto:taj...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: da...@farmington.k12.mo.us
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: issues with email migration
>
> On 10/31/09, da...@farmington.k12.mo.us 
wrote:
>> only one issue with that. The server in question is an emc clereon(sorry
>> not at work to look at the specifics) and at this point the only access I
>> have to it is a web interface and am unable to access a command line.
>>
>> Also a stupid question my plan is to set up another server to access the
>> nfs share to provide better email service.
>>
>> would this impact it in any way?
>
>
> 
>
> Not if file locking and the daemons take care of everything like they
> should.  Remember, file locking is mandatory for some things,
> especially mbox files, password files, or anything else that requires
> exclusive access to a file.
>
> If two systems try to access the same locked file, the 2nd will be
> told it won't be able to get an exclusive lock, because the 1st
> already has it locked.
>
> You're on the right track.  Keep it going.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: issues with email migration

2009-11-02 Thread Tim Judd
On 11/2/09, David Patton  wrote:
> This morning, I tried adding this to rc.conf and moved my link for /www from
> local to the nfs .
>
> rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
> rpc_statd_enable="YES"

Adding them alone just tells the system at startup to start these.


>
> and I experienced the same issues I had before. It would seem that postfix
> and other assorted mail programs have no issue with accessing /mail on an
> nfs share but everything residing in /www don't seem to like it at all.
>

Did you start statd and lockd by hand before trying the /www again?



> I have no choice but to leave this as it is and set up a similar arrangement
> on my new server.
>
> Thank you to everyone who responded.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Judd [mailto:taj...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:51 AM
> To: da...@farmington.k12.mo.us
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: issues with email migration
>
> On 10/31/09, da...@farmington.k12.mo.us  wrote:
>> only one issue with that. The server in question is an emc clereon(sorry
>> not at work to look at the specifics) and at this point the only access I
>> have to it is a web interface and am unable to access a command line.
>>
>> Also a stupid question my plan is to set up another server to access the
>> nfs share to provide better email service.
>>
>> would this impact it in any way?
>
>
> 
>
> Not if file locking and the daemons take care of everything like they
> should.  Remember, file locking is mandatory for some things,
> especially mbox files, password files, or anything else that requires
> exclusive access to a file.
>
> If two systems try to access the same locked file, the 2nd will be
> told it won't be able to get an exclusive lock, because the 1st
> already has it locked.
>
> You're on the right track.  Keep it going.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: issues with email migration

2009-11-02 Thread David Patton
This morning, I tried adding this to rc.conf and moved my link for /www from
local to the nfs .

rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
rpc_statd_enable="YES"

and I experienced the same issues I had before. It would seem that postfix
and other assorted mail programs have no issue with accessing /mail on an
nfs share but everything residing in /www don't seem to like it at all.

I have no choice but to leave this as it is and set up a similar arrangement
on my new server.

Thank you to everyone who responded.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Judd [mailto:taj...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:51 AM
To: da...@farmington.k12.mo.us
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: issues with email migration

On 10/31/09, da...@farmington.k12.mo.us  wrote:
> only one issue with that. The server in question is an emc clereon(sorry
> not at work to look at the specifics) and at this point the only access I
> have to it is a web interface and am unable to access a command line.
>
> Also a stupid question my plan is to set up another server to access the
> nfs share to provide better email service.
>
> would this impact it in any way?




Not if file locking and the daemons take care of everything like they
should.  Remember, file locking is mandatory for some things,
especially mbox files, password files, or anything else that requires
exclusive access to a file.

If two systems try to access the same locked file, the 2nd will be
told it won't be able to get an exclusive lock, because the 1st
already has it locked.

You're on the right track.  Keep it going.





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Re: issues with email migration

2009-10-31 Thread Tim Judd
On 10/31/09, da...@farmington.k12.mo.us  wrote:
> only one issue with that. The server in question is an emc clereon(sorry
> not at work to look at the specifics) and at this point the only access I
> have to it is a web interface and am unable to access a command line.
>
> Also a stupid question my plan is to set up another server to access the
> nfs share to provide better email service.
>
> would this impact it in any way?




Not if file locking and the daemons take care of everything like they
should.  Remember, file locking is mandatory for some things,
especially mbox files, password files, or anything else that requires
exclusive access to a file.

If two systems try to access the same locked file, the 2nd will be
told it won't be able to get an exclusive lock, because the 1st
already has it locked.

You're on the right track.  Keep it going.
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Re: issues with email migration

2009-10-31 Thread david
only one issue with that. The server in question is an emc clereon(sorry
not at work to look at the specifics) and at this point the only access I
have to it is a web interface and am unable to access a command line.

