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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:14, Erik Osterholm wrote
Jonathan McKeown writes:
Your comment about third world countries is one of the most
narrow-minded, ignorant and arrogant statements I've heard in
many years of listening to petty bigots - quite apart from the
fact that you're extending what I stated was a personal opinion
to an entire
Let me be the one to point out the (next) controversial thing:
here's a
perfect example why using linux binaries for stuff like this is
a dead end.
And don't even start about the PC-BSD folks who want to make
flash9 work
via WINE.
We need a native flash or a replacement for
Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are
wrappers all
other barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work
intermittently. Correct me if I'm wrong guys
I hear you. I have used both Firefox and Opera and have never gotten
flash to work as easily and consistently as
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Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 21:50, Chuck Robey wrote:
Jonathan McKeown wrote:
[snip]
There are a few sites which don't work without Flash. Having checked on a
number of occasions, I've found (and I stress this is a
Interestingly enough, I just did a quick perusal of the URLs I frequent,
and virtually all of them, in one form or another, asked for 'Flash'.
Even 'sourceforge.net' greeted me with this friendly message:
You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all
content on this page.
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:34:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
Interestingly enough, I just did a quick perusal of the URLs I frequent,
and virtually all of them
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:25:05AM -0800, Andriy Babiy wrote:
Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are
wrappers all
other barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work
intermittently. Correct me if I'm wrong guys
I hear you. I have used both Firefox and
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 04:34:21PM -0500, Gerard wrote:
Interestingly enough, I just did a quick perusal of the URLs I frequent,
and virtually all of them, in one form or another, asked for 'Flash'.
Even 'sourceforge.net' greeted me with this friendly message:
You need to install the
I said:
Maybe Qt's ActiveQt (wrapper for windows' activex) might be of some value to
implement active x support to some extend and use the windows targetted
controls rather than NSplugin. I reckon it possible but it probably won't be
very easy, all the real heavy lifting would have to be
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 20:17:03 you wrote:
Let me be the one to point out the (next) controversial thing:
here's a
perfect example why using linux binaries for stuff like this is
a dead end.
And don't even start about the PC-BSD folks who want to make
flash9 work
via
Erik Osterholm writes:
- Petition Adobe to release an official version and/or reduce the
phantom restrictions[1] on the binaries so that they can run
under emulation.
I don't have the link at hand, but Adobe is supposedly working
woth open source folks so the next generation
On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:14, Erik Osterholm wrote:
IMHO, for an individual to state that Flash is not a relevant issue
simply because they choose not to employ it, is similar to patient
claiming that cancer research is a waste of time simply because they
are not afflicted with the
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:39:41 +0100
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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the
quality
is unusable.
they will have to respond, and more people doing this will give them a lot
of work :) and will motivate them to think
it does not amtter how you do it as long as you address the sales department.
exactly what i say - ask sales department to send product data by e-mail,
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) skrev:
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Read this (in the license agreement):
...
For the avoidance of doubt, no embedded or device versions of the above
operating systems, or any other operating systems, are included as Authorized
This of course doesn't help them if their web designer can't fix the design
issue, which is why it would be an issue in the first place. Or the designer
will say its ok- show statistics which are becoming rapidly outdated and say
its only a minority.
they could simply pay other web designer,
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 00:27:53 Da Rock wrote:
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:50:40 -0500
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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
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Jonathan McKeown wrote
TTY's, and they can't understand why any folks would need mouses. Those of
while not using this TTYs, i can't understand too.
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Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote:
All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I don't
know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web using flash in
one way or antoehr, not
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:16:56 +0100
Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 00:27:53 Da Rock wrote:
Date
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:16:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:55:45 +
Da Rock wrote:
Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:55:45 +
Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are wrappers all
other barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work
intermittently. Correct me if I'm wrong guys
I hear you. I have used both Firefox and Opera and
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:11:04 +0200
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Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
Dear all,
all this is very exciting, but as BSD user I was never able to make
the thing work
Dear all,
all this is very exciting, but as BSD user I was never able to make
the thing work anyway.
