At 01:58 10/6/2013, Polytropon wrote:
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote:
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line.
Very limited commands: ls: not found.
Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead.
Why? What good are these disks if they don't have
the most basic of
At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote:
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line.
Very limited commands: ls: not found.
Why? What good are these disks if they don't have
the most basic of commands?
The emergency holographic shell was always very
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote:
At 08:47 10/6/2013, Warren Block wrote:
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote:
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line.
Very limited commands: ls: not found.
Why? What good are these disks if they don't have
the most basic of commands?
The emergency
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:45:58 -0500, W. D. wrote:
Thanks, Polytropon. I couldn't get FrieSBIE to work.
It's a rather old project, and as far as I know, it isn't
being continued anymore. It should still support at least
the CLI mode for most computers... (I have to admit that
I'm still using it,
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 01:29:19 -0500, W. D. wrote:
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line.
Very limited commands: ls: not found.
Try /rescue/ls explicitely instead.
Why? What good are these disks if they don't have
the most basic of commands?
Only live systems offer more than
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, W. D. wrote:
Booted with both. Alt-F4 to get to command line.
Very limited commands: ls: not found.
Why? What good are these disks if they don't have
the most basic of commands?
The emergency holographic shell was always very limited. I suspect a
path thing, with it
On 2013-08-19 16:12, Ben Laurie wrote:
On 19 August 2013 09:15, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 05:35:48 -0400
Ben Laurie b...@links.org wrote:
Using grip, trying to rip a CD, I get:
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB
size to 10
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 05:35:48 -0400
Ben Laurie b...@links.org wrote:
Using grip, trying to rip a CD, I get:
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB
size to 10 bytes
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): MODE SENSE(10). CDB: 5a 0 e 0 0 0 0 0 20 0
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): CAM status:
On 19 August 2013 09:15, Rares Aioanei bsdlis...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 05:35:48 -0400
Ben Laurie b...@links.org wrote:
Using grip, trying to rip a CD, I get:
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB
size to 10 bytes
(cd0:ahcich3:0:0:0): MODE
logger logs to syslog, so unless you have user.notice logging to
/var/log/testing.log this
will probably not do what you are expecting. Have a look in /var/log/messages
for
something like this.
Jun 27 16:38:03 xxx-hostname base_http_access: /var/log/testing.log
Otherwise, you may want to setup
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Waitman Gobble gobble...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote:
On 05/06/2013 17:00, Waitman Gobble wrote:
If you must have a web based version, another option is DIY roll your
own ports index based on your
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote:
On 05/06/2013 17:00, Waitman Gobble wrote:
If you must have a web based version, another option is DIY roll your
own ports index based on your own local ports tree. At least you can
set it up how you want.
a simple
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:08:15 -0500, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:
I can not get current version of the ports system.
The ports web page http://www.freebsd.org/ports/
is almost 2 years out of date. Says the port I am
On 05/06/2013 17:00, Waitman Gobble wrote:
If you must have a web based version, another option is DIY roll your
own ports index based on your own local ports tree. At least you can
set it up how you want.
a simple quick-together script running on my computer:
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:00:02PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
collision of the free...@chthonixia.net flavor, containing:
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:54:59PM -0600, Tom Russo wrote:
Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using
portupgrade and its associated
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:54:59PM -0600, Tom Russo wrote:
Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using
portupgrade and its associated tools?
I use portupgrade and have noticed no failures. I have never used
pkg_glob so I cannot address that. I have used portupgrade as
Joe Altman writes:
Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using
portupgrade and its associated tools?
I use portupgrade and have noticed no failures.
I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there
is probably a pkgng replacement, I just
On 27/04/2013 14:43, Robert Huff wrote:
I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there
is probably a pkgng replacement, I just haven't bothered to check)
and pkg_sort (for which there is no alternative) which is necessary
for certain scripts.
Well, given that pkgng is a
Matthew Seaman writes:
I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there
is probably a pkgng replacement, I just haven't bothered to check)
and pkg_sort (for which there is no alternative) which is necessary
for certain scripts.