Also a stupid question my plan is to set up another server to access the
nfs share to provide better email service.

would this impact it in any way?

thank you again


> On 10/30/09, usleepl...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM, David Patton
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This morning I moved the contents from the server over to an NFS share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a freebsd 6.2 server running postfix, courier-imap and
>>> squirrelmail.
>>> I used rsync to move the data for /www and /mail over to the nfs share.
>>> After I made the changed to fstab and rebooted, every thing came up and
>>> email seemed to be faster but in fact it wasn't. Once I realized that
>>> there
>>> was an issue, I changed the link back for the /www directory to the
>>> original
>>> location and left the link for /mail pointing to the nfs share. I found
>>> from
>>> a search to try newaliaies and the restart postfix but that didn't
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maillog:
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:11:38 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1337]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning: process
>>> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 1337 exit status 1
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning:
>>> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup - throttling
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Message:
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:00:27 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1177]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:01:28 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1184]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:02:29 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1192]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:03:30 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1218]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:04:31 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1235]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:05:32 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1256]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:06:33 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1270]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:07:34 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1296]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>> Oct 30 06:08:35 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1307]: fatal: shared-lock database
>>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>>
>>
>> although i am certainly not an expert regarding email issues nor NFS,
>> but
>> could it be that the NFS server needs to support "lockd" and "statd" ?
>>
>> i have this in my /etc/rc.conf:
>>
>> rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
>> rpc_statd_enable="YES"
>
>
> On both the server and client.
>
> File locking is not supported without these two daemons running.  I
> run diskless clients and I need to support file locking, for when you
> edit the passwd file with vipw and the like.
>
>
> Please enable the above on both the server and client, start them,
> then try again.
>
>
>
>


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Re: issues with email migration

2009-10-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 10/30/09, usleepl...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM, David Patton
> wrote:
>
>> This morning I moved the contents from the server over to an NFS share.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a freebsd 6.2 server running postfix, courier-imap and
>> squirrelmail.
>> I used rsync to move the data for /www and /mail over to the nfs share.
>> After I made the changed to fstab and rebooted, every thing came up and
>> email seemed to be faster but in fact it wasn't. Once I realized that
>> there
>> was an issue, I changed the link back for the /www directory to the
>> original
>> location and left the link for /mail pointing to the nfs share. I found
>> from
>> a search to try newaliaies and the restart postfix but that didn't work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Maillog:
>>
>> Oct 30 06:11:38 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1337]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning: process
>> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 1337 exit status 1
>>
>> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning:
>> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup - throttling
>>
>>
>>
>> Message:
>>
>> Oct 30 06:00:27 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1177]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:01:28 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1184]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:02:29 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1192]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:03:30 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1218]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:04:31 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1235]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:05:32 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1256]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:06:33 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1270]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:07:34 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1296]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>> Oct 30 06:08:35 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1307]: fatal: shared-lock database
>> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>>
>
> although i am certainly not an expert regarding email issues nor NFS, but
> could it be that the NFS server needs to support "lockd" and "statd" ?
>
> i have this in my /etc/rc.conf:
>
> rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
> rpc_statd_enable="YES"


On both the server and client.

File locking is not supported without these two daemons running.  I
run diskless clients and I need to support file locking, for when you
edit the passwd file with vipw and the like.


Please enable the above on both the server and client, start them,
then try again.
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Re: issues with email migration

2009-10-30 Thread usleepless
Hi David,

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 1:59 PM, David Patton wrote:

> This morning I moved the contents from the server over to an NFS share.
>
>
>
> This is a freebsd 6.2 server running postfix, courier-imap and
> squirrelmail.
> I used rsync to move the data for /www and /mail over to the nfs share.
> After I made the changed to fstab and rebooted, every thing came up and
> email seemed to be faster but in fact it wasn't. Once I realized that there
> was an issue, I changed the link back for the /www directory to the
> original
> location and left the link for /mail pointing to the nfs share. I found
> from
> a search to try newaliaies and the restart postfix but that didn't work.
>
>
>
> Maillog:
>
> Oct 30 06:11:38 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1337]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning: process
> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 1337 exit status 1
>
> Oct 30 06:11:39 bonnie postfix/master[889]: warning:
> /usr/local/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup - throttling
>
>
>
> Message:
>
> Oct 30 06:00:27 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1177]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:01:28 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1184]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:02:29 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1192]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:03:30 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1218]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:04:31 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1235]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:05:32 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1256]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:06:33 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1270]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:07:34 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1296]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>
> Oct 30 06:08:35 bonnie postfix/smtpd[1307]: fatal: shared-lock database
> /www/mailman/data/aliases.db for open: Operation not supported
>

although i am certainly not an expert regarding email issues nor NFS, but
could it be that the NFS server needs to support "lockd" and "statd" ?

i have this in my /etc/rc.conf:

rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
rpc_statd_enable="YES"

kind regards,

usleep
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