Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 11:13:45AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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 Gary Kline wrote:
 
 Then I checked my /etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org to see id anything there 
 could conceivably be hanging port 25.  Zip.  (I still updated the
 date and re-exed. I checked with ps and grep to find something new:
 
 The best way to check for any processes listening on port 25 is:
 
 % sockstat | grep :25 
 root sendmail   1193  3  tcp4   81.187.76.162:25  *:*
 root sendmail   1193  5  tcp4   127.0.0.1:25  *:*
 root sendmail   1193  6  tcp6   ::1:25*:*
 root sendmail   1193  7  tcp6   2001:8b0:151:1:240:5ff:fea5:8db7:25*:*
 

matthew, i did sockstat|gr 3, 4 da aago; couldn't make sense-of.  here's what i 
get for sendmail and the above.   i can't make sense ofthis::

p1 23:52 sage [5001] pss~
1380  ??  Is 0:00.20 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for 
/var/spool/client
1382  ??  Ss 0:16.25 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
14646  ??  I  0:00.02 sendmail: server 131.sub-75-212-161.myvzw.com [75.212
p1 23:53 sage [5002] sockstat | grep :25~
root sendmail   14646 1  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
root sendmail   14646 4  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
root sendmail   14646 7  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
root sendmail   1382  4  tcp4   *:25  *:*


you'll prob'ly be up in a few hours, but it's time for me to cop a few z's 
8 tz's west of you. thus, t'mmrw.

gary



 ~
  624  ??  Ss 0:01.16 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l 
  /var/named/var/r
  p0 0:27 sage [5005]
  
 In theory I know pretty much what bind9does, c; but why this
 change?  (Part of my gnome (2.20) is missing so I cannot max
 enlarge the konsole; ps -alx does not wrap so I cant see the 
 entire string.)  I can pimg ns1.thought.org--obviously.  But if you
 see anything here,  Matthew, would you please let me know?
 
 To get ps output without truncation, simply add 'ww' to the flags --
 one 'w' gives you a 132 column output (shades of those old fan-fold line
 printer TTYs there) and two (or more) 'w's gives you unlimited width:
 
 # ps -alx | grep /usr/sbin/s
 0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 select Ss??0:07.28 
 /usr/sbin/s
 0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 
 /usr/sbin/s
 # ps -alxww | grep /usr/sbin/s
 0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 -  Rs??0:07.29 
 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -a 
 81.187.76.161/32:4096 -l /var/named/var/run/log
 0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 
 /usr/sbin/sshd
  1001 16014  1376   0  44  0   380   260 -  R+p00:00.00 grep 
 /usr/sbin/s
 
 As for the presence of '-l /var/named/var/run/log' -- that's added
 to the syslogd flags automatically by the /etc/rc.d/syslogd startup
 script[*] if you're running named chrooted (which is the default). This
 means that syslogd can log the items outside the chroot that are generated
 by named within it.  You should see output from named in /var/log/all.log
 - -- precisely what you see depends entirely on the logging configuration
 in named.conf.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 
 [*] The reason I have it twice is that a long time ago I'd also added
 it to syslogd_flags manually, something I shall correct imminently.
 
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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 12:02:04AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 11:13:45AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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  Gary Kline wrote:
  
Then I checked my /etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org to see id anything there 
could conceivably be hanging port 25.  Zip.  (I still updated the
date and re-exed. I checked with ps and grep to find something new:
  
  The best way to check for any processes listening on port 25 is:
  