Well, given that pkgng is a
OK
But modulo CH3CH2OH
You need to learn the neue pkg system
how it differez
On 26 April 2013 16:54, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:
I used to be able to run pkg_glob to see what packages have been updated
since a given date. For example, if I do a big 'portupgrade -fr
somepackage'
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify that:
| Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project.
| Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
| The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
| FreeBSD is a
Od: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Do: vermaden verma...@interia.pl;
Wysłane: 17:11 Sobota 2013-02-23
Temat: Re: Why not simplify Copyright at boot/dmesg?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify that:
| Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:14:48 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Od: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Do: vermaden verma...@interia.pl;
Wysłane: 17:11 Sobota 2013-02-23
Temat: Re: Why not simplify Copyright at boot/dmesg?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:50 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify that:
| Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project.
| Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
| 1994 The Regents of
On 02/23/13 12:32, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:50 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify that:
| Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project.
| Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,
On 2/23/2013 1:10 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
On 02/23/13 12:32, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:11:50 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:47:10 +0100, vermaden wrote:
Why not simplify that:
| Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project.
|
On 02/23/13 15:33, Joshua Isom wrote:
On 2/23/2013 1:10 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
snip
It seems the regents copyright claims end in 1994. Perhaps some
underlying piece of code is still in FreeBSD requiring this notice?
Perhaps the creation of FreeBSD and the release of 4.4BSD? Nothing
Thank You all for explanations, it seems logical now ;)
Regards,
vermaden
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0600
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/23/13 15:33, Joshua Isom wrote:
On 2/23/2013 1:10 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
snip
It seems the regents copyright claims end in 1994. Perhaps some
underlying piece of code is still in FreeBSD
On 2/23/2013 4:23 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:56:46 -0600
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/23/13 15:33, Joshua Isom wrote:
On 2/23/2013 1:10 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
snip
It seems the regents copyright claims end in 1994. Perhaps some
On 23/02/2013 23:17, Joshua Isom wrote:
That also ties in with NIH syndrome. Gnu does that a lot just to make
sure they can change to GPLv4 without problems, while Linux is still
GPLv2. It's also not just Berkeley, but other people and
organizations hold copyrights. From a quick glance,
schrieb Harald Schmalzbauer am 14.02.2013 13:34 (localtime):
Hello,
I found fsc (http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/fsc/) to be extremely
useful.
Unfortunately, I can't get some services to be monitored, fscadm
enable just failes with Could not monitor service.
I don't know how kqueue
On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Jin Guojun wrote:
When attached a Trendent TU2-ET100 USB Ether dongle for a second interface,
it
has no problem to talk to the local network (10.234.37.0/24), but it has
problem
to talk to a remote network or host (10.227.148.0/24) via eu0 interface.
When a
...@mac.com
To: Jin Guojun jguo...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: questions freebsd questi...@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 12:55:07 PM
Subject: Re: Why ue0 do ARP on non local address when using static route?
On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Jin Guojun wrote:
When attached a Trendent TU2-ET100 USB Ether
Jin Guojun jguo...@sbcglobal.net writes:
This is 8.3-Release on a HP EliteBook 8460p (4-core i5) with an on board
Intel
(em0) interface.
When attached a Trendent TU2-ET100 USB Ether dongle for a second interface,
it
has no problem to talk to the local network (10.234.37.0/24), but it
On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Jin Guojun wrote:
/etc/ethers does not help because there is no way resolve the IP by QFHN in
ethers.
I'm not sure what QFHN is, but setting up an entry in /etc/ethers provides
the IP to MAC address mapping that ARP attempts to provide dynamically.
The correct
To: Jin Guojun jguo...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: questions freebsd questi...@freebsd.org
Sent: Wed, February 13, 2013 2:33:57 PM
Subject: Re: Why ue0 do ARP on non local address when using static route?
On Feb 13, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Jin Guojun wrote:
/etc/ethers does not help because there is no way resolve
Jin Guojun jguo...@sbcglobal.net writes:
man page says that ethernet-address (MAC) + fully-qualified-host-name (FQHN).
