Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
And USB 2.0 hard limit is 60MB/s. i have never seen USB 2.0 exceeding 35MB/s write and 40MB/s read. even when connecting SATA disk over USB-SATA bridge. 60MB/s is wire speed. USB have enormous protocol overhead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Jakub Lach
i have never seen USB 2.0 exceeding 35MB/s write and 40MB/s read. That means I essentially got what I wanted- as high read output as possible on USB 2.0. Thanks. Indeed 35MB/s-40MB/s is common reported maximum throughput. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 newfs_msdosfs /dev/da0

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Jakub Lach articulated: What I previously meant is that I had such pendrive, that without former formatting in Windows, didn't even show up as device in FreeBSD- was completely useless. That does not mean I didn't newfs_msdosfsed it after that in

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Jakub Lach
However, after formatting it in Windows why duplicate it again in FreeBSD? Just to check if it works as should, also trim sectors and whatever. Format without partition table? But in this case, no 1 reason was probably most important. -- View this message in context:

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
However, after formatting it in Windows why duplicate it again in FreeBSD? It serves no purpose that I am aware of. By the way, it is too bad that FreeBSD is not able to take advantage of the exFat format fusefs-exfat in ports still i don't really care, i would reformat in as FAT32 anyway.

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Format without partition table? yes. Windows recognizes it properly except Win98/95 (which doesn't work with large USB drives anyway). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
What I previously meant is that I had such pendrive, that without former formatting in Windows, didn't even show up as device in FreeBSD- was completely useless. the result of XXI century way of programming - flash translator firmware in that case. They don't even read specs about USB

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-23 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 23 July 2012 17:48:50 Jerry wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Jakub Lach articulated: What I previously meant is that I had such pendrive, that without former formatting in Windows, didn't even show up as device in FreeBSD- was completely useless. That

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Jakub Lach
This could be deducted, but I will add for clarity, that I bought USB 3.0 pendrive to use in 2.0 port, to take advantage of 2.0 to the fullest (as 2.0 pendrives have slow flashes inside). -- View this message in context:

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
which actually works with FreeBSD just ripped from package! (normal _empty_ FAT filesystem, no garbageware added, no need to format). zero difference. newfs_msdos take a moment. It actually bounces from 40MB/s limit when reading from it. Writing is about 18MB/s. Device is supposed to be

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Jakub Lach
18MB/s write is figure from few dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1 to 15M runs, 13-14MB/s from actual files copied in mc to flash and 36-39MB/s file copied from flash to hdd in mc. dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/zero bs=15m gives 33MB/s read. Speaking of advertisements, yes I know but USB 3.0 drives

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: Hi, I was fortunate enough to buy USB 3.0 pendrive, which actually works with FreeBSD just ripped from package! (normal _empty_ FAT filesystem, no garbageware added, no need to format). It actually bounces from

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Jakub Lach
Speaking of misunderstanding, that's certainly possible. How much overhead is normal and alternatively, why in FreeBSD USB 2.0 reports as 40MB/s and not other arbitrary number. I hope I didn't sound like PLEASE HELP I WANT USB 3.0 SPEEDS ON USB 2.0... -- View this message in context:

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote: Speaking of misunderstanding, that's certainly possible. How much overhead is normal and alternatively, why in FreeBSD USB 2.0 reports as 40MB/s and not other arbitrary number. The overhead includes many different

Re: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers What was rationale behind pegging USB 2.0 at 40MB/s?

2012-07-22 Thread Jakub Lach
Apparently my speeds are pretty decent, as this this advertised speed relates to read speed, and write one is pretty weak. People are reporting 62-70MB/s read and 17-31MB/s write. Are you saying that disk clearly bumping from 40MB/s read barrier (as I saw in midnight commander is my