  % sockstat | grep :25 
  root sendmail   1193  3  tcp4   81.187.76.162:25  *:*
  root sendmail   1193  5  tcp4   127.0.0.1:25  *:*
  root sendmail   1193  6  tcp6   ::1:25*:*
  root sendmail   1193  7  tcp6   2001:8b0:151:1:240:5ff:fea5:8db7:25*:*
  
 
 matthew, i did sockstat|gr 3, 4 da aago; couldn't make sense-of.  here's what 
 i get for sendmail and the above.   i can't make sense ofthis::
 
 p1 23:52 sage [5001] pss
 ~
 1380  ??  Is 0:00.20 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for 
 /var/spool/client
 1382  ??  Ss 0:16.25 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
 14646  ??  I  0:00.02 sendmail: server 131.sub-75-212-161.myvzw.com 
 [75.212
 p1 23:53 sage [5002] sockstat | grep :25
 ~
 root sendmail   14646 1  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
 root sendmail   14646 4  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
 root sendmail   14646 7  tcp4   216.231.43.140:25 75.212.161.131:1416
 root sendmail   1382  4  tcp4   *:25  *:*
 
 
 you'll prob'ly be up in a few hours, but it's time for me to cop a few z's 
 8 tz's west of you. thus, t'mmrw.
 
 gary
 
 
 
  ~
   624  ??  Ss 0:01.16 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l 
   /var/named/var/r
   p0 0:27 sage [5005]
   
In theory I know pretty much what bind9does, c; but why this
change?  (Part of my gnome (2.20) is missing so I cannot max
enlarge the konsole; ps -alx does not wrap so I cant see the 
entire string.)  I can pimg ns1.thought.org--obviously.  But if you
see anything here,  Matthew, would you please let me know?
  
  To get ps output without truncation, simply add 'ww' to the flags --
  one 'w' gives you a 132 column output (shades of those old fan-fold line
  printer TTYs there) and two (or more) 'w's gives you unlimited width:
  
  # ps -alx | grep /usr/sbin/s
  0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 select Ss??0:07.28 
  /usr/sbin/s
  0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 
  /usr/sbin/s
  # ps -alxww | grep /usr/sbin/s
  0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 -  Rs??0:07.29 
  /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -a 
  81.187.76.161/32:4096 -l /var/named/var/run/log
  0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 
  /usr/sbin/sshd
   1001 16014  1376   0  44  0   380   260 -  R+p00:00.00 grep 
  /usr/sbin/s
  
  As for the presence of '-l /var/named/var/run/log' -- that's added
  to the syslogd flags automatically by the /etc/rc.d/syslogd startup
  script[*] if you're running named chrooted (which is the default). This
  means that syslogd can log the items outside the chroot that are generated
  by named within it.  You should see output from named in /var/log/all.log
  - -- precisely what you see depends entirely on the logging configuration
  in named.conf.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Matthew
  
  [*] The reason I have it twice is that a long time ago I'd also added
  it to syslogd_flags manually, something I shall correct imminently.
  


I have a script here that sends test mail to various servers on 
thought.org.  I just caught this returned mail from qmail here.  

From this, it loooks as though though.org has disappeared entirely::


[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host ns1.thought.org[216.231.43.140] said: 553 5.1.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Unrecognized host name magnesium.net. (in reply to
MAIL FROM command)

Or is this thought.org that is not seeing magnesium.net?!  Either
way, and whatever else is going on, could my /etc/namedb/*/*
files be involved in this mess?  bind9 is one thing I simply
do not touch. Or if/when (abs) necessary, I treat this stuff
like nitroglycerine:)

gary



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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Kline

Hi gang,

first a public, up-front *thanks* to Bill Swingle and 
everyone else here at magnesium.net. If not for this site
AND my networking (at least)  working, I would be severely
SOL and sans oar.  At least this acct lets me tell a few 
people that i'm still hrer; havent given up  

So: again: i'm exceptionally grateful.   . [volumes left 
unsaid.]


On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:49:54AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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 Gary Kline wrote:
 
  Anybody know how I messed up? ---This is no excuse, but because 
  of the recent build problems I did wholesale ``portupgrades -af''
  (**sigh**)
  
  Why cannot creat the queue files??
 
 At a guess, either the queue directories for either or both the MSP
 and MTA sendmail instances have the wrong permissions or one or other
 of MSP, MTA sendmail instances is running with the wrong user credentials.
 You shouldn't get that by doing portupgrade -- certainly I've done a few
 'portupgrade -af' jobs as part of 6.x - 7.0 upgrading and not seen
 anything similar.
 