The issue is that host cannot resolve the address by using FQHN, thus no ARP
any
more, but no traffic either.
After adding FQDH in the /etc/hosts file then, ARP request
Den 06.02.2013 00:03, skrev Per olof Ljungmark:
Hi,
Upgraded a system from 8.3 to 9-STABLE and did make delete-old-libs
afterwards. System has around thirty ports installed and all except
bacula-client upgraded gracefully.
Why does it want libz.so.5 when libz.so.6 is present? I'm pretty sure
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:32:46 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
It's my understanding that the sequence of numbers one sees output when
shutdown is issued reflect writes of cached items.
Is that correct?
If so, why does:
sync
shutdown -r now
still show cached items being written?
Issuing the
On 05/11/2012 11:24, Yuri wrote:
When I am setting shared_buffers=6GB in postgresql.conf it fails to start:
DETAIL: Failed system call was shmget(key=5432001, size=6612361216, 03600).
even though kern.ipc.shmmax is set to ~7GB:
$ sysctl -a | grep shm
kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed: 0
Hi,
I'm running Postgresql 9.1 on FreeBSD 9.0 with the following settings:
# postgresql.conf
shared_buffers = 8GB # pgtune wizard 2012-04-04
# /boot/loader.conf
kern.ipc.semmni=256
kern.ipc.semmns=512
kern.ipc.semmnu=256
kern.ipc.semumr=200
vm.pmap.shpgperproc=400
vm.pmap.pv_entry_max=50331648
Le Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:54:45 -0700,
Yuri y...@rawbw.com a écrit :
RELENG_9 is supposed to represent the latest branch of 9.1. De facto,
code says it is PRERELEASE (sys/conf/newvers.sh).
But freebsd.org on its front page says 9.1 is at RC-2.
So how can I get RC-2 through cvsup except through
On 10/28/2012 07:17, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
RELENG_9 should be called 9-STABLE, if you want 9.1 use RELENG_9_1
Hm, if they wanted to keep RELENG_9 as stable 9.X branch, why then
9.1-PRERELEASE is there? Is PRERELEASE considered more stable than RC?
This looks strange to me.
Yuri
Yuri yuri at rawbw.com writes:
On 10/28/2012 07:17, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
RELENG_9 should be called 9-STABLE, if you want 9.1 use RELENG_9_1
Hm, if they wanted to keep RELENG_9 as stable 9.X branch, why then
9.1-PRERELEASE is there? Is PRERELEASE considered more stable than RC?
Le Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:48:19 -0700,
Yuri y...@rawbw.com a écrit :
RELENG_9 should be called 9-STABLE, if you want 9.1 use RELENG_9_1
Hm, if they wanted to keep RELENG_9 as stable 9.X branch, why then
9.1-PRERELEASE is there? Is PRERELEASE considered more stable than
RC? This looks strange
[ Gary Aitken wrote on Wed 22.Aug'12 at 23:39:16 -0600 ]
Can anyone shed light on why /etc/namedb is a symlink to
/var/named/etc/namedb?
It seems to me this is general configuration stuff which should be in
/etc/namedb on the root partition, not on /var. I thought /var was used for
El día Wednesday, August 22, 2012 a las 11:39:16PM -0600, Gary Aitken escribió:
Can anyone shed light on why /etc/namedb is a symlink to
/var/named/etc/namedb?
It seems to me this is general configuration stuff which should be in
/etc/namedb on the root partition, not on /var. I thought
On 23/08/2012 06:39, Gary Aitken wrote:
Can anyone shed light on why /etc/namedb is a symlink to
/var/named/etc/namedb?
Because named chroots into /var/named in the default configuration.
Cheers,
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.
PGP:
I think it's likely that it is a 64-bit installation.
Not sure about that. How could the amd64 OS be installed
and run on a i386 machine?
it cannot.
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I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's an
i686 CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working. So
I tried both:
you've got into wrong directory
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf is right
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf is wrong, unless you have 64-bit
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's an i686
CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working. So I
tried both:
you've got into wrong directory
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf is right
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf is wrong, unless you have 64-bit
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Jason: It looks like you may have installed the 64-bit distribution on your
nonsense. 64-bit distribution doesn't run on 32-bit computer.
