Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-17 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
mell miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going that way, 
> but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid question but since in 
> the past i've disregarded such questions thinking they were unimportant or that the 
> answer was obvious only to later regret it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly 
> all software and hardware is window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does 
> this mean bsd users are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is 
> most software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?

I have had very good luck when it comes to using FreeBSD. There is a large amount of 
software existing in the ports.

Check out...
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going 
> that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid 
> quesion but since in the past i've disregarded such questions thinking 
> they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to later regret 
> it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and hardware is 
> window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this mean bsd users 
> are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is most 
> software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?

While it is true that hardware makers target their stuff at windoz,
and many of them don't bother to make drivers for FreeBSD, the FreeBSD
community is very active in trying to keep up with the latest hardware.
Generally, most hardware except some very esoteric and/or cheaply
thrown together stuff is aupported by FreeBSD.New drivers and
updates of existing ones are becoming available all the time.  

As for software, last count I heard there are over 7000 ports available 
free for FreeBSD.  Many of those are very good, well made and reliable.
I expect you are mostly thinking of desktop and office stuff.  There are 
equivalents for most things and some of them are even superior to those 
that come with Win - word processors, spreadsheets, etc.   Some can be
a little disappointing and some require a little extra work to get
going and get looking just like you want.  But, it can be done.

If you are talking about server software, what is avialable for FreeBSD 
generally is far superior to what is available in the MS world.  Web 
servers, DNS, NAT, Firewall, proxy, network disk, etc, etc.

jerry
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Please wrap your lines around 72 characters or so.  See:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
mell miller wrote:
hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering going
> that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a stupid
> question but since in the past i've disregarded such questions thinking
> they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to later regret
> it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and hardware is
> window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this mean bsd users
> are left out in the cold or are there alternative releases or is most
> software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
> Except that the Gatos drivers i general need an patched linux DRM kernel
> module and/or at least the Video4Linux linux kernel subsystem. To my
> knowledge freebsd doesn't support either. (Although I'm a bit outdated
> since i gave up on gatos and ATI-tuners/video inn/out chipsetts about a
> year ago.)


I've had it working fine on my FreeBSD machine.

Ken

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread heikki soerum
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
Kenneth Wayne Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I have the ATI Raedon 7500 all in wonder, and finding out if the tv
> > tuner works in freebsd or not has been quite fruitless so far.
> 
> Google for gatos.
Except that the Gatos drivers i general need an patched linux DRM kernel
module and/or at least the Video4Linux linux kernel subsystem.
To my knowledge freebsd doesn't support either.
(Although I'm a bit outdated since i gave up on gatos and
ATI-tuners/video inn/out chipsetts about a year ago.)

Ixian.

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RE: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
> I have the ATI Raedon 7500 all in wonder, and finding out if the tv
> tuner works in freebsd or not has been quite fruitless so far.

Google for gatos.

Ken

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> >> Kenneth Wayne Culver
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> >> To: Rus Foster
> >> Cc: mell miller; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: software/hardware question
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> > There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do
> >> require Windows
> >> > as some of the work the hardware would normally do is
> >> handeled on the CPU.
> >> > However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware
> >> I've chucked at
> >> > it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work
> >> to but normally
> >> > it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware
> >> you have got I'm
> >> > sure we can help you
> >> >
> >> Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d
> >> acceleration on
> >> the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with
> >> anything from
> >> 9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
> >> geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.
> >>
> >> Ken
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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
> Hi,
> There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do require Windows
> as some of the work the hardware would normally do is handeled on the CPU.
> However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware I've chucked at
> it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work to but normally
> it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware you have got I'm
> sure we can help you
>
Yeah, you should be fine as long as you don't expect 3d acceleration on
the latest video cards. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, along with anything from
9500 up don't have 3d acceleration support, and anything later than a
geforce 4 from nvidia is missing 3d support as well.

Ken

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Re: software/hardware question

2003-06-16 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, mell miller wrote:

> hi all, i've just recently heard of bsd and am seriously considering
> going that way, but before i go much further i have what is likely a
> stupid question but since in the past i've disregarded such questions
> thinking they were unimportant or that the answer was obvious only to
> later regret it i shall ask my stupid question.  nearly all software and
> hardware is window compatable and most require a windows o/s, does this
> mean bsd users are left out in the cold or are there alternative
> releases or is most software/hardware also compatable with a bsd o/s?

Hi,
There are things called winmodems and winprinters which do require Windows
as some of the work the hardware would normally do is handeled on the CPU.
However I've found FreeBSD to work on 99% of the hardware I've chucked at
it without any problems. sometimes its take a bit of work to but normally
it will be fine. If you let us know what sort of hardware you have got I'm
sure we can help you

Rgds

Rus

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