 Anyhow, you can check that files and directories have the correct
 ownership etc. by:
 
# mtree -p / -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
# mtree -p /var -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist
 
 You can fix any problems by:
 
# mtree -p / -U /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
# mtree -p /var -U /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist

I found out on my own that my clientqueue was 755. my doing.
it was set (not by me to something bizarre like 740.  i thought 
i had opened it up to 777 as a test.  i fixed that by hand.
no diff.

long-story-short, i ran into worse problems of Connection refused
for tao==10.0.0.250, then after a bollixed mergemaster, 
Connection refused with tao only be recognized as 127.0.0.1.
I knew that / I had blown away my working /etc/hosts file.  I check,
yup, all my 10.* hosts were gone.  After I added back my private 
network, sendmail went back to the better failure, seeing Tao
as 10.250, oldtao|tao2 at 100.247, etc.

Then I checked my /etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org to see id anything there 
could conceivably be hanging port 25.  Zip.  (I still updated the
date and re-exed. I checked with ps and grep to find something new:

   ~
624  ??  Ss 0:01.16 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/r
p0 0:27 sage [5005]

In theory I know pretty much what bind9does, c; but why this
change?  (Part of my gnome (2.20) is missing so I cannot max
enlarge the konsole; ps -alx does not wrap so I cant see the 
entire string.)  I can pimg ns1.thought.org--obviously.  But if you
see anything here,  Matthew, would you please let me know?
  

 
 The other thing to check is that you are running sendmail using the
 correct users and groups.  You should see something like this:
 
# ps -o ruser,rgroup,svuid,svgid,command -p `head -1 
 /var/run/sendmail.pid` -p `head -1 /var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid`
RUSER RGROUP SVUID SVGID COMMAND
root  wheel  025 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
smmsp smmsp 2525 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for 
 /var/spool/clientm


Yep; this works.

 
 And that you have the following lines somewhere in /etc/master.passwd:
 
 smmsp:*:25:25::0:0:Sendmail Submission 
 User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin
 mailnull:*:26:26::0:0:Sendmail Default 
 User:/var/spool/mqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin
 
 and the following in /etc/group:
 
 smmsp:*:25:
 mailnull:*:26:


PING: i'm missing mailnull. how long has sendmail had this
and if it is more than 6, 8 months, how ever was 6.2 sendmaiil
working

I just pasted in to master.passwd.   EERp; it is in /etc/group.
I never touch these files.   I did use vipw on tao last week but
not on ns1 (aka sage).   Got to check my backups of /etc for sage
and see.  

Proof:

staff:*:20:root
sshd:*:22:root
smmsp:*:25:root,kline
mailnull:*:26:

id anybody can come up with a SWAG, I'Ll buy you a beer next time
you're in seattle.   ...this is worse than who killed
jack-the-ripper.   could-- well... [[?? (bar)]]

 
 and that the actual sendmail binary (assuming you're using the base system
 sendmail and not one from ports) has the following ownership and permissions:
 
 # ls -l /usr/libexec/sendmail/
 total 688
 - -r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  686268 Dec 30 13:50 sendmail*
 

Ouch; things are getting stranger and stranger; on tuesdayi did a make
buildworld (plus a make kernel); then rebooted  and after four
hours of getty problems was finally able to get in an installworld.
Does this make any sense?  is this perhaps the 5.5 or 5,4 
sendmail...?

total 592
-r-xr-sr-x  

Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Gary Kline wrote:

  Then I checked my /etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org to see id anything there 
  could conceivably be hanging port 25.  Zip.  (I still updated the
  date and re-exed. I checked with ps and grep to find something new:

The best way to check for any processes listening on port 25 is:

% sockstat | grep :25 
root sendmail   1193  3  tcp4   81.187.76.162:25  *:*
root sendmail   1193  5  tcp4   127.0.0.1:25  *:*
root sendmail   1193  6  tcp6   ::1:25*:*
root sendmail   1193  7  tcp6   2001:8b0:151:1:240:5ff:fea5:8db7:25*:*

~
 624  ??  Ss 0:01.16 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/r
 p0 0:27 sage [5005]
 
  In theory I know pretty much what bind9does, c; but why this
  change?  (Part of my gnome (2.20) is missing so I cannot max
  enlarge the konsole; ps -alx does not wrap so I cant see the 
  entire string.)  I can pimg ns1.thought.org--obviously.  But if you
  see anything here,  Matthew, would you please let me know?