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From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Aug 7 02:44:36 2012
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 09:41:41 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org
Cc: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why can't I
...@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Jason: It looks like you may have installed the 64-bit distribution on
your
nonsense. 64-bit distribution doesn't run on 32-bit computer
To: Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org
Cc: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Jason: It looks like you may have installed the 64-bit
distribution on your
: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org
Cc: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why can't I set my cpu type in kernel config ?
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Jason: It looks like you may
make LINT
vi LINT
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jason Usher jushe...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's an
i686 CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working. So I
tried both:
cpu I586_CPU
and:
cpu
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
Jason Usher wrote:
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's
an i686 CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working.
So I tried both:
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012, RW wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT)
Jason Usher wrote:
I am installing 8.3-RELEASE on an old 900mhz pentium laptop ... it's
an i686 CPU.
By default, GENERIC has HAMMER as the cpu, and that isn't working.
So I tried both:
That's the amd64 (64-bit) GENERIC
Brent Clark brentgclarkl...@gmail.com writes:
A question I would like to ask, if no one minds.
Whys is Gluster not available in FreeBSD?
It is that Gluster just cant run on FreeBSD, or no one can port it?
http://wiki.freebsd.org/GlusterFS
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I am not sure, as long as clients would be treated seriously!
I look at large corporate software vendors and see them treating
customers seriously maybe 2% of the time at best. In this case, most of
I assumed FreeBSD team are OK and would fit in this 2% or even those 0.2%
am i wrong?
I would see a problem with that -- not because I don't think FreeBSD is
worth it. I do, and I think it is worth more than that, in fact. The
true.
biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
the social factors in development of the FreeBSD system that make it
On Friday 22 June 2012 07:04:35 Bernt Hansson wrote:
I want to whish all a very mery Midsummer's Eve and Midsummer's Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer#Sweden
I appreciate the sentiment but it's midwinter here ;)
Jonathan
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself.
If FreeBSD appears
as a subsidiary of some commercial company (say Juniper) i am not sure this
will be good
I think any project that size is actually
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Mark Felder f...@feld.me wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:16:31 -0500, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
This has not been decided in court yet.
In which court not? Of which
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 06:07:49 2012
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:06:12 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kpn...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: Why
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into
commercial system.
REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per server licence.
I would see a problem with that -- not because I
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
We put clang because sponsors wanted it.
Sponsors didn't want clang. Sponsors wanted not to be encumbered by a GPLv3
they are not.
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
You don't know what you don't know, trollboi.
Anything so much as
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 12:37:00 2012
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:30:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why Clang
z woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 12:39:02 2012
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:30:23 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Robison, Dave david.robi...@fisglobal.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why Clang
Because there's
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 12:44:17 2012
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 19:36:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why Clang
sources please!
Google GPLv3
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 12:46:15 2012
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:37:48 -0500
From: Mark Felder f...@feld.me
Cc: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
Subject: Re: Why Clang
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:36:03 -0500, Wojciech
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
I disagree with the assessment by others that FreeBSD is in some way
effectively a subsidiary of its corporate users, but it does have
corporate users, as well as non-corporate users. Just as it must
reasonably see to
Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
being replaced -- among them:
1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,
examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good. Why
are you just saying things you know isn't true?
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Because it doesn't address an of the *OTHER* valid reasons why GCC is
being replaced -- among them:
1) GCC's continuously increasing propensity to generate bad code,
examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good.
Why are you just saying things you
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:25:55 -0500, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
examples? All test shows that gcc code is not only bad, but very good.
Why are you just saying things you know isn't true?
Fast code is not guaranteed to be correct code.
Thomas Mueller wrote:
There actually is/was a closed-source BSD (BSDI), and there is Mac OS X, with
BSD under the covers.
BSDi sold source-code licenses. I was an early-adopter, and I _have_ one.
