Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:54:13 +0200 Ivan Zenzerovi? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there are 3 ntfs partitions. Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. I'm surprised if there's any problem mounting either msdosfs or ntfs 'drives' in 'extended partitions' nowadays? There certainly wasn't in FreeBSD 4.x, when I managed to get mount_hpfs going to salvage a number of HPFS 'drives', all of which lived in the 'extended partition'. The HPFS code (still in the source tree last I checked, but not compiled by default) was written by Semen Ustimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED], who also wrote the (then) NTFS code; the two shared lots of cut-n-paste. It's true that information on this is a bit sketchy and harder to find, but basically an 'extended partition' (in DOS parlance) uses one of the four slices on a disk, for example let's say ad0s2, and the separate 'drives' that might appear as D:, E:, etc to DOS/'doze would be then accessed as ad0s5, ad0s6 etc. At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Try mount_ntfs using ad1s5, ad1s6 and ad1s7 then, read-only for safety. From a 2004 fstab on one 4.10 system: /dev/ad2s5 /hpfs hpfsro,noauto 0 0 Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there are 3 ntfs partitions. Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
Not that I know of. The extended partitions are implemented as linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions. You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can access. -Derek At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there are 3 ntfs partitions. Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
Could I maybe fix this with trying to make the partitions again or something like this from windows with partition magic? I supose that on the same way freebsd does with it's partitions? Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. The extended partitions are implemented as linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions. You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can access. -Derek At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there are 3 ntfs partitions. Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
You'd have to enlarge the primary partition and move the data from the two extended partitions into that partition. -Derek At 12:27 PM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Could I maybe fix this with trying to make the partitions again or something like this from windows with partition magic? I supose that on the same way freebsd does with it's partitions? Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I know of. The extended partitions are implemented as linked-lists, and not in a partition table as standard partitions are and the mount_ntfs is not written for the extended partitions. You can move things back and forth using the one partition that you can access. -Derek At 11:54 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Ok, I think I understand, but tell me, is there any way I can read those partitions from freebsd? If this helps, on that disk are no windows, there are 3 ntfs partitions. Ivan On 3/30/07, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for their support. -- --- Correr, competir, eu levo isso no sangue, é parte da minha vida. - Ayrton Senna ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NTFS drive/partition
Derek Ragona wrote: You are able to mount the primary partition, not the extended partitions. This is a also a limitation mounting ms-dos fat drives. The extended partitions are done differently and are outside the partition table. -Derek At 07:58 AM 3/30/2007, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Zenzerovi=E6?= wrote: Hi, I'm trying to mount an ntfs drive with mount_ntfs. Now, the system sees the second hard disk, but shows only one partition, ad1s1 wich is NTFS, but on that disk there are 3 ntfs partitions and the system doesn't see them. On windows they work fine. Another thing, after a day or two I tried to boot on windows and the responded that a file is missing and that they can't start. After that I rebooted and the started normaly! Weird. What could it be? Thanks, Ivan -- DOS partitions handled by the Logical Volume Manager are tricky critters to deal with (if that's in fact what you have setup). That's why I suggest that you move back to a 'Basic' configuration -- that way your partitions will be readable using any OS. Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting a drive
rs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone explain exactly what is meant by mounting a disk. I understand that it is making a disk available for use, but would like to understand the implications of the term and what abilities it confers. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mount-unmount.html Part of the purpose of the question is that I am trying to find out how I can have more partitions and detachable drives than there are letters in the alphabet. FreeBSD has no number of letters in the alphabet limitation. Are you aware of the fact that this isn't a Windows specific mailing list? Fabian -- http://www.fabiankeil.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Mounting a drive
Hallo Could someone explain exactly what is meant by mounting a disk. I understand that it is making a disk available for use, but would like to understand the implications of the term and what abilities it confers. Mounting connects the mount point to the device driver. After the mount, references to the mount point, cause it to talk to the device driver. Part of the purpose of the question is that I am trying to find out how I can have more partitions and detachable drives than there are letters in the alphabet. I don't know what you mean by detachable drives - do you mean removable, hot-swap, unmount-able, whatever? Any drive - except root can be unmounted. You can mount only the filesystems you want to use at the time, regardless of how many physical drives are connected to the box. On each disk device whether single drive or raid, you are allowed up to 4 slices (1-4) and within each slice, 8 partitions (a-h). But, partition c is generally reserved. A partition is turned in to a filesystem with the newfs(8) utility. You can have as many drives as your controllers can talk to. Every filesystem refers to a single partition. A partition/filesystem is unseen by the system except for some utilities that talk to devices directly such as fsck(8) or dd(1) unless it is mounted. jerry Best Regards, Richard Shoebridge ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
