Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-12-02 Thread anubis
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:31 am, Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom I'm doing this research. This

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-28 Thread Stephen Hilton
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:26:43 -0600 Marc Wiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 10:31:24PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-24 Thread Toomas Aas
Hi! Just for the record I have the kind of setup you're talking about - I successfully 'hot swapped' a 40Gb IDE disk using a hdd caddy tray but there are caveats (mostly highlighted above) - using the term 'hot swap' loosely here because it just doesn't feel too clever doing it :P I found

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-24 Thread Jez Hancock
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 02:26:39PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: Hi! Just for the record I have the kind of setup you're talking about - I successfully 'hot swapped' a 40Gb IDE disk using a hdd caddy tray but there are caveats (mostly highlighted above) - using the term 'hot swap' loosely

RE: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-24 Thread Brent Wiese
Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom I'm doing this research. This leaves one option I can think of - standard

RE: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-24 Thread Brent Wiese
Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom I'm doing this research. This leaves one option I can think of -

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-24 Thread Scott W
Brent Wiese wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom I'm doing this research. This leaves one option I

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-23 Thread Toomas Aas
Hello! I wrote: If the majority is right and IDE drives cannot be hot swapped, this would indicate that we would need to power down the machine every time we want to change the backup HDs. This would be less than perfect, but since we are cheap we could live with it. OTOH I read 'man

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-23 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 01:16:50PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: 1. The 'generic' removeable drive trays for IDE that use a normal IDE controller (like attaching to the slave or secondary channel on most onboard IDE), with another disk or device attached that's being used, do not support

Re: (Semi)hot swap IDE

2003-11-22 Thread Scott W
Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine. Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom I'm doing this research. This leaves one option I can think of -