To get ps output without truncation, simply add 'ww' to the flags --
one 'w' gives you a 132 column output (shades of those old fan-fold line
printer TTYs there) and two (or more) 'w's gives you unlimited width:

# ps -alx | grep /usr/sbin/s
0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 select Ss??0:07.28 /usr/sbin/s
0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 /usr/sbin/s
# ps -alxww | grep /usr/sbin/s
0   689 1   0  44  0  3188  1240 -  Rs??0:07.29 
/usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/run/log -a 
81.187.76.161/32:4096 -l /var/named/var/run/log
0  1188 1   0  44  0  5640  3356 select Is??0:00.02 
/usr/sbin/sshd
 1001 16014  1376   0  44  0   380   260 -  R+p00:00.00 grep 
/usr/sbin/s

As for the presence of '-l /var/named/var/run/log' -- that's added
to the syslogd flags automatically by the /etc/rc.d/syslogd startup
script[*] if you're running named chrooted (which is the default). This
means that syslogd can log the items outside the chroot that are generated
by named within it.  You should see output from named in /var/log/all.log
- -- precisely what you see depends entirely on the logging configuration
in named.conf.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] The reason I have it twice is that a long time ago I'd also added
it to syslogd_flags manually, something I shall correct imminently.

- -- 
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  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Gary Kline wrote:

   Anybody know how I messed up? ---This is no excuse, but because 
   of the recent build problems I did wholesale ``portupgrades -af''
   (**sigh**)
 
   Why cannot creat the queue files??

At a guess, either the queue directories for either or both the MSP
and MTA sendmail instances have the wrong permissions or one or other
of MSP, MTA sendmail instances is running with the wrong user credentials.
You shouldn't get that by doing portupgrade -- certainly I've done a few
'portupgrade -af' jobs as part of 6.x - 7.0 upgrading and not seen
anything similar.

Anyhow, you can check that files and directories have the correct
ownership etc. by:

   # mtree -p / -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
   # mtree -p /var -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist

You can fix any problems by:

   # mtree -p / -U /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
   # mtree -p /var -U /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist

The other thing to check is that you are running sendmail using the
correct users and groups.  You should see something like this:

   # ps -o ruser,rgroup,svuid,svgid,command -p `head -1 /var/run/sendmail.pid` 
-p `head -1 /var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid`
   RUSER RGROUP SVUID SVGID COMMAND
   root  wheel  025 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
   smmsp smmsp 2525 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for 
/var/spool/clientm

And that you have the following lines somewhere in /etc/master.passwd:

smmsp:*:25:25::0:0:Sendmail Submission 
User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin
mailnull:*:26:26::0:0:Sendmail Default User:/var/spool/mqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin

and the following in /etc/group:

smmsp:*:25:
mailnull:*:26:

and that the actual sendmail binary (assuming you're using the base system
sendmail and not one from ports) has the following ownership and permissions:

# ls -l /usr/libexec/sendmail/
total 688
- -r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  686268 Dec 30 13:50 sendmail*

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:06PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
   In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   

I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring 
out why??
   
   Have you checked /var/log/maillog?
 
 Bill Moran
 http://www.potentialtech.com

The two lines you suggested I add to my .cf file idn't work,
Bill, but it was a  start at least.  
Somehow I managed to screw up even incoming mail on 
sage==ns1.  And most or all of my other internal servers 
are hosed too. TO get mail flowing again, at least incoming, I
retrieved that last sendmail from RCS and restarted mail.