So after all is said and done, would it be possible to have a guide
describing how to make the thing work?
Thanks,
All the best
Takis
2008/2/11, Reid Linnemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Written by
Hah! Good luck... I never got it work either, There are wrappers all other
barriers to stop you. And even then it may only work intermittently. Correct me
if I'm wrong guys
as i remember (once i did this) you have to install all from linux-* names
like linux-opera, linux-flashplugin
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 21:50, Chuck Robey wrote:
Jonathan McKeown wrote:
[snip]
There are a few sites which don't work without Flash. Having checked on a
number of occasions, I've found (and I stress this is a personal opinion)
that heavy use of Flash is a fairly reliable marker of a
Agree here, but open-source friendly companies that promote the use
of flash are much worse. As it seems to be, the reason why people want
to use flash on FreeBSD is youtube in most of cases.
you don't need flash to view youtobe movies.
simply get URL from there, use youtube-dl from ports to
Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by Heiko Wundram (Beenic) on 02/11/08 08:40
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59
I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin.
Apparently, none of the
Written by Jonathan McKeown on 02/11/08 12:36
On Monday 11 February 2008 16:40, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement
explicitly forbids
On Monday 11 February 2008 20:36, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
Are we sure the licence still bans FreeBSD?
And it turns out that everyone else is looking at the Macromedia Shockwave
Player licence, and I'm looking at the Adobe Flash player licence.
FWIW, Shockwave (which claims to include the
Written by Wojciech Puchar on 02/11/08 13:02
Jonathan
The information I posted appears to be irrelevant now; from
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/96374 the license issue
appears to be resolved, but FreeBSD is still not permitted to
distribute linux-flashplugin, that right
Chuck Robey wrote:
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YouTube? Isn't the right spelling YouPorn?
No, it isn't. If you find nothing worth watching on *You*Tube, it
doesn't mean that others can't find interesting things. For example, I
find there a
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
YouTube? Isn't the right spelling YouPorn?
No, it isn't. If you find nothing worth watching on *You*Tube, it
doesn't mean that others can't find interesting things. For example, I
find there a lot of good and
this is just example of crap-design,
I agree. Although I don't think everybody will.
i don't care what others think.
and i simply don't view them..
I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample:
When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I was
interested in
Wojciech Puchar cut a corner:
but there are sites that you can't do anything without flash, as even
navigation requires this.
True.
this is just example of crap-design,
I agree. Although I don't think everybody will.
and i simply don't view them..
I'm afraid it's not that simple.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 11:04:09PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote:
All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I
don't know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web
using flash in one way or antoehr, not
On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote:
All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I don't
know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web using flash in
one way or antoehr, not using Flash is a huge problem, as anyone who
browses without a
On Monday 11 February 2008 16:40, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement
explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD.
possibly (my connection is to slow now to try realtime) you may do
mplayer `youtube-dl -g URL`
gnash and swfdec-plugin (both in ports) will also play youtube movies if
you need them in your browser for some reason :)
2 more reasons to not use proprietary non-portable software with strange
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:40:34 +0100
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Read this (in the license agreement):
...
For the avoidance of doubt, no embedded or device versions of the
above operating systems, or any other operating
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59
I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin.
Apparently, none of the file exist in the ftp repositories anymore. Any
idea what happened
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59
I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin.
Apparently, none of the file exist in the ftp repositories anymore. Any
idea what happened there?
James
from /usr/ports/UPDATING:
2006-04-08
Affects: users of
without), and the small number of Flash-only sites I encounter hasn't caused
me temporary inconvenience, never mind ``a huge problem''.
Lots of sites use Flash, but most don't /require/ it.
exactly.
but there are sites that you can't do anything without flash, as even
navigation requires
this is excellent licence. this will make users smart enough to use ports
subsystem - able to use it, while others (who installed FreeBSD because
they heard it's better than linux vista or whatever) - will not ;)
heh - a darwinian user filter, yes?
good description.