The vast majority of the code was taken directly from BSD 4.4 Lite, and
the source-code
From woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Fri Jun 22 09:26:33 2012
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:25:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
To: Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Why Clang
Because it doesn't address
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:28:17AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
biggest problem with what you propose, though, is that it would destroy
the social factors in development of the FreeBSD system that make it what
it is, and thus destroy FreeBSD itself, as far as I am concerned.
I am not
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 01:16:09PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:06:12PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
i already proposed (but not publically) to turn FreeBSD into
commercial system.
REALLY i would not see a problem to pay say 100$ per
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:24:57AM -0500, Reid Linnemann wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
I disagree with the assessment by others that FreeBSD is in some way
effectively a subsidiary of its corporate users, but it does have
corporate users, as
Le 21 juin 2012 à 03:52, kpn...@pobox.com a écrit :
All of this may seem stupid to a reasonable person outside of law. I'll agree
that it probably does look stupid. But it is also the reality of the legal
systems we must live with today.
I can only praise kpneal for this very well
And I just want to add I'm a gay Marxist atheist and I represent the
accusations leveled in that other post...we have feelings too!!!
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from Stephen Cook scli...@gmail.com:
No, this is unusual. But also remember that most of these lists are not
just unmoderated but open to posting without subscription. Then it
becomes kind of amazing at how little flaming and trolling there is.
That's not an accident, the admins work hard
for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself. If
FreeBSD appears
as a subsidiary of some commercial company (say Juniper) i am not sure this
will be good
I think any project that size is actually a subsidiary and must be.
I just don't like that it isn't stated
Because of FreeBSD lists being mainly unmoderated and open to posting without
subscription, I notice some outright spams that slip through the list filters.
I believe (could possibly be wrong) that the lists have spam filters in place.
it must have and well done. FreeBSD list is for sure more
Snippet from Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com:
I have some friends that develop software. They had released it under
GNU umbrella. Later on, other folks were taking advantage and not
giving back as the license requires. There was little to no way to
enforce the license, he decided
wrong way to go. I can ask him for these and other reasons at your
request.
Yes, that would be a good idea, not so much for me as for others who want to
better understand the licensing issues of GCC compared to Clang.
i would like to hear this. but only in C compiler context.
i understand
On 6/21/12 1:40 AM, Michel Talon wrote:
Second, FreeBSD is not a commercial company, and while this argument may have a
merit
for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself.
You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and
maintenance staff and the
Second, FreeBSD is not a commercial company, and while this argument may
have a merit
for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD itself.
You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and maintenance
staff and the money to pay for them comes from those
On 6/21/12 10:08 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
Second, FreeBSD is not a commercial company, and while this argument
may have a merit
for commercial sponsors of FreeBSD, it has zero bearing on FreeBSD
itself.
You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and
maintenance staff and
We put clang because sponsors wanted it.
Sponsors didn't want clang. Sponsors wanted not to be encumbered by a GPLv3
they are not.
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
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On 6/21/12 10:16 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
We put clang because sponsors wanted it.
Sponsors didn't want clang. Sponsors wanted not to be encumbered by a
GPLv3
they are not.
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
Programs that link to GPLv3 libraries are encumbered.
On 06/21/2012 10:08, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
You seem to be unaware of what percentage of the development and
maintenance staff and the money to pay for them comes from those
commercial users. If FreeBSD cannot maintain the critical mass to
continue, it will not continue.
but why it isn't
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:16:31 -0500, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
This has not been decided in court yet.
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they are not.
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
Programs that link to GPLv3 libraries are encumbered.
you mean libgcc_s.so.1 and libstdc++?
scanned /bin and /usr/bin and few programs do link it - all are C++
written.
None IMHO are needed in closed-source system
Because there's no reason to do that. It's an asinine suggestion.
Clang is here to stay. Most of us are happy about that decision. GCC
Because most that are not already stopped and ignored thing. and use GCC.
Politics won.
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z woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
This has not been decided in court yet.
sources please!
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:30:40 -0500, Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
z woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
programs compiled by GPLv3 compiler are not encumbered.
This has not been decided in court yet.
sources please!
Google GPLv3 court case. There are no
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