Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-11-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew clarke mail_ozzmosis.com said (on 2008/10/29): You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any port) is of very low priority in comparison to the rest of the system (testing,

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Creating the package

RE: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread joeb
PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8. That is almost 3 years of waiting to get in the cluster build process. I am

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Remko Lodder
On Wed, October 29, 2008 9:09 am, FBSD1 wrote: It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Creating the package after

RE: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread joeb
-Original Message- From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:47 PM To: FBSD1 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: It's my understanding

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Oct-29 16:09:23 +0800, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. I'm not sure what

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Erik Trulsson
: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:47 PM To: FBSD1 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread andrew clarke
On Wed 2008-10-29 16:53:26 UTC+0800, joeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8. That is almost 3 years of waiting to get in the cluster build process. You need

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 10/29/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that a port maintainer has to install the port for real any time a change is made to the port make files or a update to the source of the software to test and verify the changes work as wanted. Port maintainers usually verify

RE: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Remko Lodder
] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. Well if you have this cluster build process why have some ports never been built all the way back to release 5.0 like kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread freebsd
andrew clarke mail_ozzmosis.com said (on 2008/10/29): You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any port) is of very low priority in comparison to the rest of the system (testing, documentation, etc).

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread andrew clarke
On Wed 2008-10-29 04:10:33 UTC-0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm not sure I got all the emails in this thread... maybe some just haven't arrived yet. It began on freebsd-ports, then the OP started cross-posting to -questions, so I moved my replies to -questions.

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread mdh
--- On Wed, 10/29/08, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ports missing their packages. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 4:09 AM It's my understanding that a port maintainer has

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread RW
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:10:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew clarke mail_ozzmosis.com said (on 2008/10/29): You need to understand that the FreeBSD project by its nature is primarily source-code driven. Making packages available (of any port) is of very low priority in comparison to

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:09:23PM +0800, FBSD1 wrote: An alternate solution to this problem is to allow users to upload missing packages one word for you: security. What you suggest is never, ever, going to be implemented, due to the total lack of security. mcl

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:42:18AM -0500, Scot Hetzel wrote: So you are advocating that port maintainers have to create packages for all the supported FreeBSD architecture's (amd64, arm, i386, ia64, mips, pc98, powerpc, sparc64, sun4v). That would be 9 packages needing to be created at the

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:02:14PM +0800, joeb wrote: How does kdenetwork-kopete-0.12.8 or php5-gd or pdflib fit into those reasons you gave? A little research shows: ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/php5-gd-5.2.6_2.tbz So, there is a current package for

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:55:20AM -0700, mdh wrote: email the FreeBSD Foundation and find out how much cash it'd take for additional hardware to make that a reality, then send them that much cash. We are actually set up ok on amd64 machines right now (incremental package builds take just

Re: ports missing their packages.

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2008-Oct-29 10:22:36 -0500, Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also have some sparc64 machines that are on loan to us, which I am also in the process of configuration, but these are only UltraSPARC-II machines. There seems to be some work going on right now to get us running on US-III