I'm hoping that somebody can clue me in. It may be a peermissions 
problem. But where/ and why would this  be
a SYSERR problem. For instance, from my new server, when I try to send 
mail to my DNS server, the following is what is 
reported in maillog:



Jan  4 13:25:45 tao sendmail[18706]: m04LPjIr018706: SYSERR(kline): collect: 
Cannot write ./dfm04LPjIr018706 (bfcommit, uid=1004, gid=25): Permission denied
Jan  4 13:25:45 tao sendmail[18706]: m04LPjIr018706: from=kline, size=543, 
class=0, nrcpts=1, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  4 13:25:45 tao sendmail[18706]: m04LPjIr018706: SYSERR(kline): queueup: 
cannot create queue file ./qfm04LPjIr018706, euid=1004, fd=-1, fp=0x0: 
Permission denied


Anybody know how I messed up? ---This is no excuse, but because 
of the recent build problems I did wholesale ``portupgrades -af''
(**sigh**)

Why cannot creat the queue files??

gary





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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
   I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
   private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
 why??

Have you checked /var/log/maillog?

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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
  private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
  why??
 
 Have you checked /var/log/maillog?


yes.   i don't se e anything from tao, zen, ethos, nothing.

also nothing is in /var/spool/mqueue either.

anything i should be looking for in  maillog??


 
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 http://www.potentialtech.com

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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
  private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
  why??
 
 Have you checked /var/log/maillog?



Oh::: update, thing do get out from ns1.thought.org, my DNS server.

things do not get out to ns1. from my private network.
what should i do to get my local sendmails going??

SMNARTSERVERR maybe??

(I just swwitched tao2 to tao.)

ideas??





 
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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
  private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
  why??
 
 Have you checked /var/log/maillog?
 
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 http://www.potentialtech.com


MORE::


Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- MAIL From:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] SIZE=635
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]... Sender ok
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- RCPT 
To:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.1.5 
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Recipient ok
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- DATA
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 354 Enter mail, end 
with . on a line by itself
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=843, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=Daemon0, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.0.0 
m03MRshQ017367 Message accepted for delivery
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17366]: m03MRsC6017366: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=kline (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, 
pri=30635, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (m03MRshQ017367 
Message accepted for delivery)
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshR017367: -- QUIT
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshR017367: --- 221 2.0.0 
sage.thought.org closing connection
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Connecting to mx1.freebsd.org. via esmtp...
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: makeconnection 
(mx1.freebsd.org. [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) failed: No route to host
Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: SMTP outgoing connect on 
ns1
Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
unavailable
Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: 
to=freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), 
delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30843, 
relay=mx1.freebsd.org. [69.147.83.52], dsn=4.7.1, stat=Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
unavailable
Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing connection to 
mx1.freebsd.org.

I don't understand why freebsd.org seems unreachablea Do I have to 
configure IPv6?



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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
  In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   
 I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
 private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
   why??
  
  Have you checked /var/log/maillog?

This is what I was looking for.  See inline comments:

 MORE::
 
 
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- MAIL From:[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] SIZE=635
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]... Sender ok
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- RCPT 
 To:freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.1.5 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Recipient ok
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: -- DATA
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 354 Enter mail, end 
 with . on a line by itself
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: from=[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED], size=843, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 proto=ESMTP, daemon=Daemon0, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 250 2.0.0 
 m03MRshQ017367 Message accepted for delivery
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17366]: m03MRsC6017366: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 ctladdr=kline (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, 
 pri=30635, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
 (m03MRshQ017367 Message accepted for delivery)
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshR017367: -- QUIT
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17367]: m03MRshR017367: --- 221 2.0.0 
 sage.thought.org closing connection
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Connecting to mx1.freebsd.org. via esmtp...
 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: makeconnection 
 (mx1.freebsd.org. [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) failed: No route to host
   ^^
Here it's trying to connect the the IPv6 address for mx1.freebsd.org but
is unable to.  I'm going to go out with a limb and guess that you're not
using IPv6 yet.  Apparently you can add the following to your cf file:
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA')
CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA')

But I'm not a sendmail expert, so I can't verify that this information
is correct.

 Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: SMTP outgoing connect 
 on ns1
 Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
 unavailable

Why is this machine falling back to send mail via ns1?  If that's
intended, then ns1 needs to be configured to accept mail from this
system and act as a relay.

 Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: 
 to=freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), 
 delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30843, 
 relay=mx1.freebsd.org. [69.147.83.52], dsn=4.7.1, stat=Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
 unavailable
 Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing connection to 
 mx1.freebsd.org.
 
   I don't understand why freebsd.org seems unreachablea Do I have to 
 configure IPv6?

No, but apparently you need to tell sendmail that you haven't configured
IPv6.  Unless you're _trying_ to use IPv6, in which case there would
appear to be something wrong with you IPv6 config.

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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:06PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
   In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   

I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring 
out why??
   
   Have you checked /var/log/maillog?
 
 This is what I was looking for.  See inline comments:
 
  MORE::
  
  
[ ...  ]

  Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
  freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Connecting to mx1.freebsd.org. via 
  esmtp...
  Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: makeconnection 
  (mx1.freebsd.org. [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) failed: No route to host
^^
 Here it's trying to connect the the IPv6 address for mx1.freebsd.org but
 is unable to.  I'm going to go out with a limb and guess that you're not
 using IPv6 yet.  Apparently you can add the following to your cf file:
 DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA')
 CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA')
 
 But I'm not a sendmail expert, so I can't verify that this information
 is correct.
 
I'm FAR from savvy sendmail wise, but know enouhto assk if I have to 
run the
above options thru the preprocesssor.   Do you know??


Also, why-oh-why, can I only get out thru sage|ns1?  I can reach from
sage to here at toxic.magnesium.net.  But from nowhere else
.


anybody?  no wonder people have ben writing to see if i died or 
whatever..
my lifeline is dead.

  Jan  3 14:27:54 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: SMTP outgoing connect 
  on ns1
  Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: --- 050 
  freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG... Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
  freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
  unavailable
 
 Why is this machine falling back to send mail via ns1?  If that's
 intended, then ns1 needs to be configured to accept mail from this
 system and act as a relay.
 
  Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: m03MRshQ017367: 
  to=freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  (1001/1001), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30843, 
  relay=mx1.freebsd.org. [69.147.83.52], dsn=4.7.1, stat=Deferred: 450 4.7.1 
  freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: Recipient address rejected: Service is 
  unavailable
  Jan  3 14:27:55 sage sendmail[17370]: NOQUEUE: --- 050 Closing connection 
  to mx1.freebsd.org.
  
  I don't understand why freebsd.org seems unreachablea Do I have to 
  configure IPv6?
 
 No, but apparently you need to tell sendmail that you haven't configured
 IPv6.  Unless you're _trying_ to use IPv6, in which case there would
 appear to be something wrong with you IPv6 config.


Hm  ok,  well, i've used to dooted-demical, but going for 64 or 128
bits is  . well, no wonder i feel like a fossil!

thanks muchly,

gary

 
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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:06:49PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  
  I stumpped.   I get incomiing ail, but nothing gets out from my 
  private networked servers. Anybody know where to start figuring out 
  why??
 
 Have you checked /var/log/maillog?
 


All right. adding your options didn't seemto help get me to fbsd.org, 
but I just send mail from my old tao2 and my newer tao here to 
magnesium.net.


Can anybody bmake  sense of this from my  mailloog files??

11st tao2::  (used to be mmy #1:



Jan  3 15:59:54 tao2 sm-mta[93720]: m03NxrGL093720: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=775, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, 
daemon=IPv4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Jan  3 15:59:54 tao2 sendmail[93718]: m03NxqBQ093718: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=kline (1001/1001), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, 
pri=30493, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (m03NxrGL093720 
Message accepted for delivery)
Jan  3 15:59:55 tao2 sm-mta[93722]: STARTTLS=client, 
relay=toxic.magnesium.net., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, 
cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256
Jan  3 15:59:56 tao2 sm-mta[93722]: m03NxrGL093720: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:02, 
mailer=esmtp, pri=30775, relay=toxic.magnesium.net. [207.154.84.15], dsn=2.0.0, 
stat=Sent (Ok: queued as D9F19DA9AD)
   

Next, from my new tao:



Jan  3 14:33:53 tao sendmail[48500]: m03MXr7b048500: from=kline, size=40, 
class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  3 14:33:53 tao sm-mta[48503]: m03MXrHB048503: [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User 
unknown
Jan  3 14:33:53 tao sendmail[48500]: m03MXr7b048500: to=sage.thought.org, 
ctladdr=kline (1004/1004), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, 
pri=30040, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown
Jan  3 14:33:53 tao sm-mta[48503]: m03MXrHB048503: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=40, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=IPv4, 
relay=localhost.thought.org [127.0.0.1]
Jan  3 16:03:26 tao sendmail[94146]: m0403Qsv094146: SYSERR(kline): collect: 
Cannot write ./dfm0403Qsv094146 (bfcommit, uid=1004, gid=25): Permission denied
Jan  3 16:03:26 tao sendmail[94146]: m0403Qsv094146: from=kline, size=546, 
class=0, nrcpts=1, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan  3 16:03:26 tao sendmail[94146]: m0403Qsv094146: SYSERR(kline): queueup: 
cannot create queue file ./qfm0403Qsv094146, euid=1004, fd=-1, fp=0x0: 
Permission denied


I  noticed thw queing problems earlier.  Who should own the mqueue 
directories?   This is from tao; busted.

2 drwxr-x---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Jan  3 14:33 clientmqueue
2 drwx-wx---  3 cups   cups512 Dec 30 09:05 cups
2 drwxrwxr-x  2 uucp   dialer  512 Jan  3 10:28 lock
2 drwxr-xr-x  4 root   daemon  512 Jun 30  2007 lpd
2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root   daemon  512 Jan  3 14:11 mqueue
2 drwx--  2 root   daemon  512 Jan 11  2007 opielocks
2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root   daemon  512 May 24  2007 output
p4 16:12 tao [3499]  


This is from my OLD tao:



2 drwxrwx---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Jan  3 15:59 clientmqueue
2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root   daemon  512 Dec 21 01:14 cups
2 drwxrwxr-x  2 uucp   dialer  512 Dec 29 13:07 lock
2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root   daemon  512 Sep  9  2006 lpd
2 drwxr-xr-x  2 root   daemon  512 Jan  3 16:00 mqueue
2 drwx--  2 root   daemon  512 Nov  4  2004 opielocks
2 drwxr-xr-x  3 root   daemon  512 Sep  9  2006 output
p6 16:14 tao2 [5014] 


This is from my DNS server where things work, at least partly.


anybody?


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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Thursday 03 January 2008 06:22:38 pm Gary Kline wrote:
 This is from my OLD tao:
 2 drwxrwx---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Jan  3 15:59 clientmqueue

possible chmod 770 the clientmqueue on the new?

seems like i had a similar trouble when i migrated my sendmail server into a 
jail a while back.  (and mine's currently a 770).

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Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Thursday 03 January 2008 08:55:44 pm Jonathan Horne wrote:
 On Thursday 03 January 2008 06:22:38 pm Gary Kline wrote:
  This is from my OLD tao:
  2 drwxrwx---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Jan  3 15:59 clientmqueue

 possible chmod 770 the clientmqueue on the new?

 seems like i had a similar trouble when i migrated my sendmail server into
 a jail a while back.  (and mine's currently a 770).

 good luck,

if that turns out to be what it was, you can check stuck mail with

mailq

and then, you can flush it on thru with 

/usr/sbin/sendmail -v -q -C/etc/mail/sendmail.cf

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RE: outgoing mail STOPPED.

2008-01-03 Thread Mark
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Kline
Sent: vrijdag 4 januari 2008 1:23
To: Bill Moran
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
Subject: Re: outgoing mail STOPPED.

 2 drwxr-x---  2 smmsp  smmsp   512 Jan  3 14:33 clientmqueue

Seems to me clientmqueue is no longer group-writeable.

- Mark


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