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Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nikola Lečić wrote:
[...]
Agree here, but open-source friendly companies that promote the
use of flash are much worse. As it seems to be, the reason why
people
Jonathan
The information I posted appears to be irrelevant now; from
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/96374 the license issue
appears to be resolved, but FreeBSD is still not permitted to
distribute linux-flashplugin, that right being reserved by
authorized operating systems and
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
possibly (my connection is to slow now to try realtime) you may do
mplayer `youtube-dl -g URL`
gnash and swfdec-plugin (both in ports) will also play youtube movies if
you need them in your browser for some reason :)
2 more reasons to not use proprietary non-portable
I have often felt that someone who cares so little or needs such
ego massaging as to make a difficult-to-use commercial website is
or simply - he paid a webdesigner, because his webpages looked good.
most people don't understand that are many browsers, many systems, many
different computers.
Hi,
Nikola Lečić wrote:
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Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is another reason why Flash is bad, bad, bad. Am I repeating
myself?
this is known. I mean, it is known that Flash is bad.
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Agree here, but open-source friendly companies that promote the use
of flash are much worse. As it seems to be, the reason why people want
to use flash on FreeBSD is youtube in most of cases.
you don't need flash to view youtobe movies.
simply get URL from there,
Written by Heiko Wundram (Beenic) on 02/11/08 08:40
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59
I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin.
Apparently, none of the file exist in the ftp
...where Authorized Operating Systems is only Windows, Linux, Solaris and
Mac OS as defined before the initial sentence, and as such, there's no clause
that allows you to use the software on BSDs, and finally, that makes it
forbidden to use on BSDs.
This is another reason why Flash is bad,
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:37:23 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which I
And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which I hope will
reach 98% of the web, including disability access, and will be at least readable to
browser that might not display content correctly. I think its a sham how a lot of web
design companies- particularly here
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:52:26 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
this is just example of crap-design,
I agree. Although I don't think everybody will.
i don't care
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:00:27AM +, Da Rock wrote:
include link to www.anybrowser.org on your pages :)
Mind you I'm building clients sites this way, as well as my own. The
link looks good, but is there a way for me to get as many browsers
and platforms to check my pages for
Hi,
just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the
quality of their website that you have to buy somewhere else.
Do not send this to the webmaster, send it to the sales department.
Those people fight for the clients and give a shit on technology.
Erich
Alphons Fonz
YouTube? Isn't the right spelling YouPorn?
No, it isn't. If you find nothing worth watching on *You*Tube, it
doesn't mean that others can't find interesting things. For example, I
find there a lot of good and difficult-to-find material from some fields
of art.
get this interestinf stuff down
just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the quality
of their website that you have to buy somewhere else.
Do not send this to the webmaster, send it to the sales department.
Those people fight for the clients and give a shit on technology.
exactly. they simply
Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 11 February 2008 16:40, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Montag, 11. Februar 2008 15:32:26 schrieb Erich Dollansky:
Hi,
Reid Linnemann wrote:
These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement
explicitly forbids to run
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:35:13PM +, Alphons Fonz van Werven wrote:
Wojciech Puchar cut a corner:
I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample:
When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I was
interested in turned out to have a Flash-only website. I could
Written by James on 02/10/08 21:59
I just tried a portupgrade out and it failed on linux flashplugin.
Apparently, none of the file exist in the ftp repositories anymore. Any
idea what happened there?
James
from /usr/ports/UPDATING:
2006-04-08
Affects: users of www/linux-flashplugin*
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:35:13PM +, Alphons Fonz van Werven wrote:
Wojciech Puchar cut a corner:
but there are sites that you can't do anything without flash, as even
navigation requires this.
True.
this is just example of crap-design,
I agree. Although I don't think
Hi,
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
just send them an e-mail telling them that you are so sorry about the
quality of their website that you have to buy somewhere else.
Do not send this to the webmaster, send it to the sales department.
Those people fight for the clients and give a